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06/27/17 09:33 PM #1458    

 

David Mitchell

Mark,

You are reading my mind. I have been away and busy and just started your play about  "Jessie" last night. I am frankly surprised how interesting it is. So much of history is random coincidence - and what an amazing series of coincidences she lived with. 


06/28/17 09:20 AM #1459    

Lawrence Foster

Dave,

I am in agreement with the other voices who have spoken out about youwriting your story.  i would love to hear more of it.  Also, thanks for the compliment about liking both types of my "colors."   It is fun to make not only visual images with the paints but also the mental images with the words.

Jodelle,

Your Turkey bowl story was very enlightening to me.  It is not the same Turkey bowl I remember but now I have an idea of where the name came from.  Starting in our sophomore year I remember playing in Turkey Bowls at Whetsone Rec Center which is at the corner of Acton Rd and High Street.  They were still going on with WHS guys from many classes in 1972 when I played in my last one.  Some of those young boys were not too sure about the old guy with the beard and I could see that it was a thing for the high schoolers. Joe Royce was there that day as well as a few guys from the class of 67.  We still had a good time.

In high school we played many weekends in a row during the fall and usually the season ended with the Turkey Bowl.  One year I was in the pile up and heard loud yelling from beneath me.  Classmate Jimmy Kane got his arm  broken.  I felt real bad about that.  But it got worse the next weekend when his younger brother was under me in another pile and got his collar bone broken!  I don't think Mr. Kane was too happy with us for a while.     


06/28/17 11:53 AM #1460    

 

Michael Boulware

The BWHS class of 1966 has been very kind to me. My wife, Sue Lally, has been the best and most important part of my life. My first cousin, Jodelle Sims, typed my Master's Practicum and did it perfectly. Most of my closest friends are Watterson people. I sure am fortunate that I went to Watterson


06/28/17 12:15 PM #1461    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

Dave, here is one more voice chiming in to encourage you to GO FOR IT!  The story you emailed a few weeks  was a story to be shared. Only by hearing different perspectives of a reality can we better understand the full reality.

Tim, come on confess........you actually set up a date with the other guy in Washington and had a great time reminiscing.  Rumor has it you have a new BF.

Mark, now that work is winding down for the summer I am finally able to really enjoy your book. I recommend it, friends....there are lots of familiar names and situations included.    My upcoming comments on Amazon will make you blush, Mark!

Happy Summer, everyone!

 

 

 

 

 

 


06/28/17 05:33 PM #1462    

 

David Mitchell

Did I just hear Mike Boulware make some sort of segway into an anouncement about running for office? 


06/28/17 06:54 PM #1463    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Just a short note regarding the get together on August 26th.

Today I sent out an e-mail to a few individuals from some of the grade schools which funneled indivuals to Watterson asking if they had any desire to attend a 55th Grade School reunion with Watterson graduates.

I have received three responses already.  Jim Croyle will not be able to attend; Ed Spiers (from St James) said he would like to attend; and, if any body knows this next guy who attended IC for a few years then transfered to St. Michael's, Tom Fitzpatrick has marked the date and plans on making an appearance.   If, or when, I hear from any others I will let you know. 

 


06/28/17 08:16 PM #1464    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Joe, thanks for doing that. I sent out the survey and got a few responses with most not being able to attend b/c of living out of state.  Many who follow this forum live all over the country.   Right now I have about a dozen definites but I'm sure there will be twice that. I was trying to gauge interest before locking in a location. Clare mentioned the party room in my building which is really very nice and there is no expense to use it and it wouldn't be so loud like a bar and we could just buy beer and wine and order pizza and do some snacks making the cost easily affordable from the generous donation we received from you. Therefore no cost to those who attend. I'm not sure what my max is here but I think well within the number we anticipate. How does that sound? It's at Parkview and Main in Bexley 2 minutes from on ramp to 70 and 5 minutes from downtown so pretty close to wherever anyone might be headed.  Also easy to take an Uber here and back. Some of you who have been to a reunion committee meeting or worked on stuffing the gold swagbags know the space and can weigh in. There are bar stools and a pool table and tables and chairs and a couch, TV, small kitchenette, piano. Free Parking. I'm glad to have it here if that sounds good. We looked into a few other places such as Watterson that is booked and IC that costs $350 just for the room. Also I'm sure golf on Sunday can be organized. We have the when Saturday evening August 26, 2017 and the what, pizza and beer, so if we can decide on the WHERE I can send everyone and email and post all details on the website right away. I'm excited about seeing Tom Fitzpatrick. I haven't seen him since St. Michael's. Does anyone know what happened to Bob McGivern? I think the idea of adding in grade school classmates is great. Everyone start thinking about that. 


06/29/17 08:15 AM #1465    

 

Robert Berkemer

Michael, you're not the only one who was lucky to attend WHS.....  Special place, special teachers and a special time....


