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11/27/24 10:34 PM #14677    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

I've been about to write something similar to your last post for some time now. We are entering an awkward time of life - the process of winding down. It really hit me as I was recovering from my wreck last year and I began to realize I would likley not get back to my (easy but fun) part time job soon, or maybe ever.

And I think the situation is compounded by the loss of our life partners. Fortuneatly, you have someone to share life with. Some of us are alone and that presents a special challenge.

But keeping relevant is a task that requires some effort. 

I don't paint, sing, or play piano. I no longer enjoy serious cooking. And I have lost my passion for gardening. I no longer have good enough balance to ride my bike or play golf. My really nice clubs sit in the corner, and my expensive bike gathers dust in the garage. My scenic water-front neighborhood is half empty most of the time, so visiting with neighbors out on the dock is getting rare.

Hobbies, and volunteer work are two good ways to keep from falling into that "self absorbtion" trap I mentioned earlier. Thank goodness, I have finally begun to write my book, and that can keep me occupied for a good part of the day - at least some days. 

One of my volunteeer ministry teams at church is a great reminder of how much I am blessed with compared to others. 

 

p.s. If I could change one thing it would be to se my three grandkids (all in Washington and Oregon) more often. 

 

My neighbors kids Kayaking out on the river in front of of the house today. Big Oyster roast tomorrow on their front yard with about 50 people - been enjoying that for these past 22 years. Nothing like May River "Oystas".


11/28/24 10:03 AM #14678    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks dave.

And my timing for that retirement post was lousy given today's weather here.

Sunlight floods the gorgeous backyard of mine with that spectacular backdrop of bougainvilla in yellow, magenta and purple and I'll head off later to turkey dinner with a woman i swear to God I don't deserve or if I do I must a better catch than whoever's klunky face that is in the bathroom mirror this morning.

Celebrate however and with whomever you're blessed with, all.


11/28/24 12:36 PM #14679    

 

Michael McLeod

I've probably  shared this before but I met Woody briefly as a young adult.

By "met" I mean:

I was somewhere with my mother, whatever the situation was I cannot recall. It was in a public but not terribly crowded outdoor place in pleasant weather, and Woody was standing there alone in a thin crowd of people who were, for the most part, ignoring him, at least for that moment. And I whispered to my mother, "I would rather meet him than the pope."

And my mother- this will tell you all you need to know about what kind of person she was - grabbed my elbow, dragged me over to Woody, and told him what I had just said.

And Woody shook my hand and said to my mother: "Well, the pope doesn't have a football team."

Apparently, as far as Woody was concerned, Notre Dame didn't count.


11/28/24 01:29 PM #14680    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Happy Thanksgiving blessings to all!  I came across this Proclamation by George Washington many years ago and put it in this video as a reminder to myself and others of the principles and values that our first President articulated as he set aside a November day 235 years ago for the nation to pause and give thanks to God.

 


11/28/24 02:30 PM #14681    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy


11/28/24 06:21 PM #14682    

 

David Mitchell

M/M

Nice video.

And I have always loved that old hymn - "Nearer My God To Thee".


11/29/24 03:29 PM #14683    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

I understand some of you are not receiving emails from the website. We sent out an invite for a Christmas lunch at MCL at Kingsdale on Monday Dec. 16 at 11:30 am. 
 


11/29/24 04:52 PM #14684    

 

David Mitchell

Got both of them. Thanks Janie. Wish the distance was not so great.


11/29/24 07:18 PM #14685    

 

David Mitchell

Maybe it's a slow enough day to post something of a story on the Forum. I've been writing a book finally that I promised myself years ago and finally made a start. Some of it is too rough for this Forum and some of it just plain too long.  

But I think I'll try something that is only 2 pages on full sized 8 1/2  by 11 pages and should not offend anyone.  

I was almost going to title this "Who Said Combat Can't Be Funny?", but I thought that might seem offensive to some. Understand we had to resort to very strong sense of sarcasm to deflect some of the fear.

