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11/10/19 10:23 PM #6458    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

John & Dave this will be the last of the "Sentences".

     A thief who stole a calendar got twelve months.

     When the smog lifts in Los Angeles   U.C.L.A.

     I got some batteries that were given out free of charge.

     A dentist and a manicurist married.  They fought tooth and nail.

     A will is a dead giveaway.

     With her marriage, she got a new name and  a dress.

     Police were summoned to a daycare center where a three-year-old was resisiting a rest.

     Did you hear about the fellow whose entire left side was cut off?  He's all right now.

     A bicycle can't stand alone, it's just two tired.

     The guy who fell onto an upholstery machine last week is now fully re-covered.

     He had a photographic memory, but it was never fully developed.

     When she saw her first strands of gray hair she thought she'd dye.

     Acupuncture is a jab well done.  That's the point of it.  and

     Those who get too big for their pants will be totally exposed in the end.

 

I'm not sure but were these first said by Henny Youngman?

 


11/11/19 11:18 AM #6459    

 

Michael McLeod

Joe: Glad that's over with. It was starting to feel like a life sentence.


11/11/19 11:59 AM #6460    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

And a big thanks to all you veterans out there! 

 

Jim 


11/11/19 01:43 PM #6461    

 

David Mitchell

Joe,

those are teriffic !


11/11/19 04:28 PM #6462    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Thanks Joe for all of the laughs!!  And as we are celebrating Veterans Day today, I am posting the following video which is dedicated to all of our military veterans, from the founding of our nation to the present day, especially those members of the Class of '66.  Wih humble gratitude for their selfless service to preserve freedom, not only for Americans, but for people around the world.




11/11/19 06:23 PM #6463    

 

David Mitchell

Thank you Mary Margaret,

Those photos and that music always seem to penetrate my sheild of stoicism.

I have spoken here before about this bit of my experience, and I would like to introduce you to my own bunch of heroes - although some are missing in this shot. (I May post a second shot after).This was a photo at the reunion I wrote about over a year ago on this Forum. This shot is from the back of the Omni Hotel on Hilton Head Island 5 years ago. We were together for the first time in almost 45 years!

Forgive me as I retell some of the same details I have described before. I wanted to set the scene for  a few personal followup stories.

We eventually had ten guys and six wives at the hotel, although they had not all arrived by the time of this photo. A black and white photo of just us guys here was used in an article from the local "Hlton Head Monthly Magazine".

(I got extra copies of the newspaper article and the magazine article and sent all these guys several copies. They LOVED it!  A bit of affirmation after 45 years of silence and disrespect.) 

 

I have described a bit of our extremely unconventioanl tactics, with 2 "Scout" ships ("Loaches") down on the deck at about 6 or 8 feet, and often at rather slow speeds. It was an eyeball reconnaissance mission. Me looking down to my right out the door (with doors off) and foreground through the bottom of the cockpit plexiglass "bubble", and my "observer" looking down from the left seat to the front and left side. (and oh yes, glancing at my instrument panel every few mometns - its nice to ocaisonally know you still have correct engine RPMs and oil pressure - lol). At times we stumbled upon them by surprise, coming under fire immediately, and other times we actually tried to bait them into shooting at us. Remember, as I pointed out before, we were not stupid - just crazy.

Also Cobra Gunships ("guns") up at 1,500 feet, waiting to pounce with gobbs of fire power (rockets and "mini-gun - firing at 6,000 rounds per minute - with a deafening solid roar!) when we screamed "receiving fire" over the radio, dropped a colored marker smoke, and flew off to the side until called back to check out the results. That was an even more nerve wracking part of the process as the "guns" rarely eliminated the entire target on that first pass. So we were often then going back in over them knowing that they knew that we knew they were there - and no more "hide and seek" - no more holding back. But once fired upon, we were then allowed to fire back - but not until first being fired on first - rules of engagement). We also had a mini-gun firing at a "reduced" rate of 2,000 round per minute. We often flew back in "hot" (shooting) on that second pass. There were many crazy moments 

And there was a single Huey, piloted by the "Air Mission Commander" (our C.O., X.O., or "Operations Officer" - all "old guys" - in their late 20's and early 30's) directing the search from about 500 feet.

We also had four more Hueys ("Slicks") waiting back at our nearby staging/refueling field, in case we got in over our heads, and needed to call them to bring troops out to "insert" them around the "problem".

The operation was high risk, and flying in the "Scout" platoon was voluntary for 6 months. Most of us stayed in it for the entire 12 month tour. Although I extended my tour from 12 to 18 months, I did not return to the "Scout" platoon upon my return. Three of the guys who also extended stayed in the Scout platoon for all 18 months. We flew this mission for about two hours+ at a time (one fuel load) - rotating with another pair of teams of two, waiting for their turn to be over and then back out agian for anaaother two hours - ususally two, and sometimes three rotations per day. We did this every day for about 4 days on and one day off. 

