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11/08/25 04:21 PM #16508    

 

John Jackson

Monica,  I should be able to make this one, but I don't think I can be of much help in planning.


11/08/25 04:36 PM #16509    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

Monica, don´t order a coffee for me, please.  I wish I could join you for the meeting and for the reunion but I probably won´t be able to make it to either. heart

 

David, a very cool Flash Mob. Thanks for sharing.


11/09/25 10:12 AM #16510    

 

Michael McLeod

Monica: I don't think John can be of much help for anything.


11/09/25 01:40 PM #16511    

 

John Maxwell

Jim,
A little tid bit. A group of turkeys is called a rafter.

11/09/25 02:27 PM #16512    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Jack,

Thanks Jack, I had forgotten that term although I think I had looked it up for a previous entry on this Forum. I'll blame my error on a memory lapse πŸ€”!

Jim

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11/09/25 04:54 PM #16513    

 

Michael Boulware

Kevin Cull is going to join us. Monica, thanks for checking things out. We sure have a great goup of 66rs gathering and I am looking forward to seeing everyone. 


11/10/25 11:43 AM #16514    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Mike B.  In spite of that Illustrious avaitor requesting a September date for the gathering, I am asking for August.  At the present time I plan on my usual cross country drive, to Ohio, to start in late July and the retun to the West coast to begin in the first days of September, before the snow flies in Nebraska, Wyoming, Utah and Nevada.  Just a thought.


11/10/25 11:57 AM #16515    

 

David Mitchell

Mike B. (and Joe),

Let  it be known that "illustious aviators" could also do August. I was just thinking of the cost for travelers who might be flying in from afar. 


11/10/25 02:35 PM #16516    

 

Sheila McCarthy (Gardner)

Mike B. and friends: Thank you all for taking this on. Any reunion time is fine with me. Sorry I can't be there to help with planning, but I am happy to volunteer for the cleanup committee with Jeanine!  And I can attest to Monica's superb Uber skills... 


11/10/25 04:35 PM #16517    

 

John Jackson

And now for something completely different, compliments of The Onion:

Hungover Egyptologist Just Gonna Call In Cursed Today

CAIRO—Admitting he was unable to face a lengthy session of indexing artifacts after drinking too much the night before, hungover Egyptologist Henry Chapman confirmed Tuesday he was just gonna call in cursed this morning. “Listen, I don’t know what kind of hex was on that canopic jar I opened yesterday, but I’ve got a real doozy of a curse, and it’s probably best I stay home today,” the bleary-eyed Egyptologist said in a phone call to his supervisor, adding that he had heard the divine wrath of the pharaoh Amenhotep III was going around lately.

“Whatever I’ve got is giving me bad luck, beetles, pestilence, the works. I wish I could be down there at the tomb with you cataloging all those funerary goods we found, but frankly I’m worried about spreading the curse to everybody else. I’d feel terrible if I ended up giving you guys the plague of scorpions I’m dealing with right now. I don’t wanna get too graphic, but let’s just say I’m finding cobras in a lot of places you don’t want cobras.

With any luck, it’s just a 24-hour curse, and I can get back to translating the rest of those hieroglyphics with you tomorrow.” According to sources, Chapman began to suspect he really was cursed after the greasy breakfast sandwich and coconut water he ordered to soothe his hangover were carried off from his kitchen counter by a jackal. 


11/11/25 12:03 AM #16518    

 

Michael Boulware

Mary Margaret  sent a video of # 72 intercepting a pass against Granville. The great play was made by Max Theado. He usually plays offensive guard but sometimes plays on the defensive line as well. He is a solid player and Tom Litzinger's grandson. Last year,, it was Max's brother , Dominic, who played a huge role in Watterson's way  to a state chamionship. Looks like it's Max's turn. I guess that is Tom's way of staying with us.

Max and Dominic's Grandma is Mary. Mary's husaband is Steve Smith and they are two of our best friends. Sue and I had dinner with them last night and they informed us about Max's great play. Dominic is playing basketball for Otterbein and seeing action as a freshman.

On the sideline for Granville was a young freshman safety who did not get in the game for Granville. That safety's  Dad happens to be my son Todd. Cole Boulware is a great young man with a bright future.


11/11/25 09:25 AM #16519    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

With a grateful heart to all our veterans in this day. β€οΈπŸ€πŸ’™πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ<>> https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16ZxtK16HT/?mibextid=wwXIfr


11/11/25 10:34 AM #16520    

 

Harold Clark

mike mc-----i swapped my bike for a recumbent trike-----i love it

 


11/11/25 02:56 PM #16521    

 

Michael McLeod

I'd be interested in hearing from other vets today - just a quickie rundown of where you served.

