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08/22/23 08:03 PM #13067    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Bob B.,

Some men with grey beards try to achieve that Hemingway look. But, in your case, I think you have accomplished a look more in step with your skills as a photographer: Ansel Adams!

Jim

 


08/23/23 02:15 PM #13068    

 

Michael McLeod

I got all charged up about some changes to public education down here in fla and posted a story I wrote a few years ago to my facebook page. I also put it on the user forum since it's long and touches on politics and kind of epitomizes how I feel about history being there for us not to try and downplay or forget or be all defensive and political about. It's there for us to learn from. 

 


08/23/23 04:27 PM #13069    

 

Harold Clark

bob

i like the look


08/24/23 10:26 AM #13070    

 

John Jackson

Bob and Harold - I'd say you two are aging gracefully.  Keep up the good work!


08/24/23 04:56 PM #13071    

 

Mark Schweickart

Mike -- Thanks for posting on the User Forum your article about the 1920 Ocoee race riot.  I had never heard of this particular event, which surprised me because I had done quite a bit of research on events like this when I was gathering info for my attempt at an historical novel that covered the oft-forgotten 1943 race riot in Detroit as well as all of the crazy racially inspired maliciousness that was visited on the Freedom Riders in 1961. So thank you for your very detailed description of this probably-even-more-forgotten event from down there in your neck of the woods. Instead of passing legislation designed to further erase these kind of events from our collective consciousness, we need more journalists like yourself writing these kind of articles. Great job. 


08/24/23 07:44 PM #13072    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks Mark.

I look back and I think how indelible stories like that are for me.

Going out and actually seeing people like that old man who lost his home and his family because of racism rather than just hearing about events like that or reading about them. It's an entirely different experience seeing things in three dimensions first hand as opposed to seeing something on the television screen or reading words on a page. It has been a blessing that I used to take for granted and it's only recently that I've been thinking about what a different person I am simply because for so many things - bad things and good things, bad people and heroic people and terribly terribly wounded people, facing issues that are a lot more complicated in real life than they are in the stories people tell - I was sitting in a front seat. Or more like being up on stage with them, if only for a little while. This may sound corny but in the end, thinking back, it makes me love the good ones more -- and  all in all I ran into far more good ones than bad ones.      

 


08/24/23 10:08 PM #13073    

 

David Mitchell

Ditto Mark

 

And Mike, You would find a few of my frends in a local all-black AME Church quite interesting. I have heard a few stories that are perhaps not so harsh as loss of property, yet utterly shocking due to how recent they were. I met an elderly lady who's son returned to his home in nearby Hampton County from service as a Medical Doctor and Lt. Commander in the Navy, but was required to take the "intelligence test" in order to qualify for voting. The "Intelligence test" was a large glass jar filled with some sort of beans - and he was required to "count" the number of beans.

He "flunked" (of course) and was refused registration for local elections. He moved his wife out of state after that. This was in the early 1980's ! 

Another older gentleman in that same church - a Mr. Jacob Martin - whom I know slightly better - was refused entry into the university of South Carolina by Senator Strom Thurmond a few years before James Merideth was refused admission to Mississippi in1960. Like so many Black Southerners, Mr. Martin moved North to find better work, and served as a police officer in Detroit for 30 years before returning to Bluffton.

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Of course no one will forget the 2015 "Charleston 9" murders at Mother Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston. I attended a memorial service here in Bluffton at this same Black church and there were more White people than Blacks in the church. Mostly because that same young Black pastor - Clemente Pinkney - who was one of the nine, had served as pastor in this church for a few years before moving up to Chareston. (I regret having never met him - I missed a couple of years in my annual visit to that local church.)

But my young assitsant pastor (and young buddy), took his oldest son to the memorial service at Mother Emmanuel (the AME "Cathedral") in Chalreston - a packed church with many celbrated names - and described it as the most up-beat, joyful celebrations he had ever attended. 

They really know how to sing and express their faith when their hearts are hurting.

 

 

 


08/25/23 07:46 AM #13074    

 

Michael McLeod

I hear ya Dave. 

Had to laugh when I saw the quote from Putin about that outspoken Wagner mercenary honcho whose plane mysteriously went down.

Putin said he was talented but "made mistakes".

I guess we all know what his biggest one was.

I kept wondering why they let him live as long as they did.


08/25/23 09:35 AM #13075    

 

John Jackson

Mike,

There were ten people on the plane - what were the other nine thinking when they agreed to get on a plane with Progozhin?


08/25/23 09:58 AM #13076    

 

Michael McLeod

Ten people who made the same mistake! what are the chances?


08/25/23 11:17 AM #13077    

 

John Jackson

Surprising that the assassination method was quick and painless - that's not Putin's style.


08/25/23 02:40 PM #13078    

 

Michael McLeod

professional courtesy, no doubt. wasn't like he was some troublesome intellectual.


