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08/10/21 11:38 AM #9781    

 

Michael McLeod

It's about time somebody sent Frank to the office.


08/10/21 11:13 PM #9782    

 

David Mitchell

Mary Margaret,

I am unable to figure out how to enter a response to your "off Forum " video of young Doctor Dan Stock of Mt. Vernon, Indiana, declaring that masks and vaccinations are both useless. There seems to be no way to add a response to your post.

You may know by now that this video has gone viral. But it has also drawn a response from another Physicain who is honest and and candid enough to absolutey agree with Dr. Stock on several points, but then goes on to completely debunking with him on several of his main claims, claiming he doesn't know what he is talking about. 

And so the argument continues. 

 

Anyone wishing to see the video may look on the following You Tube video.

 "A Doctor Responds To That Mt. Vernon School Board Video".

(he is Dr. Zubin Damania - a Stanford trained hospital doctor)




08/11/21 10:35 AM #9783    

 

Michael McLeod

Ok I know it's late in life but I want to have a new career and get into retail.

The only reason is that I was just thinking of a perfect name for a company that would sell nothing but really cool socks.

And the name of that company would be: "Socks to Be You."

Whaddya think? I need investors. This offer won't last long.


08/11/21 11:05 AM #9784    

 

Mark Schweickart

Mike-- Or how about "Sock It To Me"


08/11/21 11:14 AM #9785    

 

Michael McLeod

Mark:

Thanks for your suggestion. I'm happy to bring you on board as an investor. Since nobody under the age of 50 will be familiar with it, I am thinking of using the motto you suggest for our geriatric line of support hose. 


08/11/21 11:50 AM #9786    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Dave, I posted that video to the User Forum, only because I felt perhaps some Message Forum readers might be tiring of the debate.  But, since you brought it out, I will simply reply that over the past 18 months, I have watched over and over and over the State (social media technocrats, universities, print media, etc.) delete, ban and censor information and individuals that do not correspond with the State's agenda, and that should make us all question WHY.  As a tax-paying American citizen, I and others still have the freedom to make personal medical choices based on information that  have been diligently researched and reflected upon. I continue to respect and to recognize your right to do the same. 

"Only the governing elites can look you in the eye with a straight face and force experimental injections on you because masks didn’t work while simultaneously forcing masks on you because the injections didn’t work."


08/11/21 11:52 AM #9787    

 

Frank Ganley

Bon I tried it and I got bupkas! Bull to think that Jan 6 was an insurrection from the trump supporters is pure. Excuse the pun but that's pure bull! Where were their guns or any other kind of weapon? Why only 4 arrests of old grandmothers from tampa fl. ? Why did I see masked intruders exciting the crown?!!! Why was there Helios etc at BLM and antifa riots? Just look at Portland and seattle where there buildings were burned, the police station burned or was that they were trumpers disguised s BLM  and antifa. How is that the entire crowd of Americans did not riot and go after BLM. Antifa members and other dissenters. Have you ever seen trumpers riot at their gatherings? No but you saw BLM and antifa s there armed, masked and instigating riots. Did trumpers burn down the church across the street from the Capitol building? It was BLM and antifa fighter!  ask you haters assume that trumpers were going to over throw the government, with what weapons? All of you libbers and Biden supporters are  all believers and followers of and support CRT, which is another wing of socialism! Socialism of any kind is communism.!!!! How am I, you and any other person today could be held accountable for sins in the past. Yes lkilling Native American was deplorable but those actions were believed to be the only way to expansion of the nation but today it is viewed As Despicable! Yes slavery the same way except in the north! Who freed the slaves, the north or the south? The south of course, mainly democrats. Did democrats vote for anything to improve the lot of the oppressed! No never. But along comes welfare intended to shut up those who were oppressed and they'd be taken care of. Note defend these actions of every congress that voted against voting, against being citizens or unable to buy property. You complain that having a picture I'd is suppressing! How is that? In today's society one must have a picture ID for everything. Travel by any means of transportation a photo I'd is required. I am remodeling my entire house. Along with that is an inordinate of trash that require a trip to the dump and what was I required to do in order to throw this mass amount of drywall and tiles and cement. A photo I'd ! Cash your paycheck easy with direct deposit but a photo id is required. So under to vote the nation require a photo I'd. How is that suppressing the vote. I suggest you listen to yourselves and your Congress who find that requirement suppressive. It's not !! So to wrap it up all your high and mighty dems give all your money to these poor people. All of Hollywood who is for this most part   Donate all your  money to these causes.  I really want to know how you bleeding hearts think this is fair. I can't wait to hear the opposition defend this! Oh by the way, how's your gas prices,? Thanks Joe for shutting down the pipe lines! Have a great day and I am fervently praying for you to be overcome these "progressive" policies and start with thoughts of common sense

