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12/29/23 12:11 PM #13510    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Remember the problems brought on by the change to the year 2000, especially for computers.

Well get set for another event.  New Years Eve happens on   12 31 23.   As in 1-2-3-1-2-3.

On the other hand, my wish for 2024 is, I am looking forward to next summer which MAY be the last time I drive to Columbus.

 

By the way, has anyone seen or heard from Janie?

 


12/29/23 04:27 PM #13511    

 

David Mitchell

John,

You have no idea how tempted I am to post a comment about the book you pictured. But I think I'll pass.  


12/29/23 08:34 PM #13512    

 

Mark Schweickart

Mike -- I see that, being the dutiful English teacher you are, you went back and corrected your spelling error of my name. Thank you for that. However I don't think I can reciprocate regarding my pronunciation of your name. Dang it Glid, I can't seem to wrap my head around "McLeod" bring pronounced "McCloud," instead of what we knew you as way back when, which was "McGlid," although I suppose I could try to be less sloppy and say "McClid." I say, screw the correct Scottish ancestral pronunciations.  I certainly don't want people pronouncing my last name with the ancestral German way of making a "w" sound like a "v". (Unless of course I happen to be visiting Germany, in which case I must admit I enjoy being addressed as (what sounds like) "Herr SchVEYkart".)


12/30/23 10:58 AM #13513    

 

David Mitchell

Well, I guess it's time for me to reveal the correct pronunciation of my last name - with apologies to John Jackson, Johnny Scheaufele, Nina Osborne, Mary Ann (Nolan) Thomas, Tommy Swain, and Dave Barbour (and any ohter OLPers on the forum that I may have forgotten). Sorry I kept this from all of you. 

The name has roots in French Canada, with several long locational modifiers,

But we can stick to the short version - Michelle. 

Voila!

 

(I was told some enlightened great, great forfather - about 4 or 5 generations ago - re-branded himself "Mitchell" and along with his improved English, was thereafter hired for a higher paying supervisory job in a lumber mill in northern New Hampshire. French speaking cousins in Montreal were not amused) 

 

I'm going to keep this going - I think it gets kind of fun as it continues.

Then same forefather went and married some little orphan girl from Ireland and moved to Burlington, VT.  They had kids, including a son (my dad's father) Albert, who as a teenager used to skate across Lake Champlain to their rich aunt's house and pick up a lalrge bag full of Christmas presents for his silbings, then skate back home to Burlington with the gifts. Theye were rather poor and had few Christmas gifts of their own.

In 1903, grandpa Albert answered an ad in a national newspaper for a job, selling men's clothes in the (long ago closed) Boston Store in a far away place called Columbus, Ohio. He moved all the way to Columbus and took the job. After the Boston Store closed, Albert got a job at the "Union" department store in it's original building on North High Street, just a few blocks north of Broad and High. There he sold men's suits, shirts, ties, and accessoriesout  for almost 40 years. 

My dad explained to me how "The Union" always kept their workers on low pay scales. When times were good, they put the staff on a set hourly (low) wage. And when times were slow, they switched them to commission - so they could never really get ahead in life.

But my Grandma Margaret (the poor little Irish orphan) invested a couple thousand dollars in some lots over on Ackerman road and made a "killing" (about $5,000) so they were able to move from their home on 10th Ave (or 11th?) to an upper class neighborhood on 42 Acton Road. They had 5 kids - Dad was the "middle" kid.

As it happens, I went to work for "The Union" myself in the months between my (deliberate) flunking out at the University of Denver and my enlisrment into the Army - late fall and Christmas season of 1968. I had an interview with some guy in the downtown store who asked if by any chance I was Albert Mitchell's grandson. When I told him I was he said "you're hired" and abruptly closed his file. He had known grandpa Albert when he was a young "stock boy" years before.

So they assigned me to the Men's department at Northland shopping center, where I met my new department supervisor, an older man with a pencil mustache and bright scarf in his suit pocket. He also asked me if I was related to Albert Mitchell.  When I told him He was my grandfather, he went off about how he was trained as a boy by Grandpa Albert in the old downtown store and how fond his memory was. 

