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11/09/19 01:38 PM #6449    

 

Michael McLeod

And now to shift from sentiment to science since I know that many people are still either unaware of or in denial about this - and you CAN do something about it.

This from today's NYTimes. Nothing new here - I can tell you that because I've been following it for some time, even assigned it to my class as their term paper, and experienced some of the evidence first hand with Hurricane Dorian.

This story puts together what we know, at this point, quite well.

 

By Eugene Linden

Mr. Linden has written widely about climate change.

For decades, most scientists saw climate change as a distant prospect. We now know that thinking was wrong. This summer, for instance, a heat wave in Europe penetrated the Arctic, pushing temperatures into the 80s across much of the Far North and, according to the Belgian climate scientist Xavier Fettweis, melting some 40 billion tons of Greenland’s ice sheet.

Had a scientist in the early 1990s suggested that within 25 years a single heat wave would measurably raise sea levels, at an estimated two one-hundredths of an inch, bake the Arctic and produce Sahara-like temperatures in Paris and Berlin, the prediction would have been dismissed as alarmist. But many worst-case scenarios from that time are now realities.

Science is a process of discovery. It can move slowly as the pieces of a puzzle fall together and scientists refine their investigative tools. But in the case of climate, this deliberation has been accompanied by inertia born of bureaucratic caution and politics. A recent essay in Scientific American argued that scientists “tend to underestimate the severity of threats and the rapidity with which they might unfold” and said one of the reasons was “the perceived need for consensus.” This has had severe consequences, diluting what should have been a sense of urgency and vastly understating the looming costs of adaptation and dislocation as the planet continues to warm.

In 1990, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the United Nations group of thousands of scientists representing 195 countries, said in its first report that climate change would arrive at a stately pace, that the methane-laden Arctic permafrost was not in danger of thawing, and that the Antarctic ice sheets were stable.

 

Relying on the climate change panel’s assessment, economists estimated that the economic hit would be small, providing further ammunition against an aggressive approach to reducing emissions and to building resilience to climate change.

As we now know, all of those predictions turned out to be completely wrong. Which makes you wonder whether the projected risks of further warming, dire as they are, might still be understated. How bad will things get?

So far, the costs of underestimation have been enormous. New York City’s subway system did not flood in its first 108 years, but Hurricane Sandy’s 2012 storm surge caused nearly $5 billion in water damage, much of which is still not repaired. In 2017, Hurricane Harvey gave Houston and the surrounding region a $125 billion lesson about the costs of misjudging the potential for floods.

The climate change panel seems finally to have caught up with the gravity of the climate crisis. Last year, the organization detailed the extraordinary difficulty of limiting warming to 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit (1.5 degrees Celsius), over the next 80 years, and the grim consequences that will result even if that goal is met.

 

More likely, a separate United Nations report concluded, we are headed for warming of at least 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit. That will come with almost unimaginable damage to economies and ecosystems. Unfortunately, this dose of reality arrives more than 30 years after human-caused climate change became a mainstream issue.


The word “upended” does not do justice to the revolution in climate science wrought by the discovery of sudden climate change. The realization that the global climate can swing between warm and cold periods in a matter of decades or even less came as a profound shock to scientists who thought those shifts took hundreds if not thousands of years.

Scientists knew major volcanic eruptions or asteroid strikes could affect climate rapidly, but such occurrences were uncommon and unpredictable. Absent such rare events, changes in climate looked steady and smooth, a consequence of slow-moving geophysical factors like the earth’s orbital cycle in combination with the tilt of the planet’s axis, or shifts in the continental plates.

Then, in the 1960s, a few scientists began to focus on an unusual event that took place after the last ice age. Scattered evidence suggested that the post-ice age warming was interrupted by a sudden cooling that began around 12,000 years ago and ended abruptly 1,300 years later. The era was named the Younger Dryas for a plant that proliferated during that cold period.

At first, some scientists questioned the rapidity and global reach of the cooling. A report from the National Academies of Science in 1975 acknowledged the Younger Dryas but concluded that it would take centuries for the climate to change in a meaningful way. But not everyone agreed. The climate scientist Wallace Broecker at Columbia had offered a theory that changes in ocean circulation could bring about sudden climate shifts like the Younger Dryas.

