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10/23/16 09:32 PM #197    

 

Fred Clem

I believe Yolanda actually worked at Timken Roller Bearing (also in Milo-Grogan) and just helped out at the restaurant.


10/23/16 10:09 PM #198    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dan,

Wow, lots of celebrities passed through the Worthington/Colonial Hills/St. Michael's area back in the day. Interesting about Bob Newhart as his show, where he played a psychologist, was supposed to take place in Chicago.

I was not in the Glee Club (which was good for the Glee Club) but I was the "emcee" for the club's Christmas Concert when we were seniors in 1965. I am unsure who the sister in charge was but Sr. Michelle comes to mind.

10/23/16 10:17 PM #199    

 

David Mitchell

Dan, great to hear from you. I don't think we've seen each other since you and Stan Kronenburger walked in on me at the University of Denver business library.  I just remember looking up from a study table and you guys are walking toward me - totally out of the blue! I don't even recall what brought you two to Denver. That must be about 40 years ago.

- -  (Yes,if you're counting, I was late getting through college - I was on my Rich Uncle Sam's 8 year plan, including an all-expense paid "sabatical" along the beautiful Mekong River. You should'a been there - the local  flora and fauna were uh ,,,, remarkable !) 

Tim, I have just been thinking about Mike Haggerty since the reunion. He was another of my OLP buddies. I remember your band but who was the third guy? Mike transferred to Whetstone starting Junior year but we would still see them (his Mom mostly) at Mass on Sunday at OLP. Then years later, when Mary and I moved the kids back from Denver to Columbus (after about 20 years), we were back at Mass at OLP one of our first Sundays and I kept thinking this guy in front of us looks familiar. He turns around to give me the hand of peace and it's Mike!  We both burst out laughing right there. He married a real cutie and had a couple kids. We saw each other a few times but it never went anywhere. I seem to recall he had a part time real job while he was still teaching guitar and playing a few semi-pro gigs around town.

Any trace of Mike Yarborough? My dad and I went skiing in Austria before I left for the Army (one of Dad's bucket list thing), and we stopped in Innsbruck and took Mike to dinner. I might have seen him one time in his law office downtown, but that's about it. I don't recall him ever attending a single reunion. 

And does anybody know what's up with Mike Del Bianco? He made a few reunions but none lately. Another of my old OLP cronies. 


10/24/16 03:05 AM #200    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

Just a quick note as I run out the door to work this Monday morning (6 hours ahead of you).  Not that I was ever in the Glee Club but I think Sr Antonia (John McGovern's older sister) was the music director. 

Keep the memories coming!

 

 


10/24/16 10:04 AM #201    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dan and Donna: Donna is correct, it was Sr. Antonio who directed the glee club.

John McGovern attended IC grade school but went out of state to (as I recall) a Catholic boarding high school. Donna, correct me if that is wrong.

 


10/24/16 10:51 AM #202    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

  I was thinking maybe St Charles but I am not sure where John McGovern went to highschool.  Anyone from IC remember?


10/24/16 11:44 AM #203    

 

David Mitchell

Dan and Stan, I can't beleive I didn't know that about you and D.U. Why didn't we get together? What was I thinkin'? Maybe it's because I had a full time job outside of school working for some real estate appraisers and babies kept arriving at our house. I feel pretty embarrassed.


10/24/16 11:48 AM #204    

 

David Mitchell

Was that "glee club" kind of  small group of about 12 guys in senior year? I think I was in that with Brad Nielson, John Favret, Mike Yarborough, and others. Sister Anotnia is a name I had forgotten, but that stirred my memory of the glee club. She was a sweetheart. 

And din't she teach junior year Spanish? Or was that Sister Miguel?


10/24/16 12:23 PM #205    

 

David Mitchell

I think we are far enough into this discussion for me to bring up something personal that has bothered me for years. I have struggled all my life with this and have sought out many expert sources to find the answers (Bazooka Gum wrappers - Match.com - my VA counselor - and yes, even Dr. Phil). But perhaps some one of this sage and trusted group, this august body of illuminati could offer some guidance.  

Can someone please tell me; 

Who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?  

And who was it that put the ram in the rama lama ding dong? 

Who put the bop in the bop shoo bop shoo bop?

Could it have pssibly been the same genius who put the dip in the dip da dip da dip?

I'd really like to shake his hand, cause he made my baby fall in love with me.