He explained the Grandpa Albert was so well liked and trusted that mothers would sent their teenage sons on the bus alone to "go ask for Albert Mitchell"  because they knew he was so trustworthy that thye could send them alone without accompaniment, and know that he would sell them just the rigth clothing, and never try to oversell them with more than they needed.  

I spent my three months trying to honor a grandfather I had never seen, but for whom I had gained a good deal of respect.

 


12/30/23 11:19 AM #13514    

 

David Mitchell

Did I miss something last night? 

It appears as if Ohio State's Offensive AND Defensive lines wissed the flight to Texas.

Or was the Coaching staff locked in the men's room?


12/30/23 11:28 AM #13515    

 

John Maxwell

Mark, befuddled? Now there's a nonword. My reference to Dylan was in reference to David's omitting the Beatles from some absurd claim about 60's music. I can't remember what it was but it rang a buzzer, like Paul Revere and the Raiders or Simon and Garfish wrote the greatest music then or something like that. Of course Mike ran with it like he was on a doomsday deadline and somehow got you involved by mentioning your name and here we are scratching our collective heads. So maybe I should flesh out the confusion about the reading backwords.
Because the letter press I operate is a Washington Press from 1858. Built in NYC by R.Hoe & Co. Of course with all letter presses one must develop the skill of reading backwards. And if one has difficulty reading,this becomes a monumental obsticle to overcome. In my presentation I try to amuse my listeners with an image of trying to read backwards by standing on their heads, closing one eye, blah blah. The point of it is that all you really need is a mirror to accomplish that difficult task. I chose to offer that particular bit of informationin in an amusing way to break up what would be a horribly dull and boring topic. Then I get into the hindsight of Johann Guetenburg's printing the Bible in Latin and being demonized by the Church for creating a the opportunity for just anyone to actually read the Bible. The Church did not approve that people who were not litergical scolars, interpreting the Word of God! The results of this was of course the dreaded Protestant Reformation. Boom! Then ... here we are. There is more to this...but you'll have to plan to come to the Liberty Printing Office. Then you can find out the origin of things like; "mind your "p's" & "q's","out of sorts", the California Job Case, uppercase, lowercase, "put to bed" and everyone's favorite, the brayer that is not to be confused with a Donkey. So, who's not having fun in their old age?

12/30/23 05:09 PM #13516    

 

David Mitchell

Jack,

Your post touches on a fascinating bit of history - Gutenburg and his Bible.

The Church had long worked to keep the population ignorant by not alllowing the Bible to be printed in the vernacular. But an addittional side of the story is the fact that an Englishman - William Tyndale - who had tried to print an English Bible, was forced to print it in Germany and smuggle it into England.

Ther is so much fascinating history on this topic, one could go weeks on this Forum with interesting facts.   


12/30/23 09:00 PM #13517    

 

Mark Schweickart

 

Dave -- I have commented before about how impressed I have been with the amount of detail your memory seems to be able to conjur up, whether it's about your own helicopter pilot experiences, or (even more impressive) details of your father's upbringing. I mean, damn man, I remember thinking, "This guy knows more about his father's past than I do about my own," and by that I mean my own life, not my father's, of which I know very little. And now, what do we get today, but a discourse on your grandfather's life for heaven's sake! How many of us could recount tales of our grandfathers skating across Lake Champlain with a bagload of Christmas presents, or of the amazing impact he had on customers and fellow workers alike while he worked at The Union Department Store, or how much his wife's first house cost, etc.? Not many of us, I would venture to guess.  Although, I must say, that I think you missed a good story-telling opportunity when you didn't point out the irony regarding the working conditions at a store called "The Union." Of course maybe you were just giving us credit for being smart enough to detect the irony on our own, like when you said, "The Union" always kept their workers on low pay scales." What was the IWW's (International Workers of the World's) catch-phrase – "One Big Union," wasn't it?

I can just hear you readers smirking, "What's that idiot Mark chuckling about over there in the corner? What's the matter with him? What can I say, I thought it was a funny choice of a store name that I never thought about before in this context.

And Jack -- Don't hold us in suspense. I think I can guess what much of your printing press lingo means, but what's a "California Job Case," or a "brayer,"  and what does "putting to bed" mean? C'mon, we don't have time to haul our asses to Greenfield Village to find out.