 


08/11/21 12:03 PM #9788    

 

Michael McLeod

Just be grateful, Frank, that you live in a country where you can unload all that trash whenever the spirit moves you.


08/11/21 02:21 PM #9789    

 

Michael McLeod

Such a sad mess down here.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPr1_aX8v4I


08/11/21 03:52 PM #9790    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Where is Kamala Harris? 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2021/08/11/border-agents-take-pictures-overcrowded-facilities-n2593903

 

 


08/11/21 05:23 PM #9791    

 

Michael McLeod

Day two. New grade school teacher to My Significant Other: "You guys didn't tell me it was going to be this hard."

My Significant Other: "Well, it is."

I'll have more later.


08/11/21 06:10 PM #9792    

 

Frank Ganley

Such a Shame that you (MMcLeod) and your little band of commies brand anything other than the garbage you spout hear nothing but what you think is right and the rest of us have nothing of value to contribute. Defend  CRT , the shut down of the wall, the spiraling cost of gas or anything made from oil byproducts. Since you Lord and savior "Biden theStupid"of your way of thinking want more taxes. None of you I imagine don't play golf, too bad but before now , golf grips were 2 or 3 bucks now with oil going thru the roof ! They were about $3 to 5 but today they start at 6 and go skyward. Thanks for that. I  To say inflation is non existent pardon me!  So rise above the common thought that you have that everything is bad if it's not your thought instead of just saying Frank that's trash ! Why don't you discuss! why don't you give us an idea as to what you would propose to make American life better Socialism,I don't think so ,communism well that's socialism, progressive living I'm going with that's communism to0. and CRt what is that ? I or we owe somebody something that happened 400 years ago ! Crt says I did it, you did it and we should give reparation to those that weren't even here before then and for me to pay for someone that I had nothing to do with is beyond my belief ! you however believe that all our wealth should be spread around and everything be fair and equal well no that's not how capitalism works you get paid for what you accomplish , for what you do,  for what you make , not get paid for doing nothing where does that get us more in debt no contribution from those .no taxes from those people !!what my Social Security is taxed is their welfare check taxed, no! I paid taxes on my Social Security and now I'm being taxed on it again !where is that fair?next where is it for someone to be on welfare and all these other programs that you lefties have created that a person on welfare or just coming into the country get paid more money then I get paid on my Social Security account where is that fair ! defend that , how do we stop that or should we just contribute all of our money so that everyone has a dollar well I don't think that's gonna work so do all you little Commies out there and you know who you are try to discuss not just the say everything we want or the standards we want! Defend open borders but don't allow qualified immigrants from europe defend that or are you in favor of that as it might mean you committees will always be in charge. I've been vaccinated have any of them, defend that. And yes My Mcleod I am glad I live in America and would like it to remain so. I am glad I can say anything by law but not by you little goose steppers. 
Good bless Donald Trump 


08/11/21 08:37 PM #9793    

 

Michael Boulware

Frank,

What you write is divisive and bitter. The brave Washington policemen testified that the January 6 riots did not involve Black Lives Matter or Antifa. All of the people that have been arrested carried Trump flags and signs, they even used them as weapons. I am not a "commie" and neither is McLeod. The problem is that Trumpers can not admit defeat and won't accept defeat.