10/24/16 01:09 PM #206    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Dan, I totally forgot about Neil Looker. And do you remember the Weisenbergers, although they moved before high school. Jim Welch, yes I remember that but they moved up by Flint Rd. I think.  Yes Winchesters lived on Colonial right by Hemmelgarns. Favrets lived in Riverlea and the Ridolfos and Karen Schirtzinger lived in what was similar to Colonial Hills but on the west side of High called Sharon Springs maybe. And then there was that section south of us with Stanton, Charleston and Kanawha with Mark Schweickart, Danny Cody, Mike Yarborough and on Kanawha west of High Kenny Seminsky. He started with us at  Watterson and worked at the very cool new 15¢ hamburger joint, McDonald's! Do you remember Susie Willey? They lived at the east end of Kanawha but moved to Chatanooga TN before high school. I loved their house and yard! And Holly Hillon also lived on Kanawha. Cute red head. They moved over by Highland Dr and she went to Whetstone but came to our 25th reunion. We had a great neighborhood where you could walk to everyhing as did most of the various parish neighborhoods.

Dave, I also remember the Bob Newhart rumor but I think the story Dan told is correct, a relative but not him. 

 

 

 

 

 


10/24/16 01:21 PM #207    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

More of Memory Lane.

Does anyone remember going to see the "Kenley" Player's at Vet's Memorial during the Summers?

How about dining at Green Meadows on the Southeast corner of High Strret and Powell?  The sIte was later sold to Nationwide Insurance for a Training Center.

Did anyone attend the shows put on at the Green Meadows "Playhouse around the time Kenley Players folded?


10/24/16 03:22 PM #208    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Joe: I remember the Kenley Players well and went to several of their shows.

Dan and Janie: Another Kanawha Road resident was Chuck Coughlan. Although I was not a St. Mike's kid I hung out with a group of them in high school. We played a lot of basketball at Steve Hemmelgarn's ("Ma-Ha" was my best man at our wedding in '74) and spent some memorable time at the Frederick's home. Some great memories were at the Coughlan's "farm" in Delaware county where we sledded in the winter, occasionally got chased by cows and went fishing in Alum Creek. Today that tract of land is at the bottom of Alum Creek Dam. I recall Chuck and I were once walking across some knee high brush somewhere near that farm when we discovered an old Civil War cemetery. Lots of those Ohio Regiment soldiers had died of "the consumption" (TB) according to their headstones. Years later I wondered if that graveyard was moved before the area was flooded by the dam.

 


10/24/16 07:20 PM #209    

 

David Mitchell

Dan,

If the Jimmy Welch you mentioned had a brother Tom (older, I think), then I know that brother Tom. He lives here in Bluffton and did all the roofing for the house construction projects I worked in for my friend's company when I came down here. Tom Welch and I discovered our common roots and once he got started, you couldn't get him to shut up about all his memories of Worthington, St. Michael's, Colonial Hills and family names that we both knew from Watterson and the north end.  

My parents used to always get season tickets to the Kenley Players. And who could forget that pretty Green Gables setting with the big pond between the building and High Street - or "23" as we all called it up in that area. I kind of thought the big Nationwide sign sort of wrecked it.

What ever happened to Kenny Seminski? He was a good buddy for those first two years until he transferred to --- where?

And as for that glee club, it only lasted for a part of one year - and yes, it was a very odd mix of guys - maybe throw in Tom McKeon and Steve Hodges (not sure?) We only sang for the school masses a few times and maybe one special Chritmas event.


10/24/16 07:39 PM #210    

 

Mark Schweickart

Janie,

I only lived near the Cody, Yarbrough, Coughlan group after sophomore year. Prior to that I lived in the center of Old Worthington on Morning street just north of Granville road. (The Wilchecks and Slivinsky’s were also in this area). However, until third grade before we moved to Morning street, I did, as you say, live near Kenny Seminsky when we lived west of High on Rosslyn St. He lived on Kanawha, one street over. I reconnected with him after I moved to LA in the 70’s. He was in San Francisco. I never got around to actually visiting him until sometime in the early 90’s. At that time he was doing quite well for himself, as a housing contractor -- buying, fixing up, and selling (or as they say “flipping”) real estate. He had recently married an English woman and they had just had a baby girl at the time. 

This is my favorite story of his from that time. He had been seriously struggling to make a living as a handy-man a few years earlier. He had posted an advertisement somewhere, and got a call to do a rather ambitious job, which he accepted, of course. The problem was that he was so broke, he did not even have a car, let alone a proper construction style van, but mustering that old St. Michael’s bull shit bravado, he shows up at the site on his bicycle, explaining that his truck would be in the repair shop for a few days. Somehow he parlayed this shady misrepresentation into actually doing a first rate job, which led to others, and to others and, by the time I finally caught up with him, led him to having a beautiful house on a hill with a view of the San Francisco skyline below him. I am sorry to say I have since let that connection fade away, so I do not know what he is up to these days. 

