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10/22/16 12:51 PM #172    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

As a doc I have to chime in here also. There is no question in my mind that the computer game generation of kids live in a different fantasy world than we did as we swung on vines and physically explored our real world. In med school we never even heard of children with Type 2 Diabetes, now it is common. Some would counter argue that we as kids ate a terrible diet - those great donuts, whole milk, White Castles, etc. - but we worked it all off every day.

Yes, today we could not live without computers but I'm glad we didn't have them as kids. Heck, if we even had one of those pencil boxes with the times tables on it the nun would probably confiscate it!

10/22/16 01:21 PM #173    

Timothy Lavelle

Hey, Cisco, did you read what Tony Borean wrote?

Yeah, Poncho. Sure was nice to hear a woman's viewpoint and special memories, right? I wish more of our amigas would write and share their thoughts. I'm gettin' a little bored with "who we dated" and "who was cute", how about you?

Well Cisco, I don't know. You are as beeg a peeg as any hombre alive and everyone knows you sure do like to chase those skirts when you're not too beesy keeling the bad guys.

Oooooh Poncho. Isn't it lucky the weemen don't talk about us? At least in preent?

OOOOOOOOOoooooooo Cisco!

 


10/22/16 01:23 PM #174    

 

Antonia Borean (Kaiser)

Dave...They had an article in the Dispatch about Elick's Bakery a few years ago...Mr. Elick's son went on to be a high level executive at Panera. He lives in Siesta Key, Florida now. 


10/22/16 01:42 PM #175    

 

Michael McLeod

I had a feeling you would, Jim.

Chime in about the problem of our lack of physicality as a culture, that is.

I've always told Denise, my lovely consort, how demoralizing it must be for doctors to see a growing array of self-inflicted maladies in their patients, young and old. Just as it is demoralizing to her to see learning disabilities - LEARNING disabilities - that are tied into lack of physical activities. I don't understand the details, but I can grasp the basics: that motor skills, developed through exercise, influence and enhance the development of neural pathways and thus the intellectual development of children.

My grandfather, by the way, was a doctor. An internist, as I believe you told me you are. He had his office on East Main Street attached to his house, which was a late-Victorian mansion with pocket doors and high ceilings and a melodian in the parlour, through which you would pass through double doors into the office where he would see his patients.

My mother told a story of how her father once brought her into his office, showed her a patient who must have come in on an emergency basis, and said: "Take a look at this man. He's dead."

I would imagine he was not trying to frighten her, and she certainly did not take it that way. Just an effort to demystify a fact of life.

My mother grew up as a very practical, earthy soul as a result of being a doctor's daughter, and passed that attitude onto us.


10/22/16 01:43 PM #176    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

 

For the "Historian's"  in this group there will be a quiz at the end of this. 

After listening to the WONDERFUL stories about restaraunts in the "North End" I want to test your memories for Other restaraunts.     In the North End what about: the Fontanell in Graceland, the Worthington Inn, and a great seafood restaraunt east of I-71 on Morse Rd (Lighthouse or Wharf).  The South end has: the Claremont. Katzinger's Deli, Lindey's, and Schmidt's.  Downtown had: Lazarus, the Neil House, nearby was a cafeteria (the only difference with Canadian cafeteria's is the Canadian ones had desert first), and their was a great Chinese restaraunt on East Broad, plus Mrs. Ruth's party house.  To the East we had: Massey's, Emil's Steer Drivein, Milano's, TAT on James Road, Berwick Manor Party House, Desert Inn, Kahiki, and a dinner on Johnstown Rd. near the airposrt.  To the west we had: The Gloria, Red Door Tavern, Grandview Inn, Olentangy Inn, Stouffers, the Florentine, and the Lincoln Lodge.  The Gloria also hosted Sunday teen dances.

Now the Questions.

1. Where was "Chinatown" in Columbus?

2. What was the largest take-out order for White Castle?

Bonus question.  Where did the send the take-out order?

