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01/04/18 09:43 PM #2458    

Timothy Lavelle

Dave Fredericks,

My grandma and grandpa had a little metal device on the inside wall right by the back door to their tiny apartment that held a box of those matches...it had a opening at the bottom like a cupped hand where you would stick your fingers in to get  match...and a striker on the side. We used to steal the matches and try to get them to strike on the sidewalk outside by throwing them down real hard on the cement.

But dude, we never struck the match on metal jeans zippers. That was bold & ingenious. Great story buddy.

Joe D...I can't imagine what a thrill it would be to have a child play sports on a team like that. Mustr have been fantastic.

Al - Your book of the month club suggestion comes at a good time. Thanks.


01/04/18 10:40 PM #2459    

 

Frank Ganley

Sorry about the confusion between Lou and nick saban. It is now our 5th day of this miserable weather with cold , rain, and cloudy and dreary making me think I was back in Columbus which always reminds me that god is a buckeye as the sun is scarlet and the sky is grey. Dave f what a nice memory and Tim being a cigarette smoker at that time I did light my ciggys at times using my zipper as the igniting surface. As a former cig smoker I still have maintained my zippo lighter tricks, the snapping the top open , couldn’t do that with a scripting lighter with the fancy plastic bottom. Also snapping your finger on the wheel was enough to get a light. Now my only bic lighter trick is opening a beer bottle not a screw top with a quick snap under the cap and off it comes.  Here in Tampa we are not allowed to burn anything except in your back yard. I built a little fire pit in the side yard and built a little fire and sure enough up comes the rental cops telling me to put out the fire. Communists.  Why can’t we burn leaves , are we fouling the air quality by burning leaves or even our trash outback. I would like to see us return to many of the things that we did in our growing up years. I remember all the FYI dances, sock ups, and nights at the park of roses shelter with always hundreds of kids dancing and having a great time and never any trouble, no fights, no knives and certainly no guns unless billy bunch showed up but everybody kind of ignored him so he just left. My daughter Nicole during her entire high school year went to one dance a year until junior year two. The first was homecoming dance which for us was a sock hop for her a formal and then two proms   Just last week here in Tampa a huge holiday dance destroyed by shootings , 2 teens dead. Wtf. How sad that these kids can not have the fun we had. Let’s return to those value days we had or am I pipe dreaming?


01/04/18 10:45 PM #2460    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

You guys never fail to entertain! Thanks for the great stories and great writing. Keep it up in 2018! Love all of you! 

 


01/05/18 10:55 AM #2461    

 

Michael McLeod

Alan - 

Yep I knew UCF would overtake OSU in size some day but I didn't think it had already happened.

Oddly enough I have taught at both places - as an adjunct at UCF and then full time at OSU when I got sentimental a few years back and came home for a three-year stretch at The Lantern & the communications dept. 

UCF is so entirely different in the feel of its campus, as you might guess. Beautiful but not venerable, is how I'd put it.  


01/06/18 11:36 AM #2462    

 

Alan Standish

Yeh Mike- total enrollmen, OSU still has lead (66,000 to 62,000), but undergraduate, UCF has 55,700 vs. 45,800 for OSU. Actually, Texas A=M is 2nd with 50,800 and Liberty (in Virginia) is 3rd with 47,100.  2nd biggest Big Ten undergraduate is Penn State (followed by IU, thenMichigan State!)  A veritable mountain of useless information!!  Maybe in about 100 years UCF will become venerable like OSU ( if Disney doesn't buy it and turn it into Educationland or something yet more profitable!).


01/06/18 12:08 PM #2463    

 

David Mitchell

Speaking of Big 10 schools, I just read a report that before the recent Outback Bowl game with South Carolina, Michigan Coach Jim Harbaugh announced that he only planned to dress half of his roster. Apparently, the other half had to dress themselves.


01/06/18 01:06 PM #2464    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

 

Fred sent this to me this morning. Love and prayers for Joe and his family.    