Joe Biden is our president and will be until the next election. If you want a change; campaign!!!! Name calling only creates animosity

By the way, you seem to like Social Security; that is a socialst program that has been successful and popular. Does that make you a "commie"?

 


08/11/21 10:33 PM #9794    

 

Michael McLeod

Frank:

You had me at golf grips. Case closed. I have no defense. I turned in my party ticket. Or whatever they give you when you're a commie.

I will say I am eternally grateful for social security. We lucked out. The way it looks now, future generations will not be so fortunate.

As for weapons on Jan. 6, 39 defendants have been accused of wielding "deadly or dangerous weapons" including tasers, tomahawks, crowbars, flagpoles, knives, an ice ax, a stun gun, baseball bats, fire extinguishers (?????), a wooden club and chemical spray. 

Not sure whether a scaffold and a hangman's noose counts as a weapon. 

On the other hand I'm sure a lot of people, perhaps even the majority, went to DC thinking it was going to be a peaceful protest.

Honestly, that debate will come and go. Of all the thing you make reference to, the most important one entails your apparent and quite typical dismissal of the fact that the planet really is in peril. The last guy clearly didn't give a crap. Biden clearly does. Jabber all you want but our time on earth is about up. It would be kind of us to consider future generations.

 


08/12/21 12:42 AM #9795    

 

Michael McLeod

Mark: you only wish you could write a song like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrEySnGXRJ8


08/12/21 11:16 AM #9796    

Lawrence Foster

From mid-July through early August my wife and I spent time in Redwood City, California visiting my son Eric and his family.  The two grandsons are 4 and 2 years old and are quite a bundle of fun and energy for this old man.  They did go to their Montessori pre-school and day-care sites just not full time while we were visiting.  And there was nap time too - for them and me!  I'm sure you can guess who needed the naps more. 

We watched a lot of the Olympic swimming and the boys got wound up and cheered "Merica!  Merica" like their dad was doing.  Eric was a swimmer in high school and college and though not doing regular competitions nowadays he still works out that way.  I did hear Eric tell a story about the time, maybe 20 years ago, he swam in a race against this young kid named Michael Phelps.  I'll save that story for another post. 

But those times when the boys had their nap/quiet time, and I was not napping, I did some drawings.  Since I was in travel status I took only a few pencils (mechanical, #2, #6, and one carbon) a shading stump, an eraser, a box of 8 Crayola colored pencils, and paper.  

The dolphin and the cardinal were based on jigsaw puzzle pieces (for 2 year olds consisting of two pieces each).  Then I did a pencil drawing of the Monument Valley National Park from an image I found online.  After doing it in pencil I scaned it, printed it off and then colored the scan.  The colored image was more of a test to see how various colors might look.  I will probably keep the black and white pencil drawing as is and then just re-do it in color.  I suspect I will do it in colored pencil but I may also give it a shot in watercolor or acrylics.  I'll see how it goes.  

I find that in the hours I spend doing art that I get lost in the shapes, designs, and colors of the world around me and on the paper.  Those hours are calming and comforting.  I hope this art work can be the same for you.  Maybe not for hours but just a minute or even a moment can be enjoyable. 

 

     

 


08/12/21 12:21 PM #9797    

 

Frank Ganley

Bull, sorry to bunch you all together but as long as you are supporting a president, Vice President and the Democratic Congress who are all hell bent on changing America into a socialist state I'm sorry but these people ARE trying to change the make up of hope America works! If you think illegal aliens should receive any kind of benefit just by crossing the souther border in droves you and your group are trying to bankrupt America. Where these illegals are given hotel rooms, meals and money before being shuffled off to most cities and states make you a socialist, these people are put ahead of vets, wounded vets and homeless vets. After working most of my life since 1964 at scioto country club and was able to retire I was able to receive my social security benefits. This is not an entitlement but a savings plan to help insure we have something for out "golden age" note it is being eaten up by your government.  Bull when you said "Biden the idiot" was our president ,I will revert back to one of the greatest presidents of our life you all chimed in with he's not our president, karma is a bitch. Note not one of you who has commented has done nothing to defend your position on the items I put forth. I want to know why these are great programs and what would you do to make America greater. Amazing how the riots on Jan 6. Were just trumpers supporters. I'm sure the riots in the streets were populated by antifa members who are never prosecuted, cute Portland and seattle. It's ok to burn your city down and nothing happens to any of them. And yes I am bitter from h having to endure 4 years of disrespect to my president, the complete tear down of everything he accomplished for our nation. So conclusion please enlighten me on the questions I left for all of you to answer. Then we can discuss