08/25/23 06:40 PM #13079    

 

David Mitchell

Did I just read somewhere that both wings came off at the same time? 

What a strange "coincidence" !


08/26/23 01:07 PM #13080    

Janie Albright (Blank)

Strange coincidence indeed! I am certain there is a special place in Hell reserved for Putin. 


08/26/23 04:46 PM #13081    

 

Michael McLeod

yeah right. not much of a coincidence if you picked out a big enough bomb. or bombs. would love to know exactly what they used. If they were timed blasts, or if - I'm sure with how sophisticated electronics are these days that you could simply have the explosives on board and send a signal from somewhere along the flight path to set off the blasts. I've also seen "adulterated fuel" suggested as a possibility.

I'll keep reading.


08/26/23 08:28 PM #13082    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Anybody ever watch the series "Air Disasters"  on the Smithsonian Channel ? This disaster will probably not make it but it sure would be interesting to get those two "black boxes" - the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder - and have an actual investigation of this event. Usually such investigations are conducted jointly by the country where it occurred (in this case, Russia) and the country in which the aircraft was manufactured.  l believe Embraer's home office is Brazil. ​​​​​​

Jim


08/27/23 11:13 AM #13083    

 

Michael McLeod

Well usually the simplest explanation is the best one. conclusions can be drawn from the film of the plane falling, or half of it, anyway, and the fact that it was coming straight down and not in multiple pieces but with the fuselage largely intact. Perhaps Mr. Mitchell would have a point of view. He always does, as it seems to me.  I say a bomb, and it wouldn't have to have been a big one, from the inside - actuallly I think that's what the vast majority of the experts are assuming from the evidence.

In the meantime, this from the washington post: The first paragraph is pretty telling. 

 

 

Aviation experts broadly agreed Thursday that the business jet reportedly carrying Wagner Group leader Yevgeniy Prigozhin and other top members of the mercenary outfit experienced a catastrophic structural failure when it crashed Wednesday and evidence points away from a simple mechanical problem or human error.

 

At least 10 people, allegedly including Yevgeniy Prigozhin, died in the crash of a Wagner-linked private plane outside Moscow on Aug. 23. (Video: Unknown via Storyful)

Two U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss preliminary findings, told The Washington Post on Thursday that early intelligence pointed to the possibility of an onboard explosion. They said there is no indication so far that the aircraft was downed by a missile.

All 10 people onboard the private Embraer jet were killed after it crashed northwest of Moscow, Russian aviation officials said. Pentagon spokesman Brig. Gen. Patrick S. Ryder said it’s “likely” that Prigozhin was one of those killed. Russian President Vladimir Putin appeared to eulogize the mercenary leader on Thursday, but stopped short of confirming his death, calling him a “talented person” who “made serious mistakes.”

Jeff Guzzetti, a former accident investigator with the Federal Aviation Administration and National Transportation Safety Board, said it’s clear that there was a “catastrophic, in-flight, structural failure — during cruise flight — of a modern business jet.”

“And that just does not happen unless there’s some sort of trigger to it,” Guzzetti said. “The aircraft is not flying in those videos. It is just falling like a Coke bottle.”

After reviewing video of the falling aircraft, photos of the wreckage and public flight tracking data, he said the evidence shows “all the earmarks of an explosion on board.”

Several things could have caused the sudden and violent end to a flight cruising otherwise at a consistent speed and altitude, he said: a bomb aboard, preflight sabotage to weaken the plane’s structure, or some kind of structural failure leading the wings or tail to pull apart from the rest of the plane, causing the fuel tanks to explode.

 

Satellite imagery from Aug. 24 shows the plane's tail and the rest of the wreckage of the aircraft reportedly carrying Wagner boss Yevgeniy Prigozhin in Russia. (Planet Labs PBC)

Sidney Dekker, a director of the Safety Science Innovation Lab at Griffith University in Brisbane, Australia, said it is unlikely the plane crashed due to mechanical failure, because the wing seemed ripped from the craft’s main body. There are two ways to do that, he said: strike the plane with a projectile or bomb it from the inside.

“It would be exceedingly unlikely for a mechanical event to disable a jet like this that a wing would actually fall off,” Dekker said. “I can’t even recall the last time that that happened to a certified airplane. Even if you stop maintaining it, the wings do not fall off.”

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Individuals posting on Telegram channels supportive of Wagner noted what appeared to be holes in a wing of the plane, speculating that they could have been caused by blast fragments, shrapnel or submunitions — but aviation analysts warned that it’s difficult to conclusively say what caused them.

 

Wreckage of the private jet linked to Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeniy Prigozhin is seen near the crash site on Aug. 24. (Marina Lystseva/Reuters)

Photos of the crash scene and satellite imagery showed that debris from the plane fell in at least two distinct areas, with the cockpit section and the tail section separated by about 1½ miles. While the plane spiraled to the ground, its fuselage tore apart in midair, videos of the crash showed.