 


01/06/18 01:11 PM #2465    

 

John Maxwell

Dave, your American sense of humor is showing. Reminds me of the old story about how these two guys were strolling down a dirt road, and one of them had a sack of chickens over his shoulder. As it turned out the one with the chickens was an OSU grad and the other was a UofM grad. "Hey buckeye, Whatcha got in the bag?" Inquired the wolverine. "Chickens." said the buckeye. "Hey, buckeye if I guess how many you got can I have one?" Asked the wolverine. "Wolverine, if you can guess how many chickens I got, you can have both of them." Proudly stated the buckeye. "Six?" guessed the wolverine. I've probably told this before, but it holds up. Some day the wolverine will get it right. Odds are in his favor.
Have a great 2018!

01/06/18 02:41 PM #2466    

 

David Mitchell

Condolences to you Joe and your family. Never knew that about your dad.

 

(probably a transposition of numbers - B-52's didn't exist until about 20 years later --- maybe a B-25? Even more heroic!)


01/07/18 10:52 AM #2467    

 

Michael McLeod

I was thinking B-17 but one way or the other that's hero work, that right there.

My dad was at Okinawa for WW2. That was one of the most god-awful battles of any war ever. He never talked much about it but when he said that one word on occasion, you heard something in his voice.


01/07/18 12:00 PM #2468    

 

David Mitchell

Film lovers might want to catch "Darkest Hour". Not an "action" film, but an "acting" film. (no car chase scenes). Gary Oldham - who in my opinion is one of the most underated actors of his generation - plays Churchill. He is spellbinding in the role! I guess they had to spend 3+ hours very single day in the makeup chair to get him ready. For those of you who can't picture Oldham, he is an early middle aged, slender guy with boyish face. The transformation is remarkable. I hope it gets him an oscar nomination - it should.

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** Just added this: I went to see "All The Money in the World" Just out of curiousity about the re-editing of the film. I had seen the previews with Kevin Spacey as J.Paul Getty several months ago. The film was "in the can" and ready for release when they went back and re-shot every single Spacey scene with Christopher Plummer in his place. Amazing how well it worked. Not a great film, but an interesting one - a bit slow. But Plummer is excellent. They said it was beter than before. I read somewhere that they shot all the new clips and re-edited the film in 10 weeks.


01/07/18 04:27 PM #2469    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Folks,

New topic.

I love Ohio, it is where I was born and raised and I consider it one of my homes. But I also love my current home, Colorado, and I worry that it is being changed in ways that are being ignored by much of the press and even some of our top polititians from this state including our governor and two senators.

This is about Amendment 64, passed by the voters in 2012, which "legalized" the sale of recreational marijuana in Colorado, the first state to do so. This is NOT about "medicinal marijuana" which I hope to address in a future post.

Let us remember that marijuana is still illegal under federal law and no state has the "right" to change that, nor does the executive branch of the federal government, members of which are sworn to uphold the laws of the land. President Obama decided to not uphold that law. Only Congress has the authority to change the law. Attorney General Jeff Sessions is trying to restore the legality of this situation and prevent a cascade of more states from making the mistake that Colorado and several other states have made.

If you listen to Gov. Hickenlooper (D) and Sen. Cory Gardner (R) you would think that Colorado is just fine and dandy with RMJ. You would believe that it is preventing the foreign cartels from infiltrating our state, controlling the distribution of RMJ, keeping it out of juvenile hands and regulating the number of plants allowed in "legal" grow houses. In fact, the only thing I feel that the polititians are really seeing is the tax dollars that are pouring in from the sale of RMJ.

Those people in the trenches - teachers, doctors, law enforcement personnel, drug counselors, parents, national forest officials and others - tell a different story.