12/31/23 02:09 PM #13518    

 

David Mitchell

Mark,

These are stories my Dad told me about his father. Annd there were darn few of them. I never knew my grandfathers and only knew of  them from stories told by my Mom or Dad. I just thought the connection with Grandpa Albert and the "Union" store was interesting. I shopped in the old Union Store downtown a couple times with my mother as a boy, It was an attractive buidling of 4 stories at about Gay or Long and High - on the west side of High.

And the $5,000 was just Grandma's profit (a huge sum for a working class family at the time) - I'm sure they paid more than that for the house on Acton Rd.

My parents were both story tellers - especially my Mom. She and her family moved about 6 times before she was in High School (at North High School). 

 


12/31/23 05:03 PM #13519    

 

Michael McLeod

I usta be pensive. Now I'm ex-pensive.


12/31/23 05:55 PM #13520    

 

David Mitchell

I deletd that post. Sorry for imposing something too tragic for this Forum - especially today. 

 

I want to wish you all a Happy New Year !

And drive safe.


12/31/23 06:02 PM #13521    

 

David Mitchell

Ponder this;

Disney's special (Congressionaly granted ) 95 year copyright to the 6 minute film clip of the original "Steambaot Willie" (MIckey Mouse) expires in 2024.

Will Civilization survive? 


12/31/23 08:20 PM #13522    

 

Anne Devaney (Wilcheck)

Thank you to those wishing me a Happy Birthday 1/7/48. I'm one of the first of us to play those trombones 

Happy New Year everyone from the Northern Territory you Ohio.

 


12/31/23 09:13 PM #13523    

 

David Mitchell

Wow!

Talk about "Auld Lang Syne"

Those girls who moved in on us a few years late sure were cute!


01/01/24 12:36 AM #13524    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Dave, I worked in Accessories at The Union in Graceland for a couple summers and Christmas breaks. I remember when people would whisper that "Mr. Robert" (Levy) one of the owners entered the store and everyone quickly came to attention. 

I hope you are mending. It seems you've been in the hospital so long. Sorry I didn't send a card. Get well soon!

HAPPY 2024 to all!!


01/01/24 09:45 AM #13525    

 

David Mitchell

Janie,

 

Interesting small world. I actually didn't know The Union had a Graceland branch.

 

As I enter my 9th week in "Captivity", I think I'm on the home stretch - maybe two weeks before they release me. Getting stronger but might still need a walker and new handle bars in the home shower. And I think my daughter Megan (my "case manager/savior") will fly down for a few days to help me get adjusted.        

I will go home to a house, cleaner by far than anytime in years (daughters and neighbors have worked like bees), an empty refigerator, and no car. So lots of things on the "to do" list 

Recent events - not just my accident - have been a lesson in what we take for granted in life.  

So this Happy New Year comes with special meanig for me, my neighbors, my fellow workers, and friends. 

 


01/01/24 11:13 AM #13526    

 

Michael McLeod

Mark: Not sure if it ever came up way back when but you may or may not know that I speak ein bischien deutch. My grandparents on my mother's side were german and I was stationed in Heidelberg after I was drafted and lived off base in a room rented to us by a German family. My pronunciation is ser gut, or so I have been told, but my vocabulary is quite limited. 

 


01/01/24 12:57 PM #13527    

 

John Maxwell

Ah ha!
Mike,
Always suspected you a German spy.

Marq,
A brayer is a rubber ink roller, and shouldn't be mistaken for a donkey. You roll the brayer in the ink then roll it on the chase. That is the type and any graphic contained in the rectangle on the bed. The bed is the platform where, that which is to be printed, rests. When I discuss these features to the guests, I demonstrate the funtionality of the machine, all the while singing its praises of durability and elegance. As machines go it is quite impressive. That's the Washington press built in 1858. I've come to find out that the Washington press was once owned by Samual Clemmons aka Mark Twain. It also fell of a wagon into the Missouri River and from there it ended going through th Panama Canal after it first opened. It truly deserves a standing ovation for durability. Especially since I've been operating it.

01/01/24 02:51 PM #13528    

 

David Mitchell

Mike, 

Ich auch.


01/02/24 01:31 PM #13529    

 

David Mitchell

OMG!