I was drafted and wound up as a spec 5 clerk typist stationed at a nato headdquarters complex in Seckenheim Germany, more or less a typist/errand boy carrying documents around to various buildings in the complex, each one of a different nationality-french, german,italian, canadian, u s. Learned enough German to get by; (I'm German on my mother's side - her father, Ernest Victor Reutinger, was a doctor with an office adjacent to his home on east main street. You'd walk through double doors in their living room and bam, you were in an examining room.

I was newly married and My wife and I lived in the basement apartment of a German family -- frau and herr Baron and their kids. We had a child, our daughter Michelle, by the time we came home after my two year tour of duty. Learned enough German to get by. Ate a lot of great food and consumed a lot of good beer and visited a few cool castles including one in nearby Heidelberg.

Had been promoted to spec 5 rank by the time I got out. It was quite the adventure. I felt lucky as hell for not being sent to 'nam. When I got back home I earned a masters in journalism from osu, paid for largely by the gi bill, and that set me up in a great career, mainly at the Cincinnat Enquirer and the Orlando Sentinel.

I was damn lucky. 

Been yapping a lot lately; sorry about that. I've only recently given up part time teaching and writing and i'm now fully retired.

Anyway I would love to hear from other vets -- most of whom, I bet, had a hell of a lot tougher time than I did. I salute you. I salute every one of you. 

 


11/11/25 06:23 PM #16522    

 

David Mitchell

I got to visit with our church's third graders today and shared some thoughts with two other guys -then busy the rest of the day.

I would like to honor one particular veteran who meant a grret deal to me but the various parts of the story will be a bit long, so I will break it up in parts.

 

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10 - RIP GOES DOWN and I GO OFF !   

-      My Wakeup Call

Sorry this is a bit long. It's mostly background for the last two parts of this story.   

 

               After my crazy vomit-filled start, Captain Joiner did move me into the right seat. There I would fly for one full week with one of my other fellow Scout platoon pilots in my left seat as my “Observer”, to further coach me up on how to fly as a “Wing” man behind one of our “Lead” pilots. This was normal for all new Scout pilots. Fortunately, none of them had my weak stomach and we got through that week without any complications. I told the guys in my platoon that Captain Joiner had said I was such quick study that didn’t need a full week in the left seat.     Yeah, right?

 

             After that next week I had now become a “Wing Man”, flying my own ship about thirty or forty yards behind the “Lead” with my own Observer in my left seat. Our Observers were enlisted men (usually a “Spec 4”, “Spec 5”,  about our age). We would follow the “Lead” ship loosely wherever he went, with the idea being that we were flying to be his “cover”, if, and when he came under fire. We were also searching beneath ourselves, so my observer was sort of leaning out his left door searching the ground beneath us, just as the Lead Observer did. 

            The Observer held a (fully automatic) C.A.R.-15in his lap, gripping it ready to fire. He also had four types of grenades in canvas bags at his feet or strung along side of his seat or the door opening. He could toss out a colored smoke to mark a spot for our Cobras to see from high above, or a choice of Concussion, Gas, or White Phosphorus (which would burn anything, including under water) - all of these were the various grenades we carried on board.

            As the lead flew relatively straight, I simply stayed behind him. If he began weaving back and forth, I swung in and out behind him like the wagging tail of a dog. But if he slowed down or stopped, I would pass him and swing into a circle around him. Never would both of us come to a hover (full stop) at the same time - never. But sometimes the Lead would come to a full stop - hovering over a potential target to get a better look - at eight to ten feet in open rice paddy terrain - higher if we were over trees. You might think this was not the smartest tactical maneuver, but we did it all the time. Remember, we we’re 20 and 22. We were invincible.                                                                                                 

                Very shortly after I joined the regular rotation of daily pilot’s assignments, in our eight man “Scout” platoon, Captain Joiner left for the states as his 12-month tour had ended. He was succeeded as platoon leader by another of our guys, (just turned Captain) Rip Ashe, a quiet guy who tended to keep to himself. Rip was likable enough, but just not anyone’s “buddy”. He was a “by the book” kind of guy. I had begun to fly Captain Ashe’s wing on a somewhat regular basis, and I felt I was learning and improving. We did our searches, sort of like two bees dancing around each other along a garden hedgerow in a comfortable pattern of weaving and circling.

           I think it had flown for about a month or so when our assignment sent us to a relatively new location for me - a place called Vi Thanh (“vee-tawn”), well south of our home base at Vinh Long. Vi-Thanh had a graded, fixed-wing runway, and of course, refueling capacity. The terrain we searched from Vi Thanh was always to the west of that airstrip, which meant we were nearing proximity to the infamous “U-Minh” Forest. The “U-Minh” was a section about 60 or 80 miles north to south, by maybe four to six miles wide (just guessing). It was a vast area of dense, heavy jungle, unlike all the rest of the southern part of Vietnam which was mostly wide-open rice paddy terrain. And because of that thick cover, the “U-Minh” was heavily infested with VC and large units of “NVA Regulars” (North Vietnamese Army) - these were the guys with khaki uniforms and those funny pith helmets - heavily armed, and a long way from their home in North Vietnam.