And here’s my favorite Kenny Seminsky story from grade school days, one that I am sure he and I and the rest of our 6th grade class are deeply ashamed of for the burden it placed on those coming up through the ranks behind us. At that time, we had a combination 5th grade/ 6th grade class in the old quonset hut building, and a larger 6th grade class in the main school building. Kenny and I were in the combo class. I don’t remember the nun’s name, but she was often a little odd. Allow me to pause for a slight wacky-nun digression here. I’ll never forget her telling us the story of the time she supposedly saw some bogus diet pills that in fact contained a baby tapeworm in the capsule. She went on to describe that not only could you see the capsule move, but if you were unfortunate enough to have taken one, the tapeworm would grow and grow, and thereby sap you of all your life sustaining nutrients. However,  you could remove it by holding a glass of warm milk in front of your face and opening your mouth wide. The tape worm would leap out and you could catch it and pull it all the way out. I wonder if the screenwriter for “Alien” also had a nun telling him similarly demented stories to inspire that most memorably explosive scene in the history of pop culture.  Yikes. Pedagogy at its finest. 

Anyway, back to Kenny. Sister Tapeworm one day decided it would be clever to show that our little combo class was superior to the other 6th grade class by having the boys in our class dress up a bit one day. So the next day most of us wore a tie to school, except Kenny. He came with a sports jacket and tie, and being the incredibly handsome kid he was in those days, he certainly did not look like the usual scruffy bunch that normally darkened our hallways. Sister Tapeworm, being also a punster prankster, made a card and attached it to a bottle of ketchup, and instructed Kenny to deliver it to the other 6th grade classroom while their class was in session. The card simply said, “Catch Up.”  I doubt if anyone was impressed by her lame word-play, but the fall-out from this innocuous act was severe. The principal, as well as the other teachers, were so taken with how civilized we looked that day in our ties, that a decree was soon administered, declaring that from that day henceforth, all boys attending St. Michael’s Grade School would wear a tie to school. After all, if the girls had to wear uniforms, why shouldn’t the boys have some semblance of a uniform. And so this decree remained in force for years to come, perhaps to this day, I don’t know. All this ex-altar boy can say is my mea culpa -- “through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault.” Schoolmates, “forgive us, we knew not what we were doing.” 


10/25/16 11:37 AM #211    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Dan, Jim, i can't believe I forgot all those others!!! And the nickname Ma-ha for Hemmelgarn!! Too bad you guys can't get them to a reunion!!! I've tried to no avail. I think the Cassidy girls were a little older and went to St  Joes also Judy Benz and the Anglims lived on Foster on the hill. I do remover little Jimmy Maples they lived on that hill on Foster also. 

Dave, I know Jim Welch had a sister a year or so older than us who went to St  Joe's. I don't remember and older brother but easily could have  been one. 

Definitely remember Kenley Players and seeing Bye Bye Birdie! And Playhouse on the Green up at Powell Rd and High. 

I love the Kenny Seminski story, Mark! My mother was a friend of his mom Elsa. 

Barry Platt! Hmmm  and we also had Barry Ronan who lived on Rathbone beyond Graceland. Never knew why he wasn't at OLP.  

Bill Tribbie lived over by Harold Clark didn't he? Johanna lived over there in those newer houses by east Stanton maybe? 

And Mark, i have no recollection of you moving at all. Who lived near you then? 

 

 

 


10/25/16 03:28 PM #212    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Dan and Mark- I wasn't in that mixed class but I was in Sr. Annette's 2nd/3rd mixed and 3rd/4th mixed. I also was in a bizarre 5th/8th mixed with Principal Ellen Clare teaching. We were the fifth graders. They must have been very short on teachers. Was either of you in there?  I still have a vivid memory of Sr. Ellen Clare beating the hell out of Jack Winchester. Ripping his shirt. Slamming him into the coat closets in the back of the room. I'm talking serious violence! I've thought of that incident many times when they talk about corporal punishment. 