Pot involved traffic accidents are soaring. My niece who drives to work along I-25 from Central to South Denver often sees drivers smoking pot in cars along the freeway. Consumption among teenagers is out of control. Weed crossing borders to states that do not allow pot is almost uncontrolable. So called "illegal" grow houses are so numerable that it is a joke. The El Paso County Sheriff's Office states there are more than 550 such places in the county and Mayor John Suthers talks of hundreds in the City of Colorado Springs.  

By the way, Amendment 64 allowed cities to determine if they would allow "legal" dispensaries of RMJ to exist. Colorado Springs has twice declined that "privilege". However, on the far west end of our city is the small town of Manitou Springs, a few minutes drive from our downtown, which allowed two such stores.

And how about keeping out the Mexican cartels from Colorado? They have flourished! With the "legalization" of RMJ in the state, these cartels find Colorado more attractive for their illegal grows and black markets than their home country. And they can undersell the stores which have to add the taxes to the product!  The National Forests (NF) have become their farms and plantations. The two NF's west of Colorado Springs, Pike and San Isabel, have become home to massive grows that can be hidden from air view. The cartels cut down some branches of trees and clear other trees to grow the plants, use illegal irrigation, set up small reservoirs and fertilize their crops with often illegal fertilizers. Where is the outrage from those who want to combat pollution? Raids have made but a small dent in such operations even though one netted a grow worth $35 million in street value. People who use the NF's are being cautioned that they may come across such activity when hiking, camping, 4-wheeling or enjoying the forest in other pursuits. Hey, these are the places where I go to photograph some of my landscapes! I don't want to stumble upon a grow protected by an army of armed drug thugs!

I realize that there are many viewpoints in the country and among our classmates on the topic of marijuana. But we are a nation of laws and that should be respected by all, especially our leaders and elected officials. Colorado is a beautiful state but I worry that, as the old Barry McGuire song says, it may be on the "Eve of Destruction".

For those of you who live in states that have not yet made the mistake that Colorado did, I urge you to do your research if this comes up on your ballot in the future.

Jim

 


01/07/18 07:05 PM #2470    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

I still have good friends in Denver and I feel your pain. Two of their concerns (in additon to the rise in trafffic accidents - are the increase of pot parlors in certain parts of town (South Broadway and East Colfax, I think). these are places where the addicts congregate and make it uncomfortable or even unsafe for other businesses to operate nearby - and the increase in uses in MJ infused foods that are being casually introduced in social gatherings, including children's birthday parties. 

Medical marijuana, maybe. But recreational, I just don't get it. The politicians seem to be fixated on the tax revenues and nothing beyond that. At least the lottery doesn't add to the traffic accidents.

Interstingly, My best friends are husband and wife who wr split on teh vote. He is an attorney who was addamantly opposed from the beginning. She voted for it. Now that some of these effects are being seen, she is wishing she had not.


01/07/18 07:29 PM #2471    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave,

There are a lot of people in the state who wish they had not voted for Amendment 64. It was marketed in such a way that the negative effects were not emphasized.

In regards to edibles, there have been numerous incidents of children in the Emergency Rooms who have ingested such products. Originally, many edibles were packaged in wrappers that resembled brand names of candy bars, cookies, etc. The State Legislature is (perhaps already has) been dealing with that situation. Also, edibles were not well marked with the amount of MJ/THC in the edible which was often much, much more than in a joint. Thus when the whole "candy bar" was ingested, a peson - adult or child - received a large overdose of drug.

Jim

 

 

 

 

 


01/08/18 05:09 PM #2472    

 

David Fredericks

Jim....regarding your off road photo adventures, you may want to spend some time on the range working on your personal protection skills.