This is during my first tour, still flying as a "wing" behind another "Loach" aircraft, in one of our daily low level (10 to 20 feet), slow speed searches - with the pirmary objective of getting shot at. Understand we were not permittted to fire first (with some exceptions) in Vietnam, so the tactic was to find them and bait them into shooting at us. Then We were allowed to shoot back. We succeeded in getting shot at quite often.

I don't mean to belittle those times which may have gone badly for members of our class family. I had more luck than anyone deserves so forgive me if this seems disrespectful. 

(apologies  I'm using Jim and Jack - its one same guy

 

## - JIM LOVES HIS TUNA FISH  

 

 One of my good buddies, and eventual platoon leader was a guy named Jim Jackson. He usually went by Jack (one of two in our platoon). He was a first Lieutenant on arrival, but by this time he was a Captain and I often flew his “wing”. We were a good team. He happened to be a very tiny, skinny guy, but with a huge appetite. The lunches we ate in the field (those days on which we were flying and away from our “Mess Hall”) were the legendary “C-rations” - which weren’t very good. Some of us went to great lengths to acquire other food sources for our flying days. I personally had acquired two cases of VanCamp’s Beenee Weenee’s that I lucked into on my one and only visit to the tiny PX at Soc Trang - a smaller, quieter base where I went to take one of my semi-annual “check rides”.

 Jim had acquired a large stash of his favorite, canned tuna, probably in a care package from home. He would take not one, but three or four cans of tuna in his Loach on days he was flying. And we all had our trusty “P-38” folding can openers on our dog tag chain. We Scout pilots stuffed our “C-rats”, or whatever meal we had, in a cavity down beyond our anti-torque pedals and at the bottom of the cockpit “bubble” in the front of the ship. You could actually see it through the plexiglass from the outside front of the cockpit better than from the inside.   

It was a day we were working way south, out of Vi Thanh (“Vee Tawn”) - a place where we often ran into trouble. I was flying Jack’s “wing” and we were slowly weaving our way along a small canal with the typical thin wood line, so we were at about 25 feet to clear the trees. We came to another canal and tree line intersecting this canal. Jack made a hard banking right turn and I followed him along the new canal line. As soon as I made the turn I had this immediate sense of something or someone below us and called out to Jack, “One six, I think we’ve got some people down here.” Not that I could actually see anyone, just a sense of their presence. (A common feeling after we became more experienced). Maybe it was the sight of a few fresh cut "Nippa Palm” leaves (camouflage) - I don’t recall exactly.

I had barely finished speaking when Jack calls out on his radio “Receiving Fire, Receiving Fire”! Jack abruptly yanked his ship away in one direction and I laid down a quick burst of cover fire under him with my mini-gun, and then pulled away hard in the opposite direction. 

Then followed a bit of radio silence, and I could not see Jack’s ship anywhere. I flew a quick, tight circle to get a good look around in all directions and still could not see him. I thought he’d been shot down, but where? I called out for him, “One-Six, One-Six - this is One-Three. Where are you One-Six?”  No response.

Then our AMC, (Air Mission Commander - Major Smith - 500 feet above us), called out, “Oooone-Six,,,, Oooone-Six, this is Six, Where are you One-Six?”  No response, another pause, and then again, “Comanche One-Six, this is Comanche Six - c’mon back buddy.” Another long silence .

Suddenly I caught sight of Jack’s ship. He was several hundred yards out and circling up at about a hundred feet of altitude. And he finally responded to the Major’s call.

“Comanche Six, this is One-Six - We took a couple hits in our bubble and have some visibility problems,,,”  Another pause,,, “We have tuna fish splattered all over the inside of the cockpit and a clump of it on my visor”.  He had taken a direct hit right through several of his cans of Tuna and it had splattered everywhere in his cockpit.

For a moment, Major Smith had his microphone open and you could hear just a moment of his hysterical laughter over the air. And I crackedd up myself. We all headed back to Vi Thanh to switch teams and let Jack assess the damage and clean up his cockpit. There were several large clumps of tuna on the inside of his plexiglass bubble along with a some larger spots of smeared fish oil. With a bit of cleanup, his ship was still flyable. The bubble would later be replaced back home by our maintenance guys.