 


08/12/21 12:35 PM #9798    

 

David Mitchell

Larry,

Thanks for showing drawings of Monument Valley in southern Utah - one of my favorite places on earth.


08/12/21 01:32 PM #9799    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Thank you for the calming sketches, Larry!  The only art talent I had ended at age 3!!  The standards were pretty low back then!smiley


08/12/21 02:01 PM #9800    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Larry,

Nice sketches! Love the detail you do in your drawings and the one of Monument Valley is a prime example.

Jim


08/12/21 02:06 PM #9801    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

This article was written in 1991.....what stage do you believe America is in 30 years later?                   

  
Doomsayers for many years have been predicting the decline and fall of this country. And while many of these short-term predictions have proved inaccurate, there is some truth to the prevailing belief that this nation will fall like every great nation before it. Apart from revival and reformation, this nation is destined to decline.

The problem with many of these doomsayers is that while their prognosis is right, their diagnosis is wrong. Yes, the future is bleak. But our problem is not ultimately political, economic, or social, as these doomsayers would have us believe. The decline of this nation (just as the decline of every other nation) is due to spiritual factors. The political, economic, and social problems we encounter are the symptoms of the spiritual deterioration of a nation.

Just as there are spiritual principles that influence the life of an individual, so there are political-spiritual principles that govern the life of a nation. And though we may feel that these are obscure and difficult to discern, in reality they are visible to anyone willing to look at the record of history.

Our problem is that we don’t really learn from history. George Santayana said that “those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.” The philosopher Hegel said, “What experience and history teach us is this: that people and government never have learned anything from history or acted on principles deduced from it.” Or as Winston Churchill said, “The one thing we have learned from history is that we don’t learn from history.”

The refrains that are often heard are: “It can’t happen here,” or “Our country is different.” But the reality is that nations are born and die just like individuals. Their longevity may exceed the average person’s lifespan. But the reality is that nations also die.

History has shown that the average age of the great civilizations is around two hundred years. Countries like Great Britain exceed the average while other countries like the United States are just now reaching the average age.

Each of the great civilizations in the world passed through a series of stages from their birth to their decline to their death. Historians have listed these in ten stages.

The first stage moves from bondage to spiritual faith. The second from spiritual faith to great courage. The third stage moves from great courage to liberty. The fourth stage moves from liberty to abundance. The fifth stage moves from abundance to selfishness. The sixth stage moves from selfishness to complacency. The seventh stage moves from complacency to apathy. The eighth stage moves from apathy to moral decay. The ninth stage moves from moral decay to dependence. And the tenth and last stage moves from dependence to bondage.

These are the ten stages through which the great civilizations have gone. Notice the progression from bondage to liberty back to bondage. The first generation throws off the shackles of bondage only to have a later generation through apathy and indifference allow itself to once again be enslaved.

This is the direction this and every other country is headed. The book of Judges shows that the nation of Israel passed through these same stages. And this country will do the same unless revival and reformation break out and reverse the inexorable decline of this nation.

The Cycle of Nations

In his book The End of Christendom, Malcolm Muggeridge makes this powerful observation. He says:

I conclude that civilizations, like every other human creation, wax and wane. By the nature of the case there can never be a lasting civilization anymore than there can be a lasting spring or lasting happiness in an individual life or a lasting stability in a society. It’s in the nature of man and of all that he constructs to perish, and it must ever be so. The world is full of the debris of past civilizations and others are known to have existed which have not left any debris behind them but have just disappeared.