Joe


10/22/16 01:49 PM #177    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

I almost forgot Green Gables to the South.  A good drive-in / hangout.  The South's version of Jerry's.

 


10/22/16 01:51 PM #178    

 

Michael McLeod

I'll make a wild guess that the largest take out order went out to feed all the children in one of those prolific catholic families on east north broadway.


10/22/16 02:46 PM #179    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Joe,

Bob Sousi's Fontanelle was great, a true icon of the north end.

Chinatown in Columbus??? Maybe somewhere around Jong Mei's?

WC carry out record?? Perhaps something Woody would have done for the OSU football team the night before a game (but that could have been gastroenterologically dangerous!😱).

10/22/16 03:14 PM #180    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

I am jumping in here to post this request from Monica Haban.

"Any chance you could email, or post on our web site, the names of all in the photo taken at OLV on Saturday night?  I know most, but sadly not all.  My funniest reason is one of our attendees was convinced that Eric Clapton was there.  Told her I didn't recognize the guy!  Long story short, it was Bob Berkemer!"

Anyone want to take on the challenge of naming everyone row by row?


10/22/16 03:31 PM #181    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

I wrote a pretty detailed response yesterday but got interrupted and it was lost. It was in response to the baseball references. Before Jim posted I said I remembered my dad and brother, Tommy, watching endless baseball games on the weekend in our living room. I also remember Dizzy Dean singing "The Wasbash Cannonball". :)

I have another baseball story. My brother was an avid baseball card collector and statistician. Because of this I was no slouch myself.  About 3 years ago I was trying to rent a condo in Puerto Vallarta for the winter.  The owner is named Jeanne Maloney and is from California. She was used to renting by the week or two because she thought she made more money that way. We started talking and I said I was from Ohio.  She says I used to visit Ohio a lot.  Where in Ohio? I said Columbus and she said she went to Cincinnati. I politely asked if she had family there. She said her brother used to pitch for the Reds!  I quickly pulled the name Jim Maloney out of my memory.  She was so impressed she decided to take a chance on me and this will be our third winter in her unit right on the ocean. Sometimes the Trivia comes in handy! He was a heck of a pitcher! Right before the Big Red Machine. 

 

 


10/22/16 04:05 PM #182    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

In response to the cool cars, what about Jane Bush's 16th birthday present. A brand new GTO?!  If I was lucky I sometimes got to borrow my mom's old beat up Rambler....or there was always the city bus. We lived in Colonial Hills in Worthington, just a couple blocks from St. Michael's. So we could ride our bikes pretty much anywhere like the pool or library. We walked to Nicklaus Drugs (uncle of not yet famous Jack) and our branch of Gable's Dairy where we got an 8¢ ice cream cone. And not to be outdone Fred, we ate weekly at the original Ann-Ton's. Right on High Street across from St Mike's. The owners were Ann and Tony Fracasso and Tony was my dad's Bookie.  Fred probably knows about these things. Lol. I can remember the boys Eddie and Joe-Joe helping in the restaurant and Nancy and Mary Jo sitting at a back table doing their homework. Nancy became Nancy Moretti. If anyone remembers Carol Belli from OLP her mom was a Fracasso as was Mrs. DeSantis. And Gloria Fracasso's dad, Guy, was Tony's brother. Proving the rule that all the Italians in town are somehow related. ;)

Speaking of Colonial Hills, it was - and still is - a post war housing neighborhood and home to many in our class. David Fredericks lived next door. Let's see, who else? Don Holland, Colleen Cotter (before moving to Arlington for 7th grade), Diane Colbert, Rose Colonel, Brian McNamara, Steve Hemmelgarn, Johnny Angel, the Winchester twins before moving to Brookside. Tom Weilbacher a year ahead of us.  Who am I forgetting?! Come on my St. Michael's peeps, join in! 