01/08/18 05:15 PM #2473    

 

Frank Ganley

Oh dear Lord what is he going to say now. Jim H I am sure that the medical journals all have something to say about the evils of marijuana and all we need to do is start of with that 1940 classic "reefer Madness"  I am a pot smoker, a statemnet that shocked everyone as much as when my buddis and me that owned a private music club , studio, party house and we had Greg Alman for a week reherseing for his tour in 2000 something. Over dinner as he stated to tell stories he announced, guys I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS OR NOT BUT I AM AN ALCOHOLIC, NO WAY  we all chimed in.. over the years of playing golf and 25 years on a lesson tee my body has broken down, The list of injurys and surgerys is long and impressive on the names of some of the proceddures. And over that time the marijuana has taken a more mediinal place in my life but i will not dispute the fack that I ALSO smoke recreationally. When asked by anyone who asks for a form do you smoke? not tobacco. In all those years from 1967, i knew no one in high school or anywhere I went who smoked pot before I went to OSU, never have i lost control of myself other than pull into that white castle and stock up.. I never wrecked a car, had to urge to rape and kill or for that matter rob a bank or steal a car, some of the stupid things that can be thought of and done sometimes, not by me or friends, while drinking demon rum. I have swervered on liquor, i have been denied service on more than one occassion, i even have fallen asleep in TeeJays where jerrys was on the toilet while gus and mary kay and toni cardi ate while i snored. All on demon bourbon that night. But that does not happen on smoking pot. now gummi bears and other food stuffs i can not talk about as i don't know anything about it or what their standards are ie proofage like booze. Id much rather smoke a small bowl , relax, play a little music and hurt less that a few cocktails,he mind get blurry and boom and frank falls for the third time, yes it has happened.. the corporations  who are against pot\ are : the american cotton assc. dupont chemical and all of the drug companies.. No jim there has not been enough studies but then lets have an open mind into all that it may have to offer.. No it is not a gateway drug, if it was, a person such as I who can be led into temptzation on the slight chance of its going to be fun , well lets not go there because i wouldn't. It won't rot your teeth like meth, it won't make you vomite like opiates but it does ease joint pain, and many modern ailments. A lot of people who don't use will of course condemn and get drunk like god intended, thats a joke, remember how many processes it takes to make booze but marijuana is grown without anything but the sunshine and  water of the Lord. and as the old commercial says light up and smile brother smile. 


01/08/18 07:18 PM #2474    

 

Joseph Donahue

 

 

Sometimes reading Francois comments reminds me of the scene in Animal House...When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor...quiet, he’s on a roll. In this instance, I agree with him.

Jim, I cannot argue the issue from a legal standpoint as clearly it is against Federal law.  I support it strictly from a humanitarian standpoint.  My daughter is a nurse practitioner in Pediatric Oncology at Sloan Kettering.  (She is in the process of moving to National Health in DC in the same field).  She has told me that the children nearing death have had their pain eased by taking the extract from the plant. I know that it is not the same as smoking a joint but why should patients in states not allowing the extract not be able to get relief?  Georgia happens to be a state that does allow medical marijuana but for limited diseases.  I have friends who smoke to ease the pain of arthritis, glaucoma and various other pain related issues. I am also aware of cases of seizures that are eased through the use of marijuana.  

I don’t have the answer. Perhaps if the medical marijuana lobbyists were as active as the alcohol industry, we could at least allow access to the extract on a national level.  Until that happens or if it never happens I will continue to support citizens who break the law to get themselves and their family the relief they deserve.


01/08/18 08:01 PM #2475    

Timothy Lavelle

I first read Dr. Jim's post about Marijuana shortly after he wrote it. Kept waiting for someone to argue. Thank you to Frank and Joe for stepping up. I would bet anything there are still others out there who would like to differ with you but are embarrassed or afraid to say their piece. That some people cannot speak their mind with comfort is what mostly pisses me off about how cramping life can be.

In our lifetime, the historical movement for Prohibition that lead to an amendment of the US Constitution and made alcohol illegal in this country has taken on a 'laughable mistake' kind of aroma. This "Man, why did they think like that?"... even though it was proposed by very well meaning people who believed that if we could stop people drinking, we would move toward a more perfect human species. Sometimes we allow people to control our behavior and even our thoughts. Luckily, as a country, we have been able to make mistakes and then fix them...as best we can.