I think it is obvious what such a stressful routine can do to a group of people. We employed a great deal of a combination I refer to as "denial wrapped in sarcasm". And we drew close - very close, altough we would not acknowledge it much at the time. This reunion was a coming out party for our pent up emotional atachment. A brotherhood like no other I can imagine. Some of the stuff we would do for one another when we were in trouble really bordered on the ridiculous! 

 

Having said all that, I thought I would share of few of the guys personal "episodes" with you over the next few days. And as always, I promise to keep it fairly "clean".

 


11/12/19 08:00 AM #6464    

 

Michael Boulware

Dave Mitchell,

You appear to be the youngest and best looking guy in the picture. It nust be your Eagle Genes.


11/12/19 11:48 AM #6465    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Nice Veterans Day posts. 

We had our first snow (maybe we've already had flurries) today and I wondered if anyone remembers freshman year one of the nuns- Sr. Francesca or Sr. Norbertine ?? - had a contest to guess date of first snow. 
 


11/12/19 01:44 PM #6466    

 

David Mitchell

Ha!  Mike,

Thanks. I will tell you a joke about that very thought when I get time to get back into some of the rest of the story. 

------------------

And Janie, It is 73 here, but we are going all the way down into the forties tonight - brrrrrrr!


11/12/19 04:38 PM #6467    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Buck ready for the Rut!

No, OSU football fans, NOT the Buckeyes ready to battle Rutgers this weekend, but rather this big buck, resting in back of our house today before taking on all challengers in the November RUT!

 

Armed and dangerous and with a neck that a guard or a tackle would envy!

Jim


11/12/19 06:43 PM #6468    

 

Kathleen Wintering (Nagy)

Ah Janie, Sister Francesca! So many great memories of Latin Class!  Kathy W.


11/12/19 07:02 PM #6469    

 

Michael McLeod

fyi dave

 

https://www.newsweek.com/2017/10/27/us-army-officer-returns-vietnam-chase-enemy-spymaster-686709.html?amp=1&fbclid=IwAR16-rjIioGy7tayseGQCalWSMln5XCYhSKCXDusIdgrk8QuVyApYT5z5NA


11/12/19 09:34 PM #6470    

 

David Mitchell

Thanks Mike M.

I am part way through your article and will have to finish it later.

 

Mike B. 

I have a funny comment in response to your compliment about me in the photo. (BTW, I think it is a horrible shot of me). But in that photo of seven guys, two were not "Loach" pilots. But of the five of us who were, we counted that we were shot down a combined total of 13 or 14 times. And I am the only one of those five who was only shot down once. I joked at the reunion that I was not only the youngest and the best looking, but I was also the smartest, because it only took me one time to learn that "drill" and decide that I did'nt need to repeat it.       I accused them all of being slow learners.  

And there is one guy not pictured who arrived late. He would have added five more himself. I'll add a photo of him with a story later.

At this reunion, we decided (reluctantly at first) to hire a wedding videographer, and hold a recorded story telling session on video. It was about three hours on the second day in one of the hotel conference rooms. It turned out to be magic!  It opened us all up in a cathartic way and for the first time in many years. We only did so after debating weahter or not to do it, when one of the wives asked her husband, "How much longer are you all going to be here?"  That remark answered the questuon for us. 

From the large group shot before, Here's a zoom of three guys for these three stories.

Here are a few abbreviated versions of their stories - some from that video session, others from my own memory. I'll break this into a few sessions.

1) Far left (heavy set, with cain) is a guy named Don from New York City. He was not a "Loach" pilot. He was a 1st. Lt. (later Captain) who flew front seat in a Cobra for a while and then became an Air Mission Commander, flying a Huey and directing the mission (from 500 feet). Although I was not fond of him (a rather rude New Yorker) he was the piiot who was the "AMC" the day I was shot down and landed the Huey to pick me up. My sense of gratitude overrides those personal feelings. * (Don later trained Cobra pilots for the Shaw of Iran until they had to make a sponaneous exit in 1979 - in a matter of hours! He later ran a helicopter passenger business in NYC) 

 

2) Back row, tall - w/blue shirt is a guy named Al from Atlanta. He was a also young 1st Lt. who did fly "Loaches" with our "Scout" platoon. He also became a Captain. The guy came across as a sort of bovine clown, but he is dumb like a fox. And funny - just plain funny! 

His first (of FOUR ! ) shoot downs was a chilling story - but he made it funny. It's just his nature. He made us laugh often at his child-like antics. 