10/22/16 04:13 PM #183    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Little hints.

The White Castle order(s) where not to a family.  There were two or three annual orders.  The last one, which for the first time included ONE cheeseburger, took FOUR - 40 foot tractor trailers.

Chinatown was inside the area bounded by Broad Street, High Street, what is now I-70 / I-71, and Rt. 315.


10/22/16 06:47 PM #184    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Seems some forrmer residents of Columbus, who were living in a retirement type communiity in either Arizona or New Mexico, were trying to come up with ways to raise funds for a civic project and got talking about White Castles.  They decided to sell White Castles to raise the money.  I think the four trucks also contained rented equipment for "cooking" or re-heating.  The last time I read about it they ordered the largest take-out order ever, 200,000 White Castles and one Cheeseburger.

Chinatown, and the Chinese Cultural center, was located into the fifties West of High Street, North of Main Street, and South of Main street. 

Now I'll say good night.


10/22/16 07:53 PM #185    

 

David Mitchell

Jane, Didn't Bob Newhart (comedian) also live in Colonial Hills for a few years? And I know Gerge Clooney was at St. Michaels for a few years while his dad was at Channel 4 in Columbus. His class picture is a little toe-headed blonde in about 3rd grade with Father Byrne's photo in the corner and the nun, who's name I cannot recall. Then his dad got promoted to a better job at WLW in Cincinnati.

My Mom was on pretty good terms with Ann-Tons owners and the DeSantis family. My older sisters knew Carol Beli, and Noreen DeSantis was one of her better friends. I seem to recall Noreen came up and introduced hersef to me again at my sister's funeral last May (wow, my memory is poor).

Joe, you just abbout covered it with all those restaraunts. It hasn't been all that long since I was at the Red Door for lunch. But what about the "Blue Dube" (Danube) up on High Street north of campus? And Marzetti's fine dining downtown?

I should point out that the first girl I went "out" with at Watterson was Tony Borean. No, it was not really a date, but we were teamed up together for that fund drive to pay for the new wooden basketball floor (remember, it was tile before that). I think it was about the first week of school and we were all taken out in teams to go door to door and beg for money - the good old Catholic way. An adult drove each foursome and we walked up and down both sides of the block to ring door bells.

Note: the other team in our car was Debbie Alexander and Gene Rodgers - hmmmmmm?


10/22/16 08:05 PM #186    

 

David Mitchell

Oh by the way - Erik Clapton may still spend a lot of time in Columbus. He married that young girl from Watterson that he got pregnant at a party in Hollywood years ago. My two daughters were either in, or close to being in her and her sisiter's classes. Some of you may have seen the photo in the Dispatch of the two of them sitting at a Columbus Crew soccor match (maybe 20+ years ago?). I passed him one day coming out of the barber shop in the little hidden building behind the old Worthington Hardware. She was from Worthington and they bought a house there and split their time between his mansion in England and the house up off of 315 near her family. He apparantly just came to town to be there for the baby's birth, with no intention of marrying the girl. He met a friend of my cousins and got talked into attending local AA meetings - then started liking Columbus - and then whammo - he fell in love with the baby and decided to be it's full time father. God is good!


10/22/16 08:17 PM #187    

 

Fred Clem

Speaking of Green Gables, it was on W. Mound St. near Central Point Shopping Center.  The owner, Milt Lustnauer, teamed with Roy Tuggle, owner of Burger Boy Mainliner on E. Livingston, to form the BBF chain.  The initials stood for Burger Boy Food-O-Rama, (remember the whirling satellites?).

The chain grew to nearly 50 stores in OH, WV & KY.  They sold the chain to Borden in 1970.  Milt went into real estate and Roy retired to Florida.  My uncle Tony, founder of the Berwick Manor, bought Roy's house. They had been friends for years as their businesses were very close to each other but not really competitors.