         The day was clear, and we were having an uneventful ride - Captain Rip in the Lead, with me flying his Wing. We were above small trees, so we were at about thirty feet altitude when suddenly Rip’s voice burst out over the radio -“Receiving fire! Receiving fire!”, One-Six is receiving fire!”. I actually saw two tiny pieces of shreds of his aircraft skin (and I would swear, two bullets) flying up from the top of his ship. And I heard the unmistakable sound of an AK-47 (a distinctly “cracking” sound - as opposed to the “popping” sound of our own M-16s or CAR-15’s.). I think Rip had taken several hits in his transmission or his main rotor head and he was yelling over the radio “May Day. May Day. One-Six is going down. On-Six is going down!

          My reaction was to panic! I was completely caught off guard and terrified. It took me a moment to get control of myself and think of what I should do. I circled back to fire my mini gun into the trees where I thought they were hiding but my gun would not fire (with no trace of vomit this time). I was so frightened and confused I didn’t really know what to do!  All I could think of was to keep circling above those trees to draw fire away from Rip and his observer where they went down. But I was still struggling to breathe. My heart rate must have gone through the roof.                                                                                                           

         In less than a minute, our C&C (Command & Control) ship came down (from his 500 feet), hovered close to where Rip and his Observer were getting out of their downed ship, and held at a still hover while they climbed on board. Rip had made a rather soft landing in the nearest rice paddy, so the impact caused no injuries or additional aircraft damage. And neither of them was hit. We all flew back to Vi-Thanh airstrip to recover and refuel. I tried to think of something to say to Rip about losing my wits and not picking him up. I felt guilty. But he brushed it off and said it was okay - and that it was the C&Cs job to get them out. Still, I felt quite embarrassed. You train, and train, and then train some more, but when the stuff hits the fan for the first time, you’re still not ready for it.

TBC           

 


11/11/25 06:28 PM #16523    

 

David Mitchell

 

RIP GOES DOWN I GO OFF   Continued

 

Something else came out of that incident that was a learning experience for me. (And years later, still a sweet, funny memory). It came from an interesting source, my Observer, Clint Hunt,  (who would become my favorite and most frequent Observer over time). Clint was a good ole boy from some “holler” back in “Kintucky”, and “he had him a accint you cud cut with a knaafe”. He was not well educated, but he was smart and very dependable. I outranked him of course, so he should not have yelled at me, but he really got on me after this incident. 

 

           He came at me and with a very agitated tone of voice he said, “Meester Mitchell, yur a flyin’ too close. Yur a flyin’ too close to that there lead ship. Ya gotta hang back further so’s you can fire underneath him when he’s a gittin’ shot at”. Ya jiss gotta hang back a bit further. Ya hear me?” 

 

           Clint was absolutely correct! And actually correct in this situation to yell at me about it. I needed to be told in no uncertain way, despite his lower rank.

 

                                                                         *                                             

           Rip Ashe was eventually shot down two more times in his 12-month tour of duty. I cannot remember the details of one of those since I was not flying with him on those other days. One of them I will save for later. It was re-told by one of us at a reunion we held years later and makes for a great story. 

But we had heard that he returned to Vietnam later for a second full “tour” after having gone through “Cobra” (gunship) flight training. He had come back to a different unit in a different roll - a gunship pilot. 

Sadly, I read somewhere that he was killed in a commercial airline crash years later. 

No fair God!

 

TBC - - I will skip ahead to a later chapter.

 


11/11/25 06:40 PM #16524    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks Dave for another slice of what it was like to REALLY being in the service, as you and my dad were (he was in Okinawa during ww2). I did my time in the service but had it cushy by comparison. (LOVE THE PHOTO ABOVE)

 

 

 


11/11/25 06:40 PM #16525    

 

David Mitchell

19 - TEACHING OUR OBSERVERS TO FLY

                                                - A Life Insurance Policy

Flying the Loach came with a unique risk that Huey and Cobra pilots didn't experience. They all flew with two pilots - an Aircraft Commander (A/C) and a Co-pilot. Both could (and did) fly the aircraft as needed - sometimes just trading off with one another to relax. But in the Loaches, we had only one trained pilot. The Observers in our left seat were infantrymen with no flight training. I'm sure that was because of the increased risks we took in the low-flying Loaches. Risking two pilots in one of our Loaches was not sensible. There had been a couple incidences where the Loach Pilots had been shot and wounded so badly, they could not fly the ship. But they had taught their Observers to at least get the ship safely on the ground. That saved a few lives.

