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12/12/17 11:38 AM #2382    

 

Mark Schweickart

Jack-- See, I told that story was post-worthy! Great description building to the surprise happy ending.

By the way, being the forgetful person I am these days, the morale of your story --"Hey, old guy, get off of that roof!"-- faded from my consciousness by the next day, and there I was up on the roof hanging Christmas lights. I am happy to report that other than a nasty scratch across my face administered by a large unwelcoming bougainvillea bush, I managed without incident.

Merry Christmas All.

 


12/12/17 02:14 PM #2383    

 

David Mitchell

ATTENTION EVERYONE!  (especially all you stubborn 69 year-old know-it-all's)

GET DOWN OFF THOSE ROOVES (and tall ladders) IMMEDIATELY!

DON'T MAKE ME COME OUT THERE!


12/12/17 02:21 PM #2384    

 

Michael Boulware

Mary Claire had an excellent luncheon with Joe McCarthy footing the bill.Thanks Claire and Joe!  It was a great time. Mike Boulware

 


12/12/17 02:27 PM #2385    

 

Michael Boulware

Jocko, We've known each other for a long time. Both of us have to admit;if you would have fallen on your head- nothing would have been hurt. Bull


12/12/17 06:39 PM #2386    

 

Alan Standish

Jocko- great story and very glad there was a good ending to it!


12/12/17 11:16 PM #2387    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

We also had a surprise visit from Santa! 

I posted a new photo album from the luncheon under class photos. Nina put together this cute collage! 

 

 


12/13/17 05:52 AM #2388    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

Ok. It's official.  Feeling jealous all the way over here!  What fun!


12/13/17 08:01 AM #2389    

Joseph Gentilini

Boy, I sure wish I could have been at the party!


12/13/17 10:27 AM #2390    

 

Sheila McCarthy (Gardner)

What a splendid afternoon! So sorry to have missed it. Best Christmas blessings to all of you!


12/13/17 01:46 PM #2391    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

I hope you all will take a look at our newest class photo album with pics from yesterday’s Christmas lunch at Clare’s! Click on top tab on the left.

Here is a video of the group thanking Joe McCarthy who was in California but has been instrumental in lighting a fire (bad choice of words maybe) under us to have more frequent class get togethers than every five years! 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrbrIQ3UVdg


12/13/17 06:56 PM #2392    

 

Nina Osborn (Rossi)

So glad I was able to go to the great luncheon at Clare’s!🎄🎄. It was a good time and enjoyed by all. Thanks to Joe for footing the bill. 🤑Very nice of you Joe. 🎄Thanks to Janie for getting the plans in motion and to Clare for opening up her lovely home to all of us!!  The Christmas dishes on 3 tables, homemade cookies by Janie and 3 homemade pies by Clare!!!  Food from DiVinci’s was delicious. >/p>

May everyone have a meaningful Christmas.  It is not easy for some in our class that have suffered the loss of a loved one, ill health or other changes that are so difficult.  But we are a strong group.  As Tiny Tim said, “God bless us everyone!”

Keep the forum going!  Always a good read  

 


12/14/17 10:12 AM #2393    

 

Kathleen Wintering (Nagy)

So sorry to not be able to make this luncheon! Thanks to all who helped and paid and organized! Kathy Wintering


12/15/17 04:54 PM #2394    

Timothy Lavelle

Hey,

Gotta spare Christmas card? Remember one of our very good friends....

Tom Litzinger

Abbington of Arlington

Old Henderson Rd.

Columbus, A-hy-a 43220


12/15/17 06:51 PM #2395    

 

David Mitchell

 

Tim.

Great idea. But I didn't think there was an "o" in  Clumbus ?  

 

(and it's 1320 Old Henerson Road   -  43220)

 


12/15/17 08:04 PM #2396    

 

David Mitchell

 

Been thinking about Mike and Mary Margaret's post last week about the Pope's conversation with the press about the French  bishop's change in the wording of the Lord's Prayer. I really thought MM's addition of the Catholic Register article was terriffic, and helpful in understanding that whole matter.

But it came within a day of another disccussion I was in about another use of words and their effect on Catholic/Christian history. It was about the replacement of the old Greek word for Church - Ekklesia (english spelling of a greek word) in the early scripture translations. In the middle ages Christian leaders replaced that word with a germanic term which was close to Kirche. This has enormous and history altering effect on the phrase, "Thou art Peter, and upon this Rock, I will build my Church".

The original Greek word for church was Ekklesia, which means (my) following, (my) gathering, those (I have) called out. But when Church fathers in the middle ages changed it, it was a turning back to the ancient Hebrew concept, or even before them - the notion of a specific special place - what is sometimes called "Temple Mentality" - the idea that there had to be a specail place (building), and special people (high priests - later priests and bishops, etc.). This came about to continue the sort of (my words) stronghold the clergy had on the population. That gets back to my earlier point about what my (devout Catholic ) father's expression meant - "Vatican Control Syndrome" (that Rome was more concerend about rules and control, than about the "promises"). This grew more prevalent over time as Rome needed to consolidate it's power in the face of the threat from the onrushing hoards of Goths, Visgoths, Huns, etc. It eventually became the normal M.O. in order to insure control over the masses. For example, the period of Tetzel, "selling" indulgences to the poor, frightened, (and uneducated) Germanic population to "buy" their ancestors way out of Purgatory (the collected funds were I beleive used to build St. Petr's Basilica in Rome).   