We all had to spend our fist week in the observer (left) seat for a week while the platoon leader (another "old guy" Captain of 24) gave us a quick training. On the seventh day they were shot down and bonked and rolled the ship on it's side in a rice paddy, down east of the U-Minh Forest - a very bad place. Captain Rip Ash (a much smaller guy) climbed out his right side (now pointed up) first. Al, a big guy, climbed out and had a bit of a harder time getting all the way out and got grazed above his collar bone with and AK round. As the two got down and started running, they realized immediately that they were running straight at the source of fire, a large group of NVA "Regulars" in the nearby tree line. They quickly reversed course and started running the opposite direction, only to realize that two more NVA were at the far other end of the paddy, standing full open on a dike line, and firing at them from about 50 yards away with their AKs (AK-47s). So they quickly made a 90 degree turn and began running a third direction when Rip slipped and went face first into the 15 inches of rice paddy water, getting a helmet full of water in his face. So Al, (a big strong guy) grabbed Rip by the back of his (jungle fatigue) shirt collar and picked him up, choking as he came up gasping for breath. By this time the C&C ("Command and Control" ship - that Huey that is piloted by the AMC)  is comming in to get them - under heavy fire, and also close cover from the two Cobra gunships, laying down as much cover fire as they can. 

Al and Rip jumped into the back of the Huey and as they are climbing out, Al (telling us the story at the conference table) recalls, "We dove into the back floor of the ship so fast I almost slid out the other side. And, as we were lifting out I was thinking to myself, just 51 more weeks of this shit and I'll be ready to go home." 

After having us recall most of his story with open mouths, we were howling at his ending! 

That may give you and idea how frantic these scenes could be.

 

3) lower front - wheel chair and plaid blanket. My good friend Bob from Atlanta. You will recall Bob from my story about the bullet next to his spine from his "drug bust" of the drug-dealing senior police officers in Atlanta. He's had the bullet next to his spine fo rover 25 years! He actually wnet back to work on the police force full-time fo 10 years - with the bullet inside him! He has finally had to succomb to heavy pain pills and can no longer drive himself. (p.s. His second wife - blonde in white sweater - is and Angel ! )

Bob was shot down three times, but his worst story is not one of those. He was atempting to land and pick up a wounded guy (hard to fit into a Loach, but the guys on the ground were desperate).

Warning - this one is prettty bad! Skip it if you're uneasy with the hard stuff.

As he hoverd down low and close, the guys lifting the wounded kid up into his backseat were all shot. Bob was taking so much fire he had to pull up and abort the attempt. I think that is enough detail on this one. Sorry, but this story gets really messy. I just wanted you to know a bit of what Bob went through. 

And although he is still a good looking guy (in white hair and beard) I just wantd to remind you what a haandsome dude he was back in the day. A sort of "golden boy" who did everything right and was liked by all. 


11/13/19 10:58 AM #6471    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

Speaking of a "neck that a guard or tackle would envy" - you gave me an idea. Could you get one (or two) of those in a trailer and haul them up to Broncos Headquarters. I know it might be a tough fit for a helmet but anything would be better than Bolles, Leary, or Wilkinson right about now.  They couldn't block my mother!


11/13/19 01:29 PM #6472    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

I Just finished your article posted on your #6486.

Although it seemed to drag on a bit, getting to the point of the story - the meeting, those last few paragraphs spoke volumes to me! I could write volumes explaining his (and mine) frustration with some of our tactics and "management" of the military campaign. A war run by self-absorbed political idiots, who never took the time to really learn anything about the nature of the enemy - or the allies for that matter.

(sound familiar?)

That whole "free fire zone" thing would be a volume unto itself - a volume of poor judgements, miscalculations, errors, and sorry outcomes - not always - but sometimes. My own experience with "free fire zones" was limited, and usually okay, but punctuated with a couple of horrible mistakes. After one tragic incident, I made up my own mind to maintain the normal cautions I was used to in "non free fire" areas - instructions to the contrary be damned. If God gave "do-overs" I would love to have a couple days back, so I could change the outcome. 


11/13/19 04:49 PM #6473    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

I am reposting a note I received to the watterson1966@aol.com email so you can all enjoy our newest member. :)

Dear Janie,

Thank you for all the news.  I will try to be a part of the Message Forum - Class of 1966!  It  will take me time though.  Hello to the Watterson Eagles of '66. 

My best,Sister Gilmary


11/13/19 08:46 PM #6474    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Welcome to the Forum Sister Gilmary!!  Excited to have you on board.  A word of caution, some of us have a tendency to rock the boat at times!!  LOL


11/14/19 09:47 AM #6475    

 

Michael McLeod

Great. Now I have to behave myself. Or I'll get a checkmark on my report card.