The need to teach them some bare minimum flying skill was shared by all of us, and I decided to teach my regular (and favorite) Observer, Clint Hunt, how to land the ship. I knew that a little bit of level flight was helpful, but landing was the critical need. So, I started letting him get on the controls with me as we entered short final for the landing strip at Vinh Long each day when we were coming home. We'd get into the traffic pattern on final approach, and I'd tell him to "get on" the controls with me (on his side) as we came in for a landing. 

We probably went through this maybe a dozen or more times and each time I let him have just a wee bit more control so he could feel it more and more himself. I gradually let him have the cyclic 'stick' - (lateral direction) more and more, and I would tell him "I'm gonna let go - you 've got the stick". Then, after he took it in hand, I would hold my right hand up so he could see I had let go. Then I would let him have the 'collective' (power – climb and descent) and the same sequence - "I'm letting go. You’ve got it" - as I held my left hand up for him to see. And finally, the foot pedals (maybe hardest of all). And I would  raise my knees up for him to see that he had the pedals himself. As we progressed (maybe several weeks) and I could tell he was getting it, I pondered letting him go all the way - at least the last quarter mile or so - to the ground.

The day came for me to let him do it all and I was keyed up and excited for him. As we turned on to "short final" I said something like, "Okay, I'm gonna let you take us all the way down today." He responded, "d'ya really think I can do er". I said "I know you can. You ready?"

He said "Yup. I got 'er", and I let go of everything - holding both hands and knees up for him to see. Clint made a pretty good (if slightly wobbly) approach and took us all the way down to the refueling helipad. At the very bottom he was teetering on all four corners of the skids, sort of bouncing from corner to corner about four inches above the ground. I grabbed my intercom button and yelled "PUT IT DOWN!" Clint shoved the collective down hard and we dropped with a slight thud.

I exclaimmed, "You did it man!" And Clint goes, "Wow, that was jiss like down-town!"

I couldn't help but let out a good laugh.

I was so proud of him!

                                 Clint and I with my usual ship (#322) - with the mini-gun hanging from left side.

 


11/11/25 06:57 PM #16526    

 

David Mitchell

This relationsip was more important than either of us would even fully appreciate at the time, but it was critical to our own safety. And is just felt right. I would keep him in a special place in my memory for years to come. 

                                                        *

I had lost contact with Clint for about 50 years. Then I met a guy at one of my Marked Men for Christ retreats who searches people’s backgrounds for some big employment agency.     He found me an address and phone number and I called Clint. We met at his small farm in Kentucky - just his wife and I for about five wonderful hours. It was as if we hadn't missed a day. And his accent was even stronger thatn I remebered it!

Months later I received a few texts from his phone. When I was able to call back, I got his son-in-law on Clint's phone, informing me that Clint had been stomped to death by the bull in his small herd of cattle! 

I was devastated!

I was able to drive up to his funeral in Kentucky. Clint was one of those guys who came home and never shared a word about what he had experienced in Viet Nam. At the funeral, his family asked me to share some of our experience together. I explained a few details about our strange mission, and Clint’s bravery, and how close we had become. Among the memories, I included that story about teaching him to land. 

At one point, I struggled to hold back the tears.

There were days when Clint's upbeat attitude was my strength. He was a blessing in my cockpit for most of that first year.

             Today I want to honor him. May he rest in peace.

             He was simply the best.


11/11/25 07:54 PM #16527    

 

David Mitchell

SORRY TO HOG THE FORUM.

I JUST THOUGHT THOSE 4 SECTIONS NEEDED TO GO TOGETHER


11/12/25 07:59 AM #16528    

 

Mary Freeman (DiNovo)

Gus and I are unable to come to First Watch Thursday. Please put our names on the planning committee. We will definitely help. 


11/12/25 01:51 PM #16529    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

I watched this video today and wondered what are the thoughts of readers on this forum.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2272455843177198 


11/12/25 05:10 PM #16530    

 

Michael McLeod

it's a beautiful video mm. Human life is sacred. Our lives are miracles to be treasured and protected from beginning to end -- although, given the physiological and circumstantial variables we're born into, it's often a helluva lot easier to say that than to practice it.

 


11/12/25 07:36 PM #16531    

 

David Mitchell

I also thougth the video was very accurate and well done. If you question my familiy's life long opposition to abortion vs. my vote for Joe, it simply came down to a vote that was more against a whore-mongering, draft-dodging, dishonest scammer than a vote for Joe.  

A very tough choice for me.


11/13/25 08:54 AM #16532    

 

Michael McLeod

I'm a grown-ass man but I'm scared to shop for curtains.


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