06/29/17 01:02 PM #1466    

 

Mark Schweickart

Joe -- If Tom Fitzpatrick makes an appearance at your gathering, please send him my regards. We were very good friends in grade school. We even had a shared paper route for awhile, until the early morning call got to be too much for him and he left me holding the bag. So now that I think about it, tell him I am still pissed about that and he can just go *#&%$## himself. And furthermore... (wait, wait, take a deep breath, Mark, deep brearth) well... I will let it go for today and will not say anthing more because I am late for my anger management class. Anyway, please tell him I said hello. (That dirty, mumble, grumble, no good, growl, snarl, son of a... easy, Mark, easy. It will be all right,  that was a long time ago, and just a paper route, easy, easy.)

Whew, I think I am okay now. Also tell him that I remember how cool he looked in his St. Michael's letter-jacket. Of course there was no such thing as a St. Michael's letter-jacket, however we were, in fact,  given a letter if we had been on the football team, a nice green "M" trimmed in gold. Tom took it upon himself to not be content with just tossing this into a drawer or pinning it to his bedroom wall, and instead somehow convinced his parents to allow him to get a custom green and gold letter-jacket made, with the awarded "M" sewn to the front and thereby looking just like a highschool jacket. I had to admit that was pretty damn cool looking.


06/29/17 02:24 PM #1467    

 

Mark Schweickart

Janie -- As you know from reading my silly book The Hat Fluffers of Buckinham Palace, Bob McGivern, whom you asked about in your post,  showed up in that. When I was a briefly a freshman at the University of St. Louis, he wandered into my dorm room one day after having driven (in his very cool ex-Checker Cab) to Idaho and back where he had gone, unsuccessfully, to convince an ex-girlfiend to come back with him to Ohio. He had heard that I was at St. Louis U. (Go Billikens! - what a stupid name), and the next thing you know he was living (for free and under the radar) sharing a dorm room with someone else in my hall, although he was not enrolled as a student. When my friend Tom (aka Rasputin) and I decided to drop out of school shortly thereafter and make a run from the long drafting arms of Uncle Sam by hitchhiking our way across the country in order to somehow eventually make it to England where our dream job of fluffing the hats for the Palace guards awaited (whew, that was a nice run-on sentence, and not over yet), It was Bob who drove us outside of St. Louis to begin our journey with out-stetched thumb .

The following year, found me back in Columbus, and now living in a dorm at OSU. Who should I run into again, at the Thirsty I?  None other than Bob McGivern, who was sitting at a table with an 18 year old, pretty pistol of young lady, named Jennie, who would eventually become my first wife.

About ten years later, I ran into him again in Los Angeles, where he was a graduate student in Psychology at UCLA doing some sort of research on the brain structure of rats, or some such thing. When asked how this career shift occurred, he informed me that he had recently been named the "Young Scientist of the Year," by I don't know who, but he added that this was particulalry ironic since he had not been a science major in college, and further claimed that his last science class had been chemistry with Sr. Amy.

Unfortunately, I lost touch with him after that. I wonder where that career path led him. Perhaps someone else out there knows.

I have been encouraged to write a sequel to Hat Fluffers, which I actually did last year. However, I don't think I will publish this. The naiveté and humor and sort of Catcher in the Rye vibe of the first book gave way in the second book to Philip Roth-type adult sexual themes that I now feel may be a bit too personal to print. However, in it, I do have a description of how I met my first wife though Bob McGivern. It  is written in the third person and goes like this:

Mark (or Marq, with a “q” as he sometimes liked to spell his name) was lying on his bed in his dorm room at Ohio State University puzzling over a letter, a letter that would become the first of a series of letters he was to receive over the next few weeks. It ended with:

Why is it that I can see through the window before the door can possibly open....
    I feel so sick, so unnatural sometimes... I want to run and run and run... screaming why.... But I  already know the pattern was made known a long time ago and I feel an obligation to follow through.
     wish I could paint it clearer...just for you...but
                “Something is happening here
                 and you don’t know what it is...    
                 do you Mr. Jones.”
    Marq, I love you and I miss you so.... I hope you know how much.
                 Thou hast committed
                 fornication: but that was in
                 another country, and besides,
                 the wench is dead.    
                            The Jew of Malta

      Dave came bringing more lovely books... so many things to do
                                                      “...Later on when soft Spring came
                  we flew magic kites and played on swings
                  we went broke on silly shopping sprees
                  sang bawdy songs and climbed through trees
                  in wet cement we wrote our names
                  and other wise and witty things.”
       an excerpt from one of Dave’s poems
                        as is this:
                  ... gentle breeze
                  protect my love
                  as you know
                  I must depart.
                  Shelter her
                  from trauma tortures
                  help to mend her
                  shattered heart....
                                                        I am alone now... you haven’t called... not that you will.... I just hope
    It must bore you awfully to read these scribblings.... I am made up of innumerable parts... poets,     musicians, authors, philosophers etc.