We teased Jack about it for weeks afterwards. I recall someone even suggesting he switch to canned salmon. 

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(Jim Jackson and I were good friends and he visited me in Columbus years later. I think he was shot down three times (not that unusual in our mission) and was badly shot up in his legs on that last time. He wrote me a letter humorously blaming me for him getting shot down. He considered me his "good luck charm" - he was never shot down while I flew his "Wing'", which I had flown for months before I was moved up to fly as a "Lead". He was never shot down until after I left the Army and came home. I think he died years later in Panama due to complications from those multulpe bullet wounds.)  


11/29/24 09:05 PM #14686    

 

Michael McLeod

Dave:

My service wasn't nearly as intense as yours but the twisted sense of humor the military life imposes on you inhabits every duty station.

Switching hats now to my Spec 5 writing coach MOS.  You're golden with your story, ace. Don't second guess yourself. Just let it fly. Pardon the pun. But seriously. Not saying it to be nice. Good stuff. Feel free to connect with me for feedback on anything. mcleod.michael1@gmail.com

 


11/29/24 10:56 PM #14687    

 

Mark Schweickart

As one who has encouraged you to write down your stories, I am thrilled that you are finally doing this. The sample you have provided here reinforces my opinion. Great stuff--informative, harrowing and comical, all at the same time. 
My only critique would be for you to lose (or maybe change) the last sentence. It's worded as if there is an obvious joke that one would get when tuna becomes salmon(??), but if there is a joke here, I certainly didn't get it. Otherwise, keep it up. These stories need to be told. 


11/30/24 03:38 PM #14688    

 

David Mitchell

So what the heck is it with these doggone Michigan teams?


11/30/24 06:31 PM #14689    

Joseph Gentilini

Was really bumbed with the Michigan - Ohio game today.  Based on the past season of Michigan, I was fairly confident Ohio would win.  Maybe we were just over-confident. SAD.


11/30/24 07:31 PM #14690    

 

Michael McLeod

Actually I wasn't all that shocked today.  TSUN's defense was getting high marks and getting better all season.

And we'd already lost to the only other quality team we played.

Ugliest scene ever at the horseshoe. Hurts so bad I'm numb. Sure do feel awful for coach and his family. I will be interested in whether he stays or goes.

And I knew damn well when tsun won that they'd do something nasty on the field and they did.

this wound will take a while to heal.

and of course it's got nothing on real life tragedy.

but at the moment it feels like a fairly good approximation.

Mark: tuna is a cheap fish; salmon higher class and more expensive. I'd guess that's what that saying - which I'd never heard before - is all about. OR - and this is likelier - maybe tuna smells worse than salmon. 

I did some research. 

"Raw salmon has a fresh, clean taste that is slightly sweet and buttery. The taste of raw salmon can also vary depending on the species and where it was caught."

But I can't swear for the veracity of that statement. There was something fishy about the website where I found it.

 

 


12/01/24 03:43 PM #14691    

 

David Mitchell

Mark and Mike,

You guys are taking this tuna thing way past the intended joke. It was just somebody trying to add a layer of humor to an already funny story.

 

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As for Coach Day - I seem to recall how he already showeed his lack of class a couple years ago during a post game sideline interview after beating Notre Dame. He went on some childish rant about "how tough we are".  Something relating to a statement made by someone at Notre Dame. I foget the details.

But yesterday's fight on the field was a low point in his carreer.

 

Added Later:

Just watched a video of Texas Coach Sarksian getting his team off the field and stopping their post victory demonstration at Texas A&M.  Instead parrticipating, he showed some class. Day may be a good coach but he's remarkably immature. 


12/01/24 04:45 PM #14692    

Timothy Lavelle

I think if you come to my house and attempt to piss on my porch, I should have the juevos to come out and poke you in the nose. Maybe we just grew up differently. My people were hicks.