And it was Dr. Broecker who, in 1975, the same year as that National Academies report playing down the Younger Dryas, published a paper, titled “Climatic Change: Are We on the Brink of a Pronounced Global Warming?” in which he predicted that emissions of carbon dioxide would raise global temperatures significantly in the 21st century. This is now seen as prophetic, but at the time, Dr. Broecker was an outlier.

Then, in the early 1990s, scientists completed more precise studies of ice cores extracted from the Greenland ice sheet. Dust and oxygen isotopes encased in the cores provided a detailed climate record going back eons. It revealed that there had been 25 rapid climate change events like the Younger Dryas in the last glacial period.

The evidence in those ice cores would prove pivotal in turning the conventional wisdom. As the science historian Spencer Weart put it: “How abrupt was the discovery of abrupt climate change? Many climate experts would put their finger on one moment: the day they read the 1993 report of the analysis of Greenland ice cores. Before that, almost nobody confidently believed that the climate could change massively within a decade or two; after the report, almost nobody felt sure that it could not.”

In 2002, the National Academies acknowledged the reality of rapid climate change in a report, “Abrupt Climate Change: Inevitable Surprises,” which described the new consensus as a “paradigm shift.” This was a reversal of its 1975 report.

“Large, abrupt climate changes have affected hemispheric to global regions repeatedly, as shown by numerous paleoclimate records,” the report said, and added that “changes of up to 16 degrees Celsius and a factor of 2 in precipitation have occurred in some places in periods as short as decades to years.”

The National Academies report added that the implications of such potential rapid changes had not yet been considered by policymakers and economists. And even today, 17 years later, a substantial portion of the American public remains unaware or unconvinced it is happening.

 

In the years since, data has shown that both Greenland and Antarctica have been shedding ice far more rapidly than anticipated. Ice shelves, which are floating extensions of land ice, hold back glaciers from sliding into the sea and eventually melting. In the early 2000s, ice shelves began disintegrating in several parts of Antarctica, and scientists realized that process could greatly accelerate the demise of the vastly larger ice sheets themselves. And some major glaciers are dumping ice directly into the ocean.

By 2014, a number of scientists had concluded that an irreversible collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet had already begun, and computer modeling in 2016 indicated that its disintegration in concert with other melting could raise sea levels up to six feet by 2100, about twice the increase described as a possible worst-case scenario just three years earlier. At that pace, some of the world’s great coastal cities, including New York, London and Hong Kong, would become inundated.

Then this year, a review of 40 years of satellite images suggested that the East Antarctic ice sheet, which was thought to be relatively stable, may also be shedding vast amounts of ice.

As the seas rise, they are also warming at a pace unanticipated as recently as five years ago. This is very bad news. For one thing, a warmer ocean means more powerful storms, and die-offs of marine life, but it also suggests that the planet is more sensitive to increased carbon dioxide emissions than previously thought.

The melting of permafrost has also defied expectations. This is ground that has remained frozen for at least two consecutive years and covers around a quarter of the exposed land mass of the Northern Hemisphere. As recently as 1995, it was thought to be stable. But by 2005, the National Center for Atmospheric Research estimated that up to 90 percent of the Northern Hemisphere’s topmost layer of permafrost could thaw by 2100, releasing vast amounts of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere.

For all of the missed predictions, changes in the weather are confirming earlier expectations that a warming globe would be accompanied by an increase in the frequency and severity of extreme weather. And there are new findings unforeseen by early studies, such as the extremely rapid intensification of storms, as on Sept. 1, when Hurricane Dorian’s sustained winds intensified from 150 to 185 miles per hour in just nine hours, and last year when Hurricane Michael grew from tropical depression to major hurricane in just two days.

If the Trump administration has its way, even the revised worst-case scenarios may turn out to be too rosy. In late August, the administration announced a plan to roll back regulations intended to limit methane emissions resulting from oil and gas exploration, despite opposition from some of the largest companies subject to those regulations. More recently, its actions approached the surreal as the Justice Department opened an antitrust investigation into those auto companies that have agreed in principle to abide by higher gas mileage standards required by California. The administration also formally revoked a waiver allowing California to set stricter limits on tailpipe emissions than the federal government.

Even if scientists end up having lowballed their latest assessments of the consequences of the greenhouse gases we continue to emit into the atmosphere, their predictions are dire enough. But the Trump administration has made its posture toward climate change abundantly clear: Bring it on!

It’s already here. And it is going to get worse. A lot worse.