10/25/16 05:38 PM #213    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

Geez, Janie. I thought the IC nuns cornered the market on corporal punishment. I can still see Sr. James Marie pounding on several boys kneeling at the front of our 8th grade class. Maybe Joe or Jim or Bob can help me with the names. Don't want to smear anyone's reputation!!  In 7th grade, Sr. Ann Joseph hauled off and punch Tim McCauley square in the face.  Seems like someone else was involved but I just remember being startled out of my utmost concentration on my math work (as I was wont to do, of course!!) by this terrible commotion over by the cloakroom. It's the stuff of nightmares!!  Maybe it was because those were our middle school years before they realized there were middle school years. That's why I taught kindergarten!!  Clare

 


10/25/16 07:33 PM #214    

 

David Mitchell

 

Golly, I didn't know nuns did that stuff! I thought it was just the priests. There was Father Byrne (do I have that right?) to the north of us (St. Mikes). And father Crosser (I.C.) to the south of us. Both pretty strong reputations, but we had the king of iron-fisted rule and violent beatings at OLP with Father Foley. (and I can see the face of that Monsignior at St. Agatha too, but I cannot recall his name. We used to go to Mass there some times when I spent the night with my cousin Jim Mitchell, Watterson '63)

Father Foley had grown up a "southy" in south Boston and I seem to recall hearing that he was still doing semi-pro boxing matches on the side back when he was still in the seminary. He had that one huge leg with elephantitus(?) and when it acted up and got painful - lookout!  He would come in the classroom (bellowing out loud and practically snorting) to hand out grade cards.  He would start off yelling something like - "I don't want you little "monstas" listening to anything these stupid nuns tell ya. I tell ya it's not what you know in this life, it's who you know, and don't you little "monstas" ever forget it, or I'll beat ya' within an inch o' your lives." (in front of the nuns themselves while they stood submissively off in the corner.)

Then he would proceed to hand out the grade cards and anyone who got a "C" in conduct (often Robert Armstrong & Tom Cenamo) got a beating right then and there. And I mean beaten around the head - sometimes till blood ran from their nose. It used to scare the beejesus out of me. (p.s. Mark, this is a different "Bejeesus")

Sister Macaria (principal) did some wooping in her office but that was always with that big flat fraternuity paddle with holes drilled in it (for wind resistance), and only applied to one's bent over posterior.

I didn't learn till last reunion from Kathy Burk that that little bottle of clear "holy water" that Sister Macaria kept in her desk drawer (and took little short nips out of) was NOT actually holy water. Kathy told me she thought everyone knew it was Vodka. I must have been an awfully naive kid.

--- And Fatther Foley's bingo episodes finally drove my Dad into telling him off pretty strongly (and that was just one of two times Dad told him off. And my meek, mild, reverant Dad could really tell somebody off - wow!


10/25/16 08:35 PM #215    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

What a difference from today! I just read in the news this morning that some high school kid beat the crap out of a teacher for telling him to remove his headphones. He (the teacher) ended up in the ER and the 18 y.o. student was arrested. Students attacking teachers (and vandalizing their cars) is quite common today. With the corporal punishment doled out in the 50's and early 60's by the nuns I never remember any retaliation on the student's part.

Clare, I also recall one of our classmates (I won't mention his name) kneeling before a nun and getting smacked. Can you imagine what would happen if this would occur today?

Besides the smacks there were other, more common and benign, punishments. For instance talking in class was a moderate offense which often resulted in a crack on the knuckles from one of those old wooden rulers. Or perhaps an extra "donation" to the pagan baby fund. Or maybe writing on the blackboard "I will not talk in class" fifty times. Repeat offenders may even be given extra eraser cleaning duties. Worse crimes resulted in a trip to Sr. Reginald's office (principal of IC). By the time we hit 6th grade the boys were mandated to wear ties to school and we all discovered clip-on ties very quickly. But woe to the lad who forgot his tie as some of the nuns kept a spare in her desk - those old hairy, woolen, itchy ones that were uncomfortably hot, especially in May. Polyester was not invented yet. 

In the last few days we were at IC before graduation in 1962, a few of us boys (as I recall, Brian Doyle, Brad Nielsen, Jimmy Croyle and a handful of others) decided to do something totally outrageous: we all wore one of our father's hats to school!!! Oh, the horror of such a charade! Yep, right to Sr. Reggies office where we had to surrender our fedoras to be picked up a few days later.

At Watterson talking in class was also frowned upon, at least by Sr. Francesca who established a special seat for the offender, the "talking chair". It was up front where she could keep an eye on you. Since the shorter people always sat in the front of the class, this seat of dishoner happened to be next to Mary Clare Hummer. One classmate who had a crush on you, Clare, was encouraged by his friends to talk in class so he could sit in the "talking chair by Mary Clare".

I guess we all survived those corporal punishment days although society cringes at that today, and rightly so. Memory Lane continues even though not all memories are pleasant ones.