He goes on to say that

…whatever their ideology may be, from the Garden of Eden onwards such dreams of lasting felicity have cropped up and no doubt always will. But the realization is impossible for the simple reason that a fallen creature like man though capable of conceiving perfection and aspiring after it, is in himself and in his works forever imperfect. Thus he is fated to exist in the no man’s land between the perfection he can conceive and the imperfection that characterizes his own nature and everything he does.

Nations rise and nations fall. Every nation has followed this progression from bondage to bondage. The nations of this century will be no different. But let us not accept the Marxist notion that these are fixed and intractable laws of history. Christians can point to unusual times when revival has redirected the inexorable decline of a civilization. In the Old Testament, Jonah saw revival postpone God’s judgment of Nineveh. In the sixteenth century, Martin Luther and John Calvin saw a Protestant Reformation transform Europe. And even in the history of the United States the First and Second Great Awakenings changed individuals and our society.

But apart from God’s intervention, nations will decline and eventually pass off the scene. Much of the Old Testament records the history of the nation of Israel. It passed through these same stages and so will every country in the world.

As Christians we must recognize that nations will rise and fall just as individuals will be born and die. Our civilization will not last indefinitely, but will eventually pass off the scene. Only God’s Word endures forever. We should not put our trust in the things of this world for they are destined for destruction. Instead, we should put our faith in God and His word.

The Decline of the Family

Nations most often fall from within, and this fall is usually due to a decline in the moral and spiritual values in the family. As families go, so goes a nation.

This has been the main premise of thinkers from British historian J. D. Unwin to Russian sociologist Pitirim Sorokin who have studied civilizations that have collapsed. In his book Our Dance Has Turned to Death, Carl Wilson identifies the common pattern of family decline in ancient Greece and the Roman Empire. Notice how these seven stages parallel what is happening in our nation today. In the first stage, men ceased to lead their families in worship. Spiritual and moral development became secondary. Their view of God became naturalistic, mathematical, and mechanical.

In the second stage, men selfishly neglected care of their wives and children to pursue material wealth, political and military power, and cultural development. Material values began to dominate thought, and the man began to exalt his own role as an individual. The third stage involved a change in men’s sexual values. Men who were preoccupied with business or war either neglected their wives sexually or became involved with lower-class women or with homosexuality. Ultimately, a double standard of morality developed. The fourth stage affected women. The role of women at home and with children lost value and status. Women were neglected and their roles devalued. Soon they revolted to gain access to material wealth and also freedom for sex outside marriage. Women also began to minimize having sex relations to conceive children, and the emphasis became sex for pleasure. Marriage laws were changed to make divorce easy.

In the fifth stage, husbands and wives competed against each other for money, home leadership, and the affection of their children. This resulted in hostility and frustration and possible homosexuality in the children. Many marriages ended in separation and divorce.

Many children were unwanted, aborted, abandoned, molested, and undisciplined. The more undisciplined children became, the more social pressure there was not to have children. The breakdown of the home produced anarchy.

In the sixth stage, selfish individualism grew and carried over into society, fragmenting it into smaller and smaller group loyalties. The nation was thus weakened by internal conflict. The decrease in the birthrate produced an older population that had less ability to defend itself and less will to do so, making the nation more vulnerable to its enemies.

Finally, unbelief in God became more complete, parental authority diminished, and ethical and moral principles disappeared, affecting the economy and government. Thus, by internal weakness and fragmentation the societies came apart. There was no way to save them except by a dictator who arose from within or by barbarians who invaded from without.

Although this is an ancient pattern of decline found in Greece and Rome, it is relevant today. Families are the foundation of a nation. When the family crumbles, the nation falls because nations are built upon family units. They are the true driving social force. A nation will not be strong unless the family is strong. That was true in the ancient world and it is true today.

Social commentator Michael Novak, writing on the importance of the family, said:

One unforgettable law has been learned through all the disasters and injustices of the last thousand years: If things go well with the family, life is worth living; when the family falters, life falls apart.

The Decline of Values

There are many factors in the decline of a nation. Certainly a major one is the breakdown of the family. But another potent but less perceptible force is the power of ideas.