In our actual lifetimes, racial equality actually went from a wish by those maltreated to a subject that would not be denied. It is still unfolding as a social experiment in this country. I say social experiment because it is an ongoing and slow action and certainly not a reality in 100% of our country.

In our actual lifetimes, gay rights to include marriage have become  the law of the land. When we were still in our teens  not a single one of us would have been able to say to a classmate that it was Okay to be gay. At least not those of us who were born hetero.

What the helll am I droning on and on about??

In our lifetime we were inundated with information that marijuana use led to every evil known to man. The amount of tax dollars spent on the drug wars was just amazing at a time when we actually knew that cigarettes (legal) and alcohol (legal) were eating away at our physical and mental selves. And did next to nothing other than limiting the age when they were available...just like we currently do with Marijuana.  But Jim, marijuana is smoked by people you don't know personally...faceless people that are young (and need to be corrected?!) or look poorly kept or dressed (and don't uphold your values!?) Just like it is easy to condemn millions and millions of Muslims for the terrible acts of a few, it is easy to condemn marijuana for supposedly destroying lives when you don't let yourself wonder why people would pay money for herbal relief. It's fun and maybe for a few minutes you don't think about Trumpy playing nuclear roulette.

Do you think that in Religion class at Watterson I would have ever been able to say "I am not so sure about this "God" thing. Truly, think about it. What do you suppose would have happened to me if I had doubted the Catholic faith out loud. People want you to be someone who is like them so they can feel comfortable.

I understand the feeling that America is not what she used to be.  But I am thankful...I believe that she is better than she has ever been.  There are many big subjects that separate us into groups of pro and con. Despite that fact we keep trying to be polite and let the other person, or the other side, speak. As these issues multiply, our ability to "let the other person speak"...to let the issue take on human form and possibly change our own view...we are a country that allows rules to change so that segments of our society can have justice more in tune with their personal beliefs. These facts are, as Mary Margaret would say "Effing Magic."

No, of course she would not say that.

I love humor and when Jeff Sessions said "Good people do not smoke marijuana"  I started laughing out loud. How so like this administration - in the face of 2018 elections, to tell a good percentage of the 'Murican people that they are "not good".

Conservatives will call that remark by Sessions bold and brave.  Meanwhile extreme religionists will tell me what I should believe about god, gay rights and abortion while xenophobes will tell me which cultures are approved. Hell, I don't even have to walk 500 yards to hear disparaging racial remarks.

I don't smoke dope most days. I smoke dope EVERY day. Smuggling dope across the USA lead to a successful life in logistics. And I am not totally crazy yet.  Close, but not there yet...

Jim and sycophants, lighten up! We smokers don't need your paranoia. Life is an experiment. Let the experiment happen for at least a few years until you make your judgments,  just like we have with our other social experiments.


01/09/18 02:24 AM #2476    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Well, guys, here I was casually watching the NCAA championship game, and as I have a tendency to attempt to do two things at once (and admittedly, not always very well), I was also scrolling through my Facebook feed.  Wouldn't you know, I came upon an article regarding the legalization of marijuana which I had decided might be some additional information to add to Jim H's post. Initially, I was simply going to provide a link to the article. And then when I logged on to the forum, and read the additional posts, I felt compelled to also add my two cents to the discussion.

 

To the point about some members feeling intimidated about putting forth their opinions here, I would contend that it may simply be that many do not like to personally engage in any public debate about controversial topics.  I would also not call it "paranoia" to hold a view that differs from yours, or any others, on the subject of legalizing recreational marijuana. This is a topic that as far as I know is open to debate.  