Retrospectively, I no longer despise Baker Mayfield but if someone had knocked him out when he planted the Okey flag I would have been on my feet applauding. 

Politeness...sportsmanship...if you don't have them don't expect me to be a saint. 

 


12/01/24 06:08 PM #14693    

 

David Mitchell

I guess to me, it's one thing to have the kids get emotional after such a game, but it's another matter having the "adult in the room" (the Coach) join in the altercation out on the field.  


12/01/24 09:17 PM #14694    

 

Michael McLeod

 

I watched the post game film and didn't see either coach do anything rash,  Coach Day was on the field - where the hell else would he be? - but I didn't see him doing anything provocative. Au contraire. He apparently did not too much but too little. His was an error of omission. 

. In such cases the coaches usually are out there to try to get their players away from the conflict. Day was, apparently, clueless. Or intentionally letting his players run rampant. Here's a bit from a sportswriter on the scene:

Ohio State football coach Ryan Day is taking some flak for not doing more to stop the postgame fight between his team and Michigan following the Buckeyes' 13-10 upset on Saturday.

Among those are former college football and NFL linebacker-turned Fox Sports 1 analyst Emmanuel Acho.

"Also, Ryan Day, your whole team is in the midst of a brawl, and you're on the sideline asking 'What happened?' Huh!?," Acho wrote on X (formerly Twitter) on Saturday. "Get your butt on the field and command your players go to the locker room."

Too bad he didn't. It would have saved osu a lot of money. You'll see this in the news tonight but in the end  both teams got fined $100,000 by the big ten for allowing the fight on the field to happen.

So it really is appalling.  As if the loss itself wasn't appalling enough. I'm too numb to be appalled any more. 

 


12/02/24 11:10 AM #14695    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dave--Say, I didn't mean to open a can of worms (or stinky fish) with my comment about the ending joke. I just thought that since I missed the funny part, that other readers might also. Ending on a joke is good idea, but making one scratch one's head... not so much. 


12/02/24 12:00 PM #14696    

 

David Mitchell

Being a life-long lover of canned smoked oysters myself, I will not enter the fray any further.

You say Toe-May-toe,,,I say Toe Mot-toe. Let's call the whole thing off.

 


12/02/24 09:08 PM #14697    

 

John Maxwell

Better luck next year. I am shocked at the reaction of the players who overdosed on the expectation that they should have won the contest. In a rivalry, I believe that the competitive programming is so intense that homocide seems a logical solution to being beaten. Losing the contest is one thing, but losing one's composure is just simply unwarranted. The side effect is a lack of interest.

12/04/24 04:03 PM #14698    

 

Michael McLeod

This is a story I wrote quite a few years ago. Over the years I was asked to bring it with me and read it to retirees at senior citizens homes, as I recently did.  For all I know - my memory is caca - I've imposed it on you already and if so I apologize. 

It always reminds me of my dad, who was a vet.