False ideas are bringing about the decline of western culture. Carl F. H. Henry, in his book Twilight of a Great Civilization, says:

There is a new barbarism. This barbarism has embraced a new pagan mentality . . . not simply rejecting the legacy of the West, but embracing a new pagan mentality where there is no fixed truth.

Today we live in a world where biblical absolutes are ignored, and unless we return to these biblical truths, our nation will continue to decline.

To understand how we have arrived at this appalling situation, we need to go back a century and look at the influence of five intellectual leaders who still profoundly affect the modern world. The first person is Charles Darwin (1809-1882). In 1859 he published The Origin of Species and later published The Descent of Man. His writings blurred the distinction between humans and animals since he taught that we are merely part of an evolutionary progression from lower forms of life. Darwinism, as it came to be called, not only affected the field of biology, but became the foundation for the fields of anthropology, sociology, and psychology.

The second person is Karl Marx (1818-1883). He and Friedrich Engels published the Communist Manifesto around 1850, and Marx devoted his life to writing about the demise of capitalism and coming of communism. He understood the importance of ideas. Marx once wrote: “Give me twenty-six lead soldiers and I will conquer the world.” (So did Benjamin Franklin.) The twenty-six lead soldiers are the keys on a typewriter. The pervasive influence of communism in the world today is testimony to the truthfulness of his statement.

The third person is Julius Wellhausen (1844-1918). Although he may not be as well known as the other two men mentioned, his influence was just as profound. He was a German Bible scholar whose theory on the dating of the Pentateuch completely transformed Old Testament studies.

Wellhausen argued that the early books of the Bible were not put together by Moses but were gathered together many centuries later by several different men called redactors who wove various strands together. He and his disciples established an anti-supernatural approach to the scriptures which is influential in most denominational seminaries today.

The fourth person is Sigmund Freud (1856-1939). He merely took the logical implications of what Darwin was doing in biology and applied them to what today is known as psychology and psychiatry. Freud argued that humans are basically autonomous and therefore do not need to know God. Instead, we need to know and understand ourselves since our problems stem from those secret things that have evolved in our lives from our past.

A fifth person is John Dewey (1859-1952). He is the founder of modern education and published his first work, The School and Society, in 1899. John Dewey was also one of the co-signers of the Humanist Manifesto in 1933.

Dewey, like Darwin and Freud, believed that humans are autonomous. They don’t need to have an authority above them but can evolve their our own system of education. Thus the very foundation of modern education is anti-supernatural.

Ideas have consequences, and false ideas can bring down a nation. The theories of these five men are having devastating consequences in our nation and world. Unless we return to biblical absolutes, our nation will continue its decline.

Spiritual Decline

The decline and fall of nations is usually due to internal factors rather than external threats. Even though some may have fallen to barbarians, their demise ultimately came because of moral and spiritual weakness which manifested itself as military weakness. Historians have listed the stages in the decline of a nation. These should not be too surprising to any student of the Old Testament. The stages of decline parallel the stages through which the nation of Israel passed.

But neither should they surprise a student of the New Testament. In the opening chapter of the Apostle Paul’s letter to the church in Rome, he traces a similar progression. In fact, Romans 1 shows the decline of a civilization from a societal perspective. Looking at the Hellenistic world of his time, he reflects on the progression of sin in a nation.

The first stage is when people turn from God to idolatry. Although God has revealed Himself in nature to all men so that they are without excuse, they nevertheless worship the creation instead of the Creator. This is idolatry. In the past, this took the form of actual idol worship. In our day, it takes the form of the worship of money or the worship of self. In either case, it is idolatry. A further example of this is a general lack of thankfulness. Although they have been prospered by God, they are ungrateful. And when they are no longer looking to God for wisdom and guidance, they become vain and futile and empty in their imaginations. They no longer honor God, so their foolish hearts become darkened. In professing to be wise, they have become fools.