I just woke up from a night full of nightmares.  

First, I had a dream that Congress came back into session and actually passed a bill.

Then I dreamed that there would never be another cable TV episode featuring some small local one-of-a-kind barbeque restauarant ! 

Then I dreamed they brought my lunch tray in and the food was warm and edible -  silly me!

 

Oh but not to worry. Thats a pork chop - sliced extra thin and cooked to shoe leather. Too tought to cut with the plastic utensils, so I held it by hand and bit off a few pieces.

Everything is gonna be okay!

 


01/02/24 06:22 PM #13530    

Lawrence Foster

From Dec 9 - 26 I was on a trip with my daughter to Germany.  My daughter posted a lot of our photos on FB so some of you may have seen these already.  With the recent talk here of Gutenberg's printing I thought I would share these two photos.  These are in Mainz just outside the entrance to the Gutenberg Museum that we visited.    

 

I told Becci that this chair was the "seat of knowledge."   It is an appropriate chair for me to sit in for 2 reasons: my career was as a librarian and I am a smart-ass.  As you can tell from that last statement my social filters have not completely recovered from jet-lag but they are getting better.  Hope everyone had a good Christmas and Happy New Year.  

 


01/03/24 07:45 AM #13531    

Joseph Gentilini

Larry, your trip to Germany with your daughter sounds like a trip of a lifetime.  Glad you had the opporunity to do this.  joe


01/03/24 11:59 AM #13532    

 

Michael McLeod

Larry: vielen dank for that photo and for rekindling the deutschland ties among a few of us. Apart from that it's a stunning scupture - such a simple yet brilliant inspiration. Just Ausgetzeitnet!  -- there's a word that sounds like what it means (in English, "outstanding") when you say it out loud, with feeling.

Again, I'm a kraut on my mother's side and had the good fortune to be stationed at a Nato HQ near Heidelberg after being drafted way back when. Our daughter was born over there and has dual citizenship. We lived off base in a basement apartment rented to us by the German family that lived upstairs. It was quite the adventure. So Danka sehr for the memories you just rekindled. And I apologize for any mispellings as I tinkered here with my pigeon deutsch. It's been a while but it's fun to truck out the little I was able to scrape together and, harder still, to remember. I'm no linguist but it just feels like a very dramatic language. I mean, we go to the bathroom. Germans go to die badenzimmer!

Anyway I am jealous. Sounds like you had a great trip.

 

 


01/03/24 08:45 PM #13533    

Lawrence Foster

Joe G - Yes, this was the trip of a lifetime for me.  I never had expected to be back in Germany after living there as a child from 1950-53.  Like Mike noted about himself, my father also was stationed there.  

Mike - I also lived in Heidelberg and my sister Mary was born there 2 1/2 months after we arrived.  When we left in June 1953 Mom was again 2 1/2 months pregnant with my young brother Dan.  When we returned to the States and had a family reunion in Delaware, Ohio.  My mothr told me that  all the family relatives told her "Oh Louise, it's been 3 years since we saw you and you haven't changed a bit!"  

Here are a few photos of Heidelberg that might bring back good memories for you Mike.

The Heidelberg Castle as seen from the market square.  Here is the Wiki link to the history of the castle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidelberg_Castle 

 

Inside the castle courtyard. 

A wine "tun" which is a vat and this one can hold that can hold over 58,000 gallons of wine!  This was made in 1751.  Look at the very top of the vat and you will see my daughter and me.   

Another view of the wine tun to give a different perspective.  

Looking out over the city and the Neckar River.  We lived on the other side of the river to the left of the bottom of the mountain.

The house we lived in on 42 Ufer Strasse (River Street).

 

 

  


01/04/24 01:42 PM #13534    

 

David Mitchell

 Larry,     

What an intersting story of your "roots". Never knew that before. Bet you had an emotional rush.

But I hope you two didn't finish he entire "tun" of wine. 

I too have fond memories of that gorgeous castle on the banks of the Neckar River. But I only spent a few hours there as part of a 6-day (fast moving) bus tour through southern Germany at the end of my 8 week summer in Salzburg, Austria.  

(also visited Mainz - so brief all I can remember is the famous cathedral)  


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