After Borden killed BBF, Dave Thomas acquired a few of the locations and started the Sisters Chicken and Biscuits chain.  Sisters didn't last long after Wendy's spun it off to a new owner.


10/22/16 11:32 PM #188    

 

David Mitchell

To quote the late Harry Carey,

CUBS WIN!

CUBS WIN!

CUBS WIN!

Wow, a World Series I cannot lose. My two faorite teams are in. Never before in my life.

I saw my first ball game at old Cleveland Municipal Stadium with John Jackson. Mr. Jackson drove my Dad and I and John and another young friend up to Cleveland for a double header when we were about 4th or 5th grade. We drove up the old "3-C" highway and it only took about 5 hours in bad traffic. I seem to recall it was an OLDs Rocket 88. We got a room in a cheap motel south of Cleveland and went in to the city Saturday (or Sunday?) morning. We watched Herb Score pitch against Whitey Ford for the Yankees. Saw Yogi Berra and Mickey Mantle vs. Rocky Colavito, Vic Powers and Minnie Minoso. John and I took our ball gloves in hopes of catching a home run. We were about ten rows up in left field just inside the foul pole. Minoso hit three home runs in the two games, and almost everything he hit came close but not close enough. 

---Truth be known, a CUBS WIN tonight is not helping my stomach through this OSU - Penn State mess - YIKES!


10/23/16 12:28 AM #189    

 

Fred Clem

Dave,

Can you believe with the great year the Indians had they finished 28th out of 30 teams in total attendance. Cincinnati, with their terrible season, out drew Cleveland by more than 300,000 fans.  It's a shame that the "Mistake on the Lake" doesn't support their baseball team.  I'm rooting for the Cubbies!

Fred


10/23/16 02:13 PM #190    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Good Sunday morning all you Eagles! Just sitting here on a beautiful October day having coffee with Janet wishing I had a couple of those Clintonville donuts or a flying saucer 🍩. Also lamenting OSU's and Air Force Academy's (home town team) losses.

Janie, hope someone will come up with the names of all in that class picture. Perhaps it is our aging eyes that is the problem. Maybe a microscope could reveal our name badges.

Toni, I don't know what the proper term for Cintonville residents would be. Have Fritz come up with something since he is older than the rest of us 😀.

One thing in common with most of these eateries that have been mentioned (White Castle being the exception) is they were not chains or franchises but rather family owned. This is rare today as so many places are nationwide or even worldwide. Dunkin' Donuts, Krispy Kreme, McDonalds, Starbucks and a host of Italian places populate our neighborhoods and cities. We have found some individual restaurants here in Colorado Springs which we frequent and have gotten to know their owners and waitstaff but they are few. Sometimes we will drive up to some of the small mountain towns to find others (like a great breakfast place called Grandmother's Kitchen in Woodland Park and a little coffee and burger shop in Deckers). But competition from the food giants are even entering some of those towns. In fact, most of those who go to these unique places are of our generation. The Millennials tend to cluster (with their tablets) at the franchises. How many of the individual places can continue to survive?

Got to go, my coffee is getting cold. Keurig is one of the better things about these modern times, but I'd still rather be in Deckers.

10/23/16 04:08 PM #191    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Dave, George Clooney actually lived across the road from Susie Fenstermaker at the top of Powell Hill just west of the Olentangy. Does anyone remember Susie? She was with us through sophomore year when she transferred to Olentangy. Those of you who belonged to Brookside knew her from there too. Her dad owned Logans Inc the non-textbook part of Longs Bookstore. Speaking of which is no longer there. That's another icon gone. :(


10/23/16 05:23 PM #192    

 

David Mitchell

Janie, the name Fenstermaker rings a bell but tlike so many memories, it turns to mush in my head.