The idea became such a sticking point that when Tyndale dared publish his first English language (mass distribution) Bible in early 1500's, he was strangled to death and burned at the stake for his "crime" (against the "state" so to speak). Even Thomas More was critical of him. For the church to allow the common man to read the Scriptures himself - and find out that he himself had direct access to God, was a serious threat to the hierarchy. 

I could developed this further but for the sake of brevity (Dave - brevity?  You're kidding). It means that Christ never intended for the Popes to be of such singular power and that there was no intention of great "sacred basilicas", nor all the gaudy timmings and trappings that have grown around it. This kind of worldly temporal power I believe is one of the great mistakes of all Christianity - that our faith is not rooted in earthly power and diplayed granduer,  but in the hearts and minds and souls of those who wish to follow "the One who came not to be served, but to serve".  In the words of one well-known pastor, WE ARE SCARING THE KIDS (away)!

So I am arguing that all the concern over Rome and the Popes and their contol is NOT how Christ intended it to be. 

Please don't any of my loyal Catholic friends take offense. I am NOT trying to criticise you. I just disagree with much of what is "Romanized", "Institutionalized", etc. I thought this point might be interesting at this time after that article about the Lord's prayer. 

And I might as well confess - I do not beleive in Purgatory. Don't think I have since about 5th grade.     And I might also admit, I can't spell.  (sorry Nina)

 


12/15/17 08:38 PM #2397    

 

David Mitchell

And one more really, really, really important point.

Damn, "Five Guys" is expensive for that little hamburger!


12/16/17 11:43 AM #2398    

 

Alan Standish

Dave- you truly missed your vocation in life!  You would have made a great Jesuit scholar/priest!!


12/16/17 04:10 PM #2399    

 

Michael McLeod

Glad you found it interesting Dave.

I love this pope.

I love him for catching a mistake somebody should have notice long ago.

Generations of Catholics have said that prayer without stopping to notice that, as written, it essentially implied that their God would be sneaky enough to lead them into temptation. Kind of like divine entrapment.

Kept waiting for somebody to applaud him for that.

 

 

 


12/16/17 04:38 PM #2400    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

I like him too. I love the way he shoots from the hip and keeps everybody a little off guard. That particular point is quite interesting - and I don't think I ever thought about it before. 

 

And Al,

My mother always used to tell me when I was a kid that I would make a good lawyer or a Welshman, because I loved to argue so much. Mom's grandmother was Welsh. I'd walk a mile for a good political, religious, or NFL football argument.


12/17/17 12:46 PM #2401    

 

David Mitchell

Just saw a wonderful bumper sticker on the back of a car at a stop light.

"SORRY IM DRIVING

  SOOOOO CLOSE

 IN FRONT OF YOU"


12/17/17 08:09 PM #2402    

 

Linda Weiner (Bennett)

Translations are full of "mistakes," misconceptions, whatever you want to call them. Some notions cannot be exactly translated at all. The Virgin Mary, having born only one child, we ask how Jesus having brothers (siblings) cannot be exactly explained.  Since there is no word equivalent in the language of that time, brothers includes cousins and very close friends. If we dwell too much on such matters, we miss the point.

Here's one that popped into my head about 10 years ago regarding  the Creed. We say, "He rose AGAIN on the third day..." Did He? How many times did Christ rise? Has anyone else noticed this?


12/18/17 09:53 AM #2403    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

As the day that the world celebrates the birth of the Savior approaches, I thought I would share, especially for my former IC classmates, the candlelit Advent service and Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament which was held the first week of Advent.  Light is used throughout Scriptures to symbolize God, faith or holiness. 

When Jesus spoke again to the people he said, "I am the Light of the world.  Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the Light of life."  John 8:12




12/18/17 10:10 PM #2404    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Speaking of typo's.  Let me tell you about how a friend's typo ruined his life.

My friend's one simple spelling mistake, even a typo, can make anyones life hell

He recently texted a short, romantic note to his wife while away on a fishing trip, AND he missed one small "e".

No problem you might say, Not so.  This tiny error has caused him to seek Police protection to enter his own house.

He wrote  "Hi darling, I'm enjoying and experiencing the best time of my whole life, and I wish you were her!"


12/18/17 11:51 PM #2405    

 

David Mitchell

Oh Joe!  

Have you no shame?


12/19/17 12:50 PM #2406    

 

Michael McLeod

Hey Linda:

Glad there is another word nerd around here who wonders about such things.

The inconsistencies fascinate me but can't always be reasoned out or solved.

I've learned to enjoy certain mysteries.

There is certainly no shortage of them in this life.

.


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