Does anybody remember how, in class in grade school, if you thought you knew the answer to a question and you were really excited about answering, you would not only raise your hand but you would shout "sssster! sssster! sssster!" to try to get the nun to call on you?  And some of the more devoted and unruly little suckups among us would actually stand up next to their desks with their hand still upraised and hop up and down going ssster! ssster! sssster! like demonically possessed mexican jumping beans? 

I do. Of course I was way too cool to do it myself.

 


11/14/19 10:56 AM #6476    

 

David Mitchell

And of course there wre those times when we leaned over behind the kid in front of us, as if hiding from her view would insure that she would not call on us - since we had no clue what the answer was.

 

----------------

 

In the news......

A lot of coverage lately of the flooding in Venice (yet again).

For the last few years I have been loosely following the story of the enormous "Mose" project in Venice.   

"MOSE" is an acronym for (MOdulo Sperimentale Elettromeccanico, Experimental Electromechanical Module) and I believe also is rooted in the Italian word for Moses. It is an enormous system of electronic flood gates designed to prevetn the high tides from entering the three channels leading into Venice lagoon/harbor from the ocean. 

Here is a brief video of the concept. There are many more (and longer) videos on You Tube which go into greater detail, showing the concept, the current progress, the mamouth cost overruns, the mafia involvement in the construction companies, the government scandal about the costs and delays, etc, etc, etc. It is quite interesting - a rather ingenious solution if you ask me.

(But I didn't raise my hand, so don't ask me) 

Maybe some day it will be up and working. 




11/14/19 12:42 PM #6477    

 

Michael Boulware

I am not sure where to RSVP for the Mary Clare Christmas Party for our class, so I'll do it here. Sue won't be able to be there so I'll represent our family. Thanks


11/14/19 04:27 PM #6478    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Mike, I have noted your reply but that reminds me to post the invite that hopefully everyone received in email here also. 

 

 

English Holly

Christmas 

Open House

 

December 15, 2019

 

2 pm - 5 pm

 

1798 Ridgeview Road

43221

 

 

Does talk of Barcelona seem far off in terms of time, distance and possibilities?  Can you believe another year is coming to a close?  So how about a little get-together for the holidays?  Janie, Fred, and Clare are putting together another great chance for everyone to greet and meet and, of course, to eat!!!  If you'd like to bring a small unwrapped toy or book, we're collecting items to help Franklin County Children's Services grant children's holiday wishes.  Please stop by Sunday, December 15th, 2 pm-5 pm.  Maybe we'll be lucky enough to have a few friends in from out of town for the holidays.  We'll even have a few door prizes you won't want to miss out on. Hope you can make it. 

 

Janie, Fred, and Clare

rsvp: watterson1966@aol.com

 

English Holly

11/15/19 05:28 PM #6479    

 

John Jackson

Trump buddy Roger Stone was convicted by a jury today on all seven criminal counts of obstructing a congressional investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

If you care at all about what’s happening to our country, I urge you to read the full NYT article (link below) but if you don’t, here are two excerpts:

“The government built its case over the past week with testimony from a friend of Mr. Stone and two former Trump campaign officials, buttressed by hundreds of exhibits that exposed Mr. Stone’s disdain for congressional and criminal investigators. Confronted with his lies under oath by one associate, prosecutors said, Mr. Stone wrote back: “No one cares.” 

and

Mr. Stone, 67, joins a notable list of former Trump aides convicted of lying to federal authorities. It includes Mr. Gates; Michael T. Flynn, the former national security adviser; Michael D. Cohen, the president’s longtime personal lawyer and fixer, and George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign aide. And his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who was also once Mr. Stone’s partner in a political consulting firm, was convicted of a string of financial crimes and is serving a seven-and-a-half-year prison term.

Link to full article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/us/politics/roger-stone-trial-guilty.html?campaign_id=60&instance_id=0&segment_id=18827&user_id=69b07627b4fd88e0657a6f64fab5638e&regi_id=47667229ing-news

There’s an old saying we are all judged by the company we keep.  It should be painfully obvious by now that our president, who pledged to fearlessly drain the swamp, doesn’t give a rat’s a** about corruption.


11/15/19 06:51 PM #6480    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

All roads lead to Putin.


11/15/19 07:34 PM #6481    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

John,

Regarding "by the company we keep":

Thank you for reminding us that (Republican) politicians sometimes are associated with certain individuals who are not particularly saintly persons.

I probably missed it but I do not recall your writing a post here on the Forum about (Democratic) President Obama's connection to people like William Ayers, Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Rev. Louis Farrakahn.

Ooops! I broke my rule not to discuss politics anymore.

My bad.

Over and out,

Jim


11/15/19 08:01 PM #6482    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

Jim, I respect John Jackson and I have no respect for Donald Trump or his followers. So if you can convince me that this is wrong please let me know.

 

 

 


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