 

That was my one cent....here is the other cent

 

I have tried to read up on the pros and cons of legalizing recreational marijuana as there continues to be talk of putting this on the ballot here in Ohio.   One thing that concerns me with regard to those under 25 who begin using weed is the effect of marijuana on the brain which is still undergoing neurodevelopment.  It is during this period that the brain is thought to be particularly sensitive to damage from drug exposure as the frontal cortex (critical for decision-making, judgment and personality) is one of  the very last areas to be developed.   Furthermore,  the main active ingredient in marijuana is THC and in the 70's the THC level was around 1%, in the 80's the level rose to 4% and today the reported average potency level of THC is up to 20-30%.  THC concentrations can be manipulated by marijuana growers who cross-breed strains for increased potency.   

 

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain.aspx  


01/09/18 04:26 AM #2477    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Well, I guess the topic of medicinal marijuana (MMJ) is now on the table.

First a little background. Cannabis is listed as a Schedule I controlled substance by the DEA. That means it is considered a drug that has "no acceptable medical use and has a high potential for abuse". That puts it in the same class as heroin. Do I believe that is a proper classification? No. I feel it should be a Schedule II drug which would then allow more open scientific research to be conducted without some of the numerous hoops that must be navigated by legitimate researchers now.

One of the problems with cannibis research is that in cannibis plants, especially when smoked, there are about 400 different chemicals of which about 135 are cannibinoids. The main psychoactive chemical is tetrahydrocannibinol (THC) which, as Mary Margaret pointed out, has been drastically increased in today's weed as compared to that of in the 1960's. Some of the non-psychoactive cannabinoids have been researched and have shown some efficacy for medicinal use. Dronabinol (prescription drug, brand name is Marinol) is one such cannabinoid that has use for intractable nausea and vomiting and increasing appetite in AIDS patients. Nabiximols, another category of cannibinoid, has some usefulness in cancer pain, multiple sclerosis pain and spasticity management. Unfortunately it is not available in the USA but is in Canada. I suspect research will find other cannibinoids that are useful for other conditions in the future.

Many of the medications in use today come from plants (some of which are toxic in and of themselves), bacteria, mold and fungi: digitalis (Foxglove plant), atropine (belladonna plant), botulinum toxin (Botox, bacteria), penicillin (mold) and cephalosporins (a fungus discovered in the sewers of Sicily) are but a few examples. The rain forests of Central America probably hold countless, undiscovered species that could be useful to treat many conditions.

Alcohol is often compared to MJ but I do not feel that is a fair comparison. In honesty I reveal I do like my wine and martinis - definitely in moderation, of course! The difference is that ethanol is a single chemical wheras MJ, as stated above, is a compilation of hundreds. We are all aware of the damage that can be done by excessive alcohol use and, in some situations, even minor alcohol use (pregnancy). Cigarette smoke also contains hundreds of chemicals, many of which are carcinogenic. Vaping contains some of those also.

Are alcohol and cigarettes addicting? Probably but not universally. This comes down to our genetics. And that is the latest area of medical research occurring today. It is well known that there are some teenagers who are instantly addicted to nicotine on their first experimentation with cigarettes. Alcohol addiction is common and we often see that running in families. Could there be a genetic pattern for the ability of certain individuals to become addicted to cannabis? Most likely, yes.

THC is a lipophilic substance, that is to say it is fat soluble. Fatty tissue retains chemicals for a long time. Our brain is one big convoluted yet highly organized glob of fat. Thus when one consumes MJ it stays in the body for about three weeks. Again, as Mary Margaret wrote, the brain does not fully develop until about age 25 and the last part to develop are the areas of higher function such as reasoning. To these individuals marijuana can alter their future in drastic ways.

Does MJ adversely affect the fully developed adult brain? Yes. So can alcohol. What is a "safe dose"? Unknown. Alcohol levels in the blood are fairly predictive of what impairment is in the brain. That is not known for THC.

Is MJ a "gateway drug"? For some, yes, and that may also be genetically determined. In the not-to-distant future we may have the tools to determine the susceptibility of individuals to many different substances and diseases. That is definitely on the horizon. Brave new world! Do individual patients really want to know that? I'll wager that insurance companies do!