10/25/16 08:54 PM #216    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dan--You may be right about me having the tapeworm story in the wrong grade, I cannot swear to that, but I am glad you acknowledge that it happened, and was not some delusional misappropriation of our past on my part. However, it could not have been in 3rd grade as you suggest because I am pretty sure I had Mrs. Ruth, a lay teacher, not a nun that year. And that tapeworm story definitely came from one of nuns.

Oh, and Dan one more thing, Bob's name was McGivern, not McGovern. 

However, I am not sure why this memory of mine caused others to segue into our queasy past filled with corporal punishment, but it is clear that since others from other parishes are chiming in, it was not parish specific.  And don't even think about what went on at Aquinas, if stories told to me by Tom Fitzpatrick's older brother, (MIchael perhaps?) who went there were to be believed. Let's just say, it was not always a Beaver Cleaver world we lived in. However, before abandoning this topic, let me give a shout out to the champeen child abuser at St. Michael's, the nun who knew how to put her own twisted sense of fun in dysfunctional, the one cruising for a bruising, the terror of our hallowed halls, let's give it up everyone for none other than the nun-supreme -- Sr. ArchAngela!! Woo Hoo!  One day a second grader was messing about on the stairwell, when Sr. ArchAngela grabbed him around his mischievous throat with both of her hands, lifted him off the ground, and body slammed him into a brick wall. Then she proceeded up the stairs, leaving the kid in a discombobulated heap on the floor. I imagine her to have been muttering to herself "That'll learn 'im." 

Well, I could go on, as no doubt most of us could, but perhaps less traumatic memories are more in tune with this message forum. 

 

 


10/25/16 10:25 PM #217    

 

Jodelle Sims

Mark, I believe the third grade lay teacher was Mrs. Roach.  She was one of the first lay teachers at St. Michaels and taught 3rd grade for many years.


10/25/16 10:37 PM #218    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

Speaking of your "dad's hats" story - you remind me of a nutty thing we did at Watterson. I think we were about juniors when a group of us decideed on a clever idea (or so we thought) about doing a "formal" lunch. We got together and planned this for several days, with each guy assigned to bring something as part of the plan. I know it included Mike McCleod, Dan Cody, (maybe Keith Groff and Dennis Winchester?) and myself, but a bit hazy on any others in this brilliant group. Must have been about 8 of us - enough to fill one whole table. 

First, we all wore a sport coat and tie. When we walked in and chose our table (way out in the middle of the room so as to be as conspicuous as possible) one guy laid out a really nice table cloth, another some candle sticks with candles, one guy with plates, one with silverware, one with glassware, etc. One of us even brough flowers and a vase. (I think that's pronounced "VOZ"  if you lived west of the Olentangy) As we laid all this out, several of the nuns were buzzing around like there was going to be trouble, but yet nothing they could punish us for. I think it may have been Sister Constantius(?) and Sister Norbertine, and you could see them get all aflutter with every step we added to the setting.

Then, at a given signal we sat down and I was to turn on the portble transitor radio that I snuck out of my older sister's room. That was it!  One of the nuns ran of to the office and returned with Father ("porky") Fortkamp. And he calmly closed down our little circus act. 

Months later, during a study hall, Father Fortkamp (who used to take me or some other OLP alter boys for rides up and down I-71 at night while he practiced his sermons on us) walked in and asked me to follow him into the little library (right off the cafeteria). He led me to a place where they kept past issues of the little eight page "Josephenium Review" on file. He pulled out an issue and said, "Go read this article". It was an article he had written about the challenge of disciplining teenagers when they break the rules, but do it in such silly, innocent ways you are wont to laugh out loud. (thanks Clare). I read it, brought it back, and there he was, still standing in the door of the library with a big grin on his face. 


10/26/16 08:00 AM #219    

Joseph Gentilini

  I  am really enjoying all the conversation going on.  Brings back memories.  By the way, the pastor of St. Agatha was Monsignor George Kennedy.  Joe


10/26/16 09:28 AM #220    

 

David Mitchell

correction : mispelled Mike Mcleod's name in the "dining room" story last night. I got it fixed  - sorry Mike.

And I think Chuck Coghlan and Larry Foster might have been in that group.

Mike, do you recall this episode? 


10/26/16 11:07 AM #221    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dave -- Your little parenthetical aside about Fr. Fortkamp was about as creepy as creepy gets, yet somehow you managed to deliver it with such off-handed aplomb:  "(who used to take me or some other OLP alter boys for rides up and down I-71 at night while he practiced his sermons on us) "   Good grief, talk about a non-joy ride with all the trappings of a trapping. Yikes!


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