 
They live a little bit of the big war
Author
By Michael Mcleod | Orlando Sentinel
They materialize in broad daylight on a Saturday afternoon, camouflage netting stretched over their helmets, olive-drab leggings tucked over their combat boots, weathered M-1’s slung over their shoulders. They smell of canvas ammo belts. They look as if they’re ready to fight World War II all over again.
A senior officer steps forward, wearing the gold oak leaf clusters of a major and the dress uniform of the U.S. Army Rangers, circa 1942. He calls the small troop to attention, thanks them for coming, checks their weapons, tells them to form two columns. Then he barks out one final, critical command:
“Turn your cell phones on vibrate.”
That’s the sort of detail that can make or break this breed of weekend warrior. There were no cell phones at The Big One.
The 22 uniformed men who have lined up at the doorway of the Orlando VA Medical Center are World War II reenactors, preparing to march inside and pay homage to the real thing — a group of aging veterans, many of whom served during the war.
The small reenactors group is just part of a latter-day band of brothers that began cropping up across the country in the early 1970s.
Though neither as well-known nor as numerous as their Civil War counterparts, World War II reenactors are every bit as devoted. They form units based on the ones that played key roles in the war, complete with a chain of command and standards for moving up through the ranks from buck private to officer. They spend thousands on weapons, uniforms and salvaged military vehicles, such as the restored “Willie” Jeep this group at the VA hospital has brought along. They are sticklers for authenticity, down to the last button.
They participate in mock skirmishes throughout the country, most of them off-limits to spectators. The biggest of these is an annual reenactment of the Battle of the Bulge that draws nearly a thousand reenactors to Fort Indiantown Gap military base in central Pennsylvania.
The vast majority of the 6,000 hobbyists are middle-aged men, though there are groups, such as the Paper Dolls, that consist of women who portray nurses, Red Cross volunteers and French partisans. Most reenactors choose to portray GIs, but some outfit themselves as British, Russian, and yes, German soldiers: Somebody has to play the bad guy.
When they head for the woods to stage battles — firing blanks and heaving mock grenades packed with baking soda at one another — the code of honor calls for casualties to remove their helmets, wait 10 minutes or so. then rise, like a regenerated zombie in a video game, and rejoin the fray.
Once, at the Pennsylvania event, where parts of the battle are open to the public, an announcer preceded an analysis of a make-believe clash by advising the crowd: “The Germans have won the toss, and they will be attacking.”
Jenny Thompson, author of War Games: Inside the World of 20th Century War Reenactors, spent part of her time researching the book in the company of a group representing the U.S. Army’s 4th Armored Division. What impressed her most was how fussy they were about their uniforms.
“As they talked about their clothing and accessories,” she says, “the reenactors almost exemplified, I hate to say it, the stereotype of women.”
A hitch for history
Some of their activities might seem boyish, naive or even a little absurd. But when the World War II reenactors talk about the pursuit, they speak of motivations that have much deeper roots than outsiders might suspect.
Most are history buffs with a wide-ranging knowledge of the war and an encyclopedic grasp of the battles fought by the unit they have adopted.
Some start off as collectors. That Jeep in the hospital parking lot belongs to Bill Zukauskas, a 51-year-old industrial hygienist from Jacksonville. He also owns everything from a 1941 M1 Armored Scout Car to a cheap camera that was given him by a veteran who carried it at Omaha Beach on D-Day.
Some are fired by sheer patriotism. Dr. Juan Suarez, a 50-year-old Cuban-born Orlando internist, dates his passion for reenacting to an encounter with a real-life veteran during his internship at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. The patient was a grizzled Army colonel who groused, in you-can’t-handle-the-truth style, that the United States is like a magnificent palace whose occupants are blissfully unaware of the debt they owe to those who are posted at the drawbridge.
Like most of the other participants who have assembled outside the veterans hospital, Suarez, who belongs to a unit of ersatz British paratroopers, relishes immersing himself in an era when heroism and villainy were far more clear-cut.
“It was not a war of aggression or conquest on our part,” he says. “We liberated people by the millions. It just staggers me to think of the unity and the sacrifices of that time. It was a special group of men who stormed those beaches.”
The longing for kinship with those heroic individuals, buffed to a gloss by the passage of time, is at the core for many reenactors.
“I think it’s important to relive it, and remind people that at one time, defending this country was an honor that no one questioned,” says Chris Colman, a 48-year-old Orange County deputy in real life, a private in Fox company as a reenactor.
You can get the big picture, the time line, the facts and the figures of that era out of a history book. That doesn’t satisfy reenactors such as Colman, who has organized the hospital visit. They want an experience, a sense of what it was like to be a common foot soldier. Like the science fiction and fantasy buffs who pose as Klingons and Gryffindors, they seek the vicarious experience of losing themselves in another world. They even have a phrase for it — “golden moment.”
One such small moment came to Zukauskas in the midst of a mock battle that included dodging not soldiers but armored vehicles. “A German half-track came crashing towards me. Here’s this big, rumbling, 16-ton piece of equipment going by. My heart was in my throat. I thought, OK. That’s a little bit of what it must have been like. That’s close enough for me.”
They were the real deal
But there is one last element of World War II reenacting that is even more pervasive than the quest for a golden moment. It revolves around an advantage that they have over those who prefer masquerading as Minutemen, Yanks and Rebs: Though the chances are diminishing with each passing year, they can still have face-to-face encounters with their heroes.
A wealth of such moments awaits as they march inside the veterans hospital, where, after a brief ceremony, one set of soldiers mingles with another.
The real-life veterans, most in their 70s and 80s, are arrayed across the rec room. There are 50 of them. Some sit on folding chairs in the front of the room, others are in wheelchairs just behind them, and finally, in back, there are those who’ve been wheeled down in portable beds.
Some wear baseball caps that advertise their branch of service and the wars in which they served. Jacob Miller’s is the gaudiest of the lot: a retired, 80-year-old command sergeant-major in the Army, he served in World War II, Vietnam, and Korea. When a small group of reenactors takes him outside for a closer look at the vintage Jeep, tears begin rolling down his cheeks.
Inside, another World War II vet asks a reenactor to let him heft his M-1.
“It’s a lot heavier than I remember,” he says.
Someone has found a tape of an old, old song, and now it plays softly in the background. “I don’t want to set the world on fire,” the Ink Spots sing. “I just want to set a fire in your heart.”
A vet in a wheelchair is telling a story to a small circle of rapt reenactors. It was a few days after D-Day, and he was looking for cover in the French countryside when he saw a foxhole, dove in, and discovered a Brit, brewing tea.
“Care for a cup?” said the Brit.
“Got something stronger?” asked the GI.
Yet there are those among the vets who could tell a tale or two but would rather not go into it. Some things nostalgia can’t erase.
Walter Morris is 88. With bright blue eyes and a ready smile, he is one of the most cheerful and active of the veterans in the hospital. He jokes with the reenactors. But he does not mention what it was like, as a POW in a German stalag, to be so close to starvation that when a fellow prisoner died, you kept the body around for as long as you could stand it, propping him up, telling the guards he was just napping, then divvying up his meal when it came around.
It just might be what Morris has on his mind when he gives one reenactor a small smile and says:
“You guys oughta be careful. You don’t know what you’re getting into.”
Originally Published: August 13, 2006 at 12:00 AM EST