As for Tommy Weilbacker - I was about 12 or 13 before I relized he was NOT one of my cousins. We used to spend every Christmas Eve in my early childhood (together with about 10 other Gordon and Hughes kids) at the home of Tommy's grandparents - the older Mr. and Mrs. Gordon at their "new" home in Grandview. My Dad practically grew up in their first house down near 11th or 12th Avenue. Mr. Gordon was president of 5th Ave Savings Bank until Ohio National (later Bank One) bought them out. You may recall sadly that Tommy's mother, Anne was one of the victims of that massive radium overdose error at Riverside Hospital back in the 70's. And she was such a wonderful, upbeat lady.

Just thought to add this; Anybody remember that ugly white brick Ohio National Bank building right next to Our Lady of Peace Church? (on the site of Mr Deritas' little old poultry shop - several Deritas (spelling?) girls were ahead and behind us at Watterson). That Branch Bank office was manged for a long time by one of Tommy Weilbacher's Uncles, Phil Gordon, who's son Phil ("flip") Gordon was also a year ahead of us at Watterson.

And what about Bob Newhart? Do you recall him living in Colonial Hills?  


10/23/16 05:38 PM #193    

 

Fred Clem

Those of us that lived west of the Olentangy had some favorite shopping places, too.  There are at least three, all in Tremont Shopping Center, that are still operating today.  Tremont Pharmacy, The Original Goodie Shop (bakery) and the Chef-O-Nette (restaurant) have all been in business over 60 years.  There is even an independent grocery store called Hoffman's, but back then was Tom Tarpy's Market.  I guess the center could be called a museum of small, locally owned business.


10/23/16 05:50 PM #194    

 

David Mitchell

Fred, good call, but is it to my credit, or detriment, that I have never "dined" at the legendary "Chef-O-Nette?

 

And my mother used to take me downtown to the Beggs Building (where Dad's first office was) to buy specail shoes from Tony (I think?) who owned a shoe store of the same name. He moved to Tremont Center and we went there for years to buy shoes. Being easily amused, I alwasy liked the little fountain in that tiny center couryard near his shop. 


10/23/16 08:27 PM #195    

Timothy Lavelle

Anyone know how to contact Ron Kovaks? I was hoping to see him at the reunion. I'm trying to put the band back together for another tour.....How about Mike Haggerty? Did he go to school with us or is that another hallucination?

I used to go back to the Hilltop (West side of Columbus) in the 7th and 8th grade to see kids I'd grown up with. Somebody's older brother let us ride ("Get in the back shrimp") along on a trip to Green Gables. Central Point Shopping Center was nearby Gables and was that newest invention of man...a shopping center. It was second to Great Western (?) further out West Broad where you could go see the Seven Wonders of the World...in miniature...which today would cause us to howl with derisive laughter but back then was pretty cool. Anyway, at Gables I saw my very first hot rods and cars that people had spent, no doubt, hundreds of hours on. I can still remember a car with a deep maroon and white paint job...the mega-coated dark red looked like you could actually reach down into the paint. There were, truly, girls with skates on taking orders and car radios blaring that music from the devil, rock n roll.

I am thinking of Trabue Road at the corner of McKinley....San Margarita??Anyway, there was a little  Italian restaurant there. We didn't do much eating out so it was really special and they had spaghetti with homemade FLAT noodles. For a kid with a working mother more accustomed to Chef Boyardee that flat noodle spaghetti with real meatballs was really mpoouth watering. Fred...Hey Fred, who owned it and who has the recipe for that sauce and directions for making those noodles. C'mon buddy, I'm dyin' here!

Wow....spell-check....didn't see that before....probably helps to look, huh?

 


10/23/16 09:30 PM #196    

 

Fred Clem

Yolanda's was owned by Joe and Danny (Dante) Asmo. The restaurant was named for their sister Yolanda. Their brother Armond was our neighbor on Fishinger Road.  His daughter, Beverly, went all 8 grades with us at St. Agatha and St. Andrew but then went to UA.  The Asmo family came from the Italian enclave of Milo-Grogan.  My mother's family did as well. The "famiglia" connection dates back over 100 years.


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