11/09/19 01:56 PM #6450    

 

John Maxwell

Frank, well done, you're in the lead.

Jim, you could have guessed, but your lab reference was just right. Too numerous to count might be a little overstated, but it beats a stab at the answer.

Joe,
You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.

It takes two to tangle. (The punabriged dictionary.)

11/09/19 01:59 PM #6451    

 

John Maxwell

Mike,
How is it you can cite the NYT, and still walk free in Florida? You are a brave man, bucking the establishment.

11/09/19 02:47 PM #6452    

 

Michael Boulware

Dave,

Our U.K. years were most noted for having the first African American athletes to compete in the Southeastern Conference. We were harassed by the KKK, encountered segregated restrooms and water fountains, racist players ,fans, and officials. We did not realize that we were involved in a social and cultural revolution. One of our black players had his neck broken in a freak accident on the practice field and died. 

A recent documentary was filmed and will be out soon concerning the first blacks in the S.E.C. . It is called "Black In Blue" and should be on PBS soon. 


11/09/19 06:16 PM #6453    

 

David Mitchell

Mike B.,

Absolutely fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing. Where have you been hiding with stories like that? Sounds like there is more where that came from. Kinda reminds me of my arrival in the South (my earlier post about the Shreveport, LA bus station - on the way to Basic trainig at Fort Polk). It's one thing to sit in your comfortable home in Columbus Ohio, watching it on the evening news, but a whole different thing when it's right in your face.

 

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Mike M,

Loved your "family" piece. Heartwarming!  As for that other "warming" - quite an interesting article.

 

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Joe,

Loved your list. Thanks for reminding us that laughter adds value to any conversation.    


11/09/19 06:47 PM #6454    

 

Frank Ganley

To wrestle with the climate change problem. Between 50000 and 100000 years ago the united states entire midwest was covered in ice . In the years leading up to america being settled there was NO ICE covering the entire midwest of  the united atates. Obviously the warming was enought to melt the ice BUT what was the cause since there was no kind of human interferece of any kind. Ok maybe a campfite or two. Who was worrying about greenland losing ice. The ozone hole is completely full. I don't think our changing whatever the propellant in cans of paint or whatever nor we haven't stopped production of of spray cans. Do you realize that one eruption of any volano will spew morecarbon and others gases into the atmosphere in one minute than all the pollutuion all of our cars poison the air in a year.

My dear classmates, raather than worry about our atmoshere we should ifnore the paris accord, china and indea sure ain't in it and take all that meney and try to find a product or process a desert can use that will bring the desert backt to life again.Thank for the read and lets rejoin as a united, friengly, accepting, understanding. Lets have our class being the start of that program       Frank

 

 


11/10/19 11:06 AM #6455    

 

Michael McLeod

Interesting, the perception that some of you have about Florida.

Well guess what?

It's worse than you think.

But it's also better than you think.

Not going to go into it now but when I get some free time (correcting papers and writing article right now - rather, that's what I should be doing) - I'll write up something about the ups and downs of the Sunshine State.


11/10/19 11:43 AM #6456    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

Mike B. Thanks for sharing your seeing Don Holland at your reunion. Did he happen to say anything about John Angel or Mark Buttress?

 Mike M. Would be very interested in hearing your opinion on the "state of affairs" in the Sunshine state. I would be glad to share thoughts on South Carolina as well. (Yawn) 🥴


11/10/19 05:55 PM #6457    

 

Michael Boulware

Mary Ann,

Don lives a pretty good distance from Mark and John, but Bob Curtin and Kevin Cull visited them about a month ago. They said that Buttress and Angel were doing very well and they had a lot of fun with them. That is all I know.

 


11/10/19 10:23 PM #6458    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

John & Dave this will be the last of the "Sentences".

     A thief who stole a calendar got twelve months.

     When the smog lifts in Los Angeles   U.C.L.A.

     I got some batteries that were given out free of charge.

     A dentist and a manicurist married.  They fought tooth and nail.

     A will is a dead giveaway.

     With her marriage, she got a new name and  a dress.

     Police were summoned to a daycare center where a three-year-old was resisiting a rest.

     Did you hear about the fellow whose entire left side was cut off?  He's all right now.

     A bicycle can't stand alone, it's just two tired.

     The guy who fell onto an upholstery machine last week is now fully re-covered.

     He had a photographic memory, but it was never fully developed.