12/04/24 06:20 PM #14699    

Joseph Gentilini

Michael, thanks for this remarkable story.  Powerful.  When I meet a veteran on the streets, etc., I always thank them for their service.  They saved the free world by their lives during WW2.  Do bad we are still waging war at several placed in this world. Humans can't seem to find a way to live in peace.  Thanks again.

 

Joe 


12/04/24 08:54 PM #14700    

 

David Mitchell

Mike and Joe,

I was having a similar thought. Just thinking how lucky to be born in this particular geographical location on the globe - and not Ukraine, Palestine, Darfur, or wherever.


12/05/24 01:36 PM #14701    

 

Michael McLeod

thanks guys. what's kind of sad is that I look at that story and I don't think I could write it again.

I mean I think my conceptual skills have gone downhill after a certain point as I aged.

It's just a weird experience to read old clips and see writing strategies that I don't think I could duplicate.

But I gotta tell you: writing is hard. It never got easy for me. I was just stubborn. I kept at it. Not because I was noble. Because I had mean editors and mean deadlines and a mean house mortgage and didn't want to blow it with any of those three basic scare the hell out of you elements of success and be a bum on the streets. Necessity is a mother in both the good and the bad sense of that word. 

Speaking of which The key blessing I had growing up was a mother who appreciated artistry and literature. She was a doctors daughter and was educated at st mary of the springs and was an understated class act from start to finish and got some sense of the value of literature through to me via books and bloodline.

And finally I owe my journalism career to the us army, in a weird sort of way. I was drafted, lucked out and went to germany as a clerk in a nato hq near heidelberg, and got a masters degree in journalism from osu, paid for by the gi bill, when I got home after my two year obligation in the service.


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