In summary, we need a lot more research on many things, incuding MMJ. There are many anecdotal and testamonial reports to MMJ as have been expressed by Frank and Joe's daughter. There is still a paucity of rigorous, scientific, double blinded placebo controlled studies and comparative studies to existing treatments available. The few that have been done have not shown significant superiority to currently available therapies. But, again, we have no way of predicting a patient's genetic response in those trials.

In my first post on this topic I mainly was talking about the societal adverse effects that Colorado's Amendment 64 has had on our state. And I stand by that. MMJ is still in a grey area for me to say much more about it at this time.

Good night,

Jim

 

 


01/09/18 11:20 AM #2478    

 

David Mitchell

It seems to me that "in our actual lifetimes", Goergia just might win another National Championship. 

 


01/09/18 11:43 AM #2479    

 

Frank Ganley

Jim you certainly have started the tea now it’s brewing nicely. I must respectfully disagree with one state to in particular and that is of pot addictiveness. I have smoked both pot and cigarettes or to lump easier tobacco. If any have smoked tobacco know for a fact that it is not a habit it is addiction. We don’t like to use that word as it sounds dirty , stay away from him he’s an addict. That first inhale of tobacco weird taste but wow the room is spinning similar to laughing gas’s. You either like it or you don’t . I did and puffed again same effect. After a few days that effect is gone but smokers are all chasing that first figgy buzz. You’re hooked. That never in all my experiences has never happened , if you knew of a strain of pot that will do that please tell me. After smoking pot I have never thought man if I only had some crack or smake. Nope doesn’t happen if it does oops wrong crowd idiot   Jim your point of the untold number of chemicals in cannibis demands teschearch in all aspects. Good things come from research. Now naysayers will say but frank you smoke everyday. I donut in a week I smoke less than a Marlboro 100. Not much but I feel better.  I also am not going crazy like a poor ciggy  smoker , I love flying next to that person.   Research. Note condemnation  


01/09/18 11:54 AM #2480    

 

Michael McLeod

Yo yo potheads whazzzup?

One thing that concerns me is that usage of marijuana among young people decreases their motivation. 

Have we learned NOTHING from Scooby-Doo cartoons?

And I have only just scanned the commentary about but I can't recall Jim mentioning its medical usage in terms of alleviating pain among serious ill patients. And of course there is the glaucoma thing.

So there are clearly plusses and minuses with this plant.

I recall smoking it just because it was cool or appeared to be back in the day, but I never really liked it, and in fact smoking it did make me paranoid on occasion. I haven't had a toke in decades.

I like a glass of wine or two. Or a Manhattan with a good bourbon. Woodford Reserve when I can afford it.

Wondering, Dave, if you saw pot being smoked a lot in 'Nam. If at all. I would not want to climb into your helicopter with you if I thought you were stoned. 

 

 


01/09/18 11:57 AM #2481    

 

Michael McLeod

And ok I do see now, Jim, that you mention many of the medical usages, including pain management.


01/09/18 01:16 PM #2482    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Frank,

Addiction is a very complex condition that involves many areas of the brain and neurotransmitter pathways. A recent issue of National Geographic Magazine went into great detail on this which, evan as a doctor, was difficult to understand. These pathways in some people, perhaps those genetically predisposed, can be triggered by not only substances but also by activities such as gambling and sex. Although not as addicting as nicotine and heroin, there are probably numerous chemicals in cannabis that have that potential.

 

Mike,

Glaucoma is now believed to be much more complex than just an increase in intraocular pressure (IOP) but also involves neural tissue such as the optic nerve. THC has been shown to slightly reduce IOP but the effect is very transient and lasts but about three hours. That would require smoking about 8 joints every 24 hours which would have many negative effects on the brain. Most topical glaucoma meds are used once or twice daily and produce better IOP reduction than THC. The other problem with THC is that it decreases blood pressure which delivers less blood to the optic nerve and makes it more susceptible to the glaucoma process.

Jim

 

 


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