     When she saw her first strands of gray hair she thought she'd dye.

     Acupuncture is a jab well done.  That's the point of it.  and

     Those who get too big for their pants will be totally exposed in the end.

 

I'm not sure but were these first said by Henny Youngman?

 


11/11/19 11:18 AM #6459    

 

Michael McLeod

Joe: Glad that's over with. It was starting to feel like a life sentence.


11/11/19 11:59 AM #6460    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

And a big thanks to all you veterans out there! 

 

Jim 


11/11/19 01:43 PM #6461    

 

David Mitchell

Joe,

those are teriffic !


11/11/19 04:28 PM #6462    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Thanks Joe for all of the laughs!!  And as we are celebrating Veterans Day today, I am posting the following video which is dedicated to all of our military veterans, from the founding of our nation to the present day, especially those members of the Class of '66.  Wih humble gratitude for their selfless service to preserve freedom, not only for Americans, but for people around the world.




11/11/19 06:23 PM #6463    

 

David Mitchell

Thank you Mary Margaret,

Those photos and that music always seem to penetrate my sheild of stoicism.

I have spoken here before about this bit of my experience, and I would like to introduce you to my own bunch of heroes - although some are missing in this shot. (I May post a second shot after).This was a photo at the reunion I wrote about over a year ago on this Forum. This shot is from the back of the Omni Hotel on Hilton Head Island 5 years ago. We were together for the first time in almost 45 years!

Forgive me as I retell some of the same details I have described before. I wanted to set the scene for  a few personal followup stories.

We eventually had ten guys and six wives at the hotel, although they had not all arrived by the time of this photo. A black and white photo of just us guys here was used in an article from the local "Hlton Head Monthly Magazine".

(I got extra copies of the newspaper article and the magazine article and sent all these guys several copies. They LOVED it!  A bit of affirmation after 45 years of silence and disrespect.) 

 

I have described a bit of our extremely unconventioanl tactics, with 2 "Scout" ships ("Loaches") down on the deck at about 6 or 8 feet, and often at rather slow speeds. It was an eyeball reconnaissance mission. Me looking down to my right out the door (with doors off) and foreground through the bottom of the cockpit plexiglass "bubble", and my "observer" looking down from the left seat to the front and left side. (and oh yes, glancing at my instrument panel every few mometns - its nice to ocaisonally know you still have correct engine RPMs and oil pressure - lol). At times we stumbled upon them by surprise, coming under fire immediately, and other times we actually tried to bait them into shooting at us. Remember, as I pointed out before, we were not stupid - just crazy.

Also Cobra Gunships ("guns") up at 1,500 feet, waiting to pounce with gobbs of fire power (rockets and "mini-gun - firing at 6,000 rounds per minute - with a deafening solid roar!) when we screamed "receiving fire" over the radio, dropped a colored marker smoke, and flew off to the side until called back to check out the results. That was an even more nerve wracking part of the process as the "guns" rarely eliminated the entire target on that first pass. So we were often then going back in over them knowing that they knew that we knew they were there - and no more "hide and seek" - no more holding back. But once fired upon, we were then allowed to fire back - but not until first being fired on first - rules of engagement). We also had a mini-gun firing at a "reduced" rate of 2,000 round per minute. We often flew back in "hot" (shooting) on that second pass. There were many crazy moments 

And there was a single Huey, piloted by the "Air Mission Commander" (our C.O., X.O., or "Operations Officer" - all "old guys" - in their late 20's and early 30's) directing the search from about 500 feet.

We also had four more Hueys ("Slicks") waiting back at our nearby staging/refueling field, in case we got in over our heads, and needed to call them to bring troops out to "insert" them around the "problem".

The operation was high risk, and flying in the "Scout" platoon was voluntary for 6 months. Most of us stayed in it for the entire 12 month tour. Although I extended my tour from 12 to 18 months, I did not return to the "Scout" platoon upon my return. Three of the guys who also extended stayed in the Scout platoon for all 18 months. We flew this mission for about two hours+ at a time (one fuel load) - rotating with another pair of teams of two, waiting for their turn to be over and then back out agian for anaaother two hours - ususally two, and sometimes three rotations per day. We did this every day for about 4 days on and one day off. 