CS “Raghu” Raghuraman, a senior analyst from Janes All the World’s Aircraft and a fast-jet pilot, said that, based on the available evidence, the catastrophic damage was probably not caused by a missile. He cited the tail section separation and the lack of apparent damage marks from a missile explosion near that section.

Russia’s elite draws one lesson from downed plane: Cross Putin and die

Several other experts also said they did not see evidence of either a surface-to-air missile launch or a missile impact.

Tom Karako, the director of the Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the possible holes in one of the plane’s wings could have been caused by an explosion but that there was not enough evidence to say what kind. He noted the lack of any missile trail in the videos showing the plane’s fall from the sky.

Guzzetti noted that Russia has excellent accident-investigation capabilities. He said it would be easy to tell from the physical evidence if a bomb had gone off, noting the unique signatures left by explosives. After a bomb, jagged pieces of metal can open up like roses, he said, and conclusions can be drawn from the way the metal melts near the point of an explosion.

“We’ll see how transparent and informative Russia will be with describing the findings of their investigation and with providing descriptions of the evidence,” Guzzetti said.

Shane Harris, Ellen Nakashima and Missy Ryan contributed reporting.

 


08/27/23 06:03 PM #13084    

 

David Mitchell

The only thing I can add to the conversation is that a "fixed-wing" aircraft tend to fly better when both wings remain attached.

 

Oh, that, and the fact that it appears Putin has signed his own death warrant. The Wagner group has put out the word amongst themselves. I think now it's only a matter of time.

One can only hope. 

 


08/27/23 07:29 PM #13085    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Periodic Pictures from Past and Present: Fifty Years of Photographs

Since we are discussing the dark topic of the recent plane "crash" in Russia I thought I would post a few shots which I converted to monochromatic (black and white) from the original color photos.

Once again I shall reference Paul Simon's song "Kodachrome" which has some deep meaning (you can Google that if so desired) but I will take it literally from a purely photographic viewpoint.

One line from those lyrics says "And everything looks worse in black and white". Well, maybe so, but monochrome pictures do have a certain air about them in that they force the viewer to focus on shapes and textures. To that I would add that many also project a sense of mood and, in some cases, mystery.

There are certain subjects that also lend themselves to this type of format, even in landscapes. There can be beauty in starkness. 

 

January, 2008:  View from Above, Cripple Creek and the Continental Divide

September, 2009:  Sprague Lake, Rocky Mountain National Park:

September, 2010: View from Above of Teller County Snow and Clouds:

March, 2010:   Almost Eight Years after the Hayman Wildfire:

Jim

 

 

 

 

 


08/28/23 12:43 AM #13086    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

Just don't spread it around. But I am not sure it is top secret. Seems to me I read that in a book someplace.

 

Jim,

Great Black and Whites. Ansel would be proud of you.


08/28/23 11:41 AM #13087    

 

Mark Schweickart

Jim -- great photos. I especially like the second one (Sprague Lake) because of your composition. You draw our eye into the center foreground with the beam of light across the center of the lake which then takes us across the lake to the mountains in the background, which in turn are reflected on the lake's surface on either side of your central beam. Very cool. And I am guessing looks even cooler in B/W than it did in color. What does Paul Simon know?

Dave -- Even if Putin has messed with the wrong guys this time, as you imply, I am doubtful of a particularly good outcome, given the nature of this wacko Wagner mercenary movement, who are charging around the world from Ukraine to Syria, to Africa to who-knows-where, wreaking their havoc far and wide.  Let's not forget that they take their name from the idea that supposedly Hitler's favorite music was that of Richard Wagner. Hmmm? By which, of course, I am pointing not at the music, but as to who was the number one fan that they are embracing with their choice of name. Out of the frying pan and into the fire, as the saying goes. Nonetheless, it will be interesting to see what happens next. 

Oh, and Mike -- Good luck with that hurricane heading your way tomorrow. Stay safe. 


08/28/23 01:42 PM #13088    

 

David Mitchell

Agreed Mark.

But I think it is within their capability to get him somehow, somewhere.


08/28/23 07:44 PM #13089    

 

David Mitchell

Anybody been in touch with Tom or Tess McKeon today?  I texted them a few hours ago asking about Idalia. Clearwater appears to be right in its path. We are due for it to arrive here Wedesday night, but I expect it to weaken by then. 


08/29/23 12:15 AM #13090    

 

Michael McLeod

thanks mark not my first and won't be my last. live in a cinderblock one story home that makes a pretty good bunker. tho losing power is never fun


08/29/23 10:11 AM #13091    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Mr. Maxwell.  I'm wondering how you are doing.Six tornadoes means you had good odds of some damages; either trees or flooding.  My brother and I drove up Thursday tovisit relative, but left for Columbus around 6:30 P.M..  My one niece, who lives just North of Monroe, lost a few trees.  Her neighbor had a little moree damage, they use to live in a two story house - it is now a one story.  Still about 400,000 without power?

 


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