The second stage is when men and women exchange their natural use of sex for unnatural uses. Here the Apostle Paul says those four sobering words, “God gave them over.” In a society where lust- driven sensuality and sexual perversion dominate, God gives them over to their degrading passions and unnatural desires. The third stage is anarchy. Once a society has rejected God’s revelation, it is on its own. Moral and social anarchy is the natural result. At this point God has given the sinners over to a depraved mind and so they do things which are not proper. This results in a society which is without understanding,untrustworthy, unloving, and unmerciful.

The final stage is judgment. God’s judgment rightly falls upon those who practice idolatry and immorality. Certainly an eternal judgment awaits those who are guilty, but a social judgment occurs when God gives a nation over to its sinful practices.

Notice that this progression is not unique to the Hellenistic world the Apostle Paul was living in. The progression from idolatry to sexual perversion to anarchy to judgment is found throughout history.

In the times of Noah and Lot, there was the idolatry of greed, there was sexual perversion and promiscuity, there was anarchy and violence, and finally there was judgment. Throughout the history of the nation of Israel there was idolatry, sexual perversion, anarchy (in which each person did what was right in his own eyes), and finally judgment.

This progression happened throughout the Bible and to Greece, to Persia, to Babylon, and to Rome. And if it happened to these nations, then it can happen today.Unless we return to God’s principles, decline and destruction are inevitable.

 


08/12/21 10:42 PM #9802    

 

John Jackson

MM, I’m really worried about what will happen to our country not because of Freud, Marx, etc, but because there are really crazy ideas and misinformation circulating wildly on the internet that allow people, driven by ideology, to ignore science and disrespect learning and just believe whatever they want to believe.  It doesn’t matter what you’re trying to prove - you can always find some random internet “expert” to prove your point. 

And there’s no better example of this than the current debate over masking and vaccines.  As someone who knows nothing about epidemiology or vaccines, how can I assess the accuracy of your “expert” Dan Stock’s claims?  It seems a much safer bet to rely on the overwhelming consensus of those who have devoted their lives and careers to studying these matters and who have found that masks are an effective tool against Covid-19 and that the vaccines are spectacularly effective. 

And ditto for climate change.


08/13/21 08:00 AM #9803    

 

Michael Boulware

Frank,

Please excuse my late response; I am not a daily reader of our forum. My wonderful cousin, Jodelle Sims, called me and informed me you wanted a response. Your questions seem to reflect your political philosophy. I hope I can answer your questions with factual data. Let's start out with some definitions: FASCISM- A form of far-right, authoritarian, ultra nationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible supresion of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Our former president attempted  overpower the Legislative Branch and the Judicial Branch, override the last presidential election, and  fired cabinet members and advisers that did not agree with him. He admired the leaders of Russia, China, and Turkey. He tried to supress the media with accusations of "fake news" to any story he did not like. He was unfaithful to his three wives and was caught in many lies. He had no respect for our norms, traditions,or anything that did not benefit him. Am I calling him a Fascist? Yes I am.

SOCIALISM- A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community.

In the United States we have a unique form of socialism. I call it Democratic Socialism. In order for it to be successful, we need to elect honest, sincere, and unselfish leaders. The means of production and ownership of business is controlled by private ownership attempting to make a profit. The "community" polices business and protects civil rights. The "community" provides road and bridge construction and repair as well as other internal improvements , elections, and our overall well- being. In order to pay for the " community" or Federal Government to function, we pay taxes. You might not like it, but you are a Democratic Socialist like the rest of us.

 


08/13/21 08:30 AM #9804    

 

Frank Ganley

Mike, great job on definitions followed by your opinion of our last president. Now I'm your next post please answer with responses to my question that I asked about in my last post, how you c an defend them and what would you think what this administration should do to make America better. PS I am no more decisive than most of the writings here. I just think differently  than the party you support. And to quote Don Corlion from The Godfather, keep your friends close but your enemies closer. 
 


08/13/21 12:53 PM #9805    

 

Michael Boulware

I googled "What has President Biden Accomplished as President?" in order to answer your question properly. I am way too lazy, and do not want to spend the time to write all of this down. I compared it to "What Did Donald Trump Accomplish as President?" Google is an impartial source. They give an objective analysis. Try it. I think you will be suprised.


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