I think it is obvious what such a stressful routine can do to a group of people. We employed a great deal of a combination I refer to as "denial wrapped in sarcasm". And we drew close - very close, altough we would not acknowledge it much at the time. This reunion was a coming out party for our pent up emotional atachment. A brotherhood like no other I can imagine. Some of the stuff we would do for one another when we were in trouble really bordered on the ridiculous! 

 

Having said all that, I thought I would share of few of the guys personal "episodes" with you over the next few days. And as always, I promise to keep it fairly "clean".

 


11/12/19 08:00 AM #6464    

 

Michael Boulware

Dave Mitchell,

You appear to be the youngest and best looking guy in the picture. It nust be your Eagle Genes.


11/12/19 11:48 AM #6465    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Nice Veterans Day posts. 

We had our first snow (maybe we've already had flurries) today and I wondered if anyone remembers freshman year one of the nuns- Sr. Francesca or Sr. Norbertine ?? - had a contest to guess date of first snow. 
 


11/12/19 01:44 PM #6466    

 

David Mitchell

Ha!  Mike,

Thanks. I will tell you a joke about that very thought when I get time to get back into some of the rest of the story. 

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And Janie, It is 73 here, but we are going all the way down into the forties tonight - brrrrrrr!


11/12/19 04:38 PM #6467    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Buck ready for the Rut!

No, OSU football fans, NOT the Buckeyes ready to battle Rutgers this weekend, but rather this big buck, resting in back of our house today before taking on all challengers in the November RUT!

 

Armed and dangerous and with a neck that a guard or a tackle would envy!

Jim


11/12/19 06:43 PM #6468    

 

Kathleen Wintering (Nagy)

Ah Janie, Sister Francesca! So many great memories of Latin Class!  Kathy W.


11/12/19 07:02 PM #6469    

 

Michael McLeod

fyi dave

 

https://www.newsweek.com/2017/10/27/us-army-officer-returns-vietnam-chase-enemy-spymaster-686709.html?amp=1&fbclid=IwAR16-rjIioGy7tayseGQCalWSMln5XCYhSKCXDusIdgrk8QuVyApYT5z5NA


11/12/19 09:34 PM #6470    

 

David Mitchell

Thanks Mike M.

I am part way through your article and will have to finish it later.

 

Mike B. 

I have a funny comment in response to your compliment about me in the photo. (BTW, I think it is a horrible shot of me). But in that photo of seven guys, two were not "Loach" pilots. But of the five of us who were, we counted that we were shot down a combined total of 13 or 14 times. And I am the only one of those five who was only shot down once. I joked at the reunion that I was not only the youngest and the best looking, but I was also the smartest, because it only took me one time to learn that "drill" and decide that I did'nt need to repeat it.       I accused them all of being slow learners.  

And there is one guy not pictured who arrived late. He would have added five more himself. I'll add a photo of him with a story later.

At this reunion, we decided (reluctantly at first) to hire a wedding videographer, and hold a recorded story telling session on video. It was about three hours on the second day in one of the hotel conference rooms. It turned out to be magic!  It opened us all up in a cathartic way and for the first time in many years. We only did so after debating weahter or not to do it, when one of the wives asked her husband, "How much longer are you all going to be here?"  That remark answered the questuon for us. 

From the large group shot before, Here's a zoom of three guys for these three stories.

Here are a few abbreviated versions of their stories - some from that video session, others from my own memory. I'll break this into a few sessions.

1) Far left (heavy set, with cain) is a guy named Don from New York City. He was not a "Loach" pilot. He was a 1st. Lt. (later Captain) who flew front seat in a Cobra for a while and then became an Air Mission Commander, flying a Huey and directing the mission (from 500 feet). Although I was not fond of him (a rather rude New Yorker) he was the piiot who was the "AMC" the day I was shot down and landed the Huey to pick me up. My sense of gratitude overrides those personal feelings. * (Don later trained Cobra pilots for the Shaw of Iran until they had to make a sponaneous exit in 1979 - in a matter of hours! He later ran a helicopter passenger business in NYC) 

 

2) Back row, tall - w/blue shirt is a guy named Al from Atlanta. He was a also young 1st Lt. who did fly "Loaches" with our "Scout" platoon. He also became a Captain. The guy came across as a sort of bovine clown, but he is dumb like a fox. And funny - just plain funny! 

His first (of FOUR ! ) shoot downs was a chilling story - but he made it funny. It's just his nature. He made us laugh often at his child-like antics. 

We all had to spend our fist week in the observer (left) seat for a week while the platoon leader (another "old guy" Captain of 24) gave us a quick training. On the seventh day they were shot down and bonked and rolled the ship on it's side in a rice paddy, down east of the U-Minh Forest - a very bad place. Captain Rip Ash (a much smaller guy) climbed out his right side (now pointed up) first. Al, a big guy, climbed out and had a bit of a harder time getting all the way out and got grazed above his collar bone with and AK round. As the two got down and started running, they realized immediately that they were running straight at the source of fire, a large group of NVA "Regulars" in the nearby tree line. They quickly reversed course and started running the opposite direction, only to realize that two more NVA were at the far other end of the paddy, standing full open on a dike line, and firing at them from about 50 yards away with their AKs (AK-47s). So they quickly made a 90 degree turn and began running a third direction when Rip slipped and went face first into the 15 inches of rice paddy water, getting a helmet full of water in his face. So Al, (a big strong guy) grabbed Rip by the back of his (jungle fatigue) shirt collar and picked him up, choking as he came up gasping for breath. By this time the C&C ("Command and Control" ship - that Huey that is piloted by the AMC)  is comming in to get them - under heavy fire, and also close cover from the two Cobra gunships, laying down as much cover fire as they can. 

Al and Rip jumped into the back of the Huey and as they are climbing out, Al (telling us the story at the conference table) recalls, "We dove into the back floor of the ship so fast I almost slid out the other side. And, as we were lifting out I was thinking to myself, just 51 more weeks of this shit and I'll be ready to go home." 

After having us recall most of his story with open mouths, we were howling at his ending! 

That may give you and idea how frantic these scenes could be.

 

3) lower front - wheel chair and plaid blanket. My good friend Bob from Atlanta. You will recall Bob from my story about the bullet next to his spine from his "drug bust" of the drug-dealing senior police officers in Atlanta. He's had the bullet next to his spine fo rover 25 years! He actually wnet back to work on the police force full-time fo 10 years - with the bullet inside him! He has finally had to succomb to heavy pain pills and can no longer drive himself. (p.s. His second wife - blonde in white sweater - is and Angel ! )

Bob was shot down three times, but his worst story is not one of those. He was atempting to land and pick up a wounded guy (hard to fit into a Loach, but the guys on the ground were desperate).

Warning - this one is prettty bad! Skip it if you're uneasy with the hard stuff.

As he hoverd down low and close, the guys lifting the wounded kid up into his backseat were all shot. Bob was taking so much fire he had to pull up and abort the attempt. I think that is enough detail on this one. Sorry, but this story gets really messy. I just wanted you to know a bit of what Bob went through. 

And although he is still a good looking guy (in white hair and beard) I just wantd to remind you what a haandsome dude he was back in the day. A sort of "golden boy" who did everything right and was liked by all. 


11/13/19 10:58 AM #6471    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

Speaking of a "neck that a guard or tackle would envy" - you gave me an idea. Could you get one (or two) of those in a trailer and haul them up to Broncos Headquarters. I know it might be a tough fit for a helmet but anything would be better than Bolles, Leary, or Wilkinson right about now.  They couldn't block my mother!


11/13/19 01:29 PM #6472    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

I Just finished your article posted on your #6486.

Although it seemed to drag on a bit, getting to the point of the story - the meeting, those last few paragraphs spoke volumes to me! I could write volumes explaining his (and mine) frustration with some of our tactics and "management" of the military campaign. A war run by self-absorbed political idiots, who never took the time to really learn anything about the nature of the enemy - or the allies for that matter.

(sound familiar?)

That whole "free fire zone" thing would be a volume unto itself - a volume of poor judgements, miscalculations, errors, and sorry outcomes - not always - but sometimes. My own experience with "free fire zones" was limited, and usually okay, but punctuated with a couple of horrible mistakes. After one tragic incident, I made up my own mind to maintain the normal cautions I was used to in "non free fire" areas - instructions to the contrary be damned. If God gave "do-overs" I would love to have a couple days back, so I could change the outcome. 


11/13/19 04:49 PM #6473    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

I am reposting a note I received to the watterson1966@aol.com email so you can all enjoy our newest member. :)

Dear Janie,

Thank you for all the news.  I will try to be a part of the Message Forum - Class of 1966!  It  will take me time though.  Hello to the Watterson Eagles of '66. 

My best,Sister Gilmary


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