Marq, I don’t know what’s wrong with me.... I am so afraid.... Please help me feel safe or     something.

So that was from Jennie. He was trying to break up with her. He had broken up with her, or thought he had. Hoped he had. Or had he? Did he really want to? Of course he did, but this letter didn’t help. It complicated his decision. How many girls had he ever met that talked like this, well, not “talked” really, but wrote like this, thought like this? “Sure,” he thought, “I don’t measure up to fantastic Dave with his constant gift of books and his original poetry hoping to ‘mend her shattered heart,’ but... but what? Let her go write her ‘wise and witty things in wet cement’ with him. Why is she acting as if I am the one she loves?”

Ah, but who was this one? She was a dark haired eighteen year old cutie, a busty high school senior with a slim five foot-two frame, “skinny legs and all,” as Tom Robbins would say. She had the combination of a thirteen year old’s freckle-faced innocence and an eighteen year old’s ripe sexuality bursting at the seams, and a tongue of wit and wisdom, and a few too many demons ready to spin her out of control. She was a force to be encountered. A force he had encountered. Yes, with this one there would always be others competing for her attention and affection. Not just poet Dave, but anyone passing near her bold orbit. And she had boldness in spades.

Consider how Mark and she had met. In Ohio in 1967, one could drink 3.2 beer at age eighteen, so there were bars everywhere catering to the younger crowd. One night at a campus hangout, The Thirsty I (as in, boy am I thirsty), Mark caught up with his friend Bob McGivern, who had also bailed on life in the St. Louis University dorms, and puttered back to Columbus in his trusty Checker Cab—the car he had used to take Mark and Rasputin to the edge of St. Louis the previous year when he dropped them off to begin their sojourn, hitch-hiking across the country. Bob was sitting with Jennie at a table when Mark approached. Small talk ensued, and after a short while Bob got up to put money in the juke box. She shouted to him, “Play Blue Rhondo a la Turk. You know, Brubeck.” Then turning to Mark, she said:
“He’s hopeless, you know. Clueless. The most unobservant guy I know.”
Mark asked, “Is he supposed to be observing something? Paying more attention to you, perhaps?”
“I’ll bet you a nickel that if I suddenly whipped my panties off, he would not even notice.”
She was wearing a mini-skirt, and before Mark could answer, she shoved a nickel towards him, leaned forward and up slightly in her chair, wriggled a bit doing something unobservable below the table, and then straightened up proffering her panties to Mark with a sly smile. As Bob returned, Mark quickly put the panties in his lap so Bob would not see them. Small talk re-ensued. After a minute or two, Mark drew from his pocket a nickel and slid it across the table to Jennie. “You win,” he said. Jennie then proceeded to explain the bet to Bob, letting loose with an oversized hoot of a laugh as Mark produced the panties as evidence. Of course, the bet made absolutely no sense. How could Bob have possibly been aware that the girl sitting next to him was now without panties? But of course Bob’s cluelessness had never been the point of Jennie’s bet. The point had been boldness. Boldness dripping with sexual provocation towards this new guy, Mark. How would he react? Intrigued? You bet. Who cares about the logic of a bet, when a sexy woman is handing you her panties? Virgin Mark was lassoed.

_________

Sorry if I have abused the forum here with my ramblings. I guess since I decided not to publish the sequel, I couldn't resist throwing a bit of it out there for someone to read, and apologize for shamelessly hoping to justify my ego-centrism by claiming it tangentially related to the query about whatever happened to Bob McGivern? Mea culpa. What can I say, it is tough being an unread writer.

 

 


06/29/17 03:12 PM #1468    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

I always enjoy your writing style!  Amazing that we've lost track of Bob yet he appears in print. I'll do some research. I actually ran into him at Deibels on Whittier in German Village back in the early 70's probably. It's now Barcelona I think. Never heard of him again until yes in your book but wasn't sure if that was totally fictionalized. 


06/29/17 10:06 PM #1469    

 

David Mitchell

Mark,

I guess I am not on the same wave length with you on the piece above. I must be missing something.

 

However, I have just completed three evenings enjoying "An Evening with Jessie".

Wow! Great peice Mark! The content is fascinating in and of itself, and the writing is teriffic. The combination of the two is thoroughly enjoyable!  I fancy myself a history buff, and was somewhat aware of Fremont, but the stuff you've dug up is insanely interesting. Where in god's name did you find all that? And the format in which you deliver it is so compelling.

Can I guess that you wrote this to be a "one-woman play" - much like Hal Holbrook's famous "A Night with Mark Twain"? Or the "Give 'em Hell Harry" staring James Whitmore?  I think "Jessie" would be a killer on stage. Is there some way you can cash in on this commercially?


06/29/17 11:23 PM #1470    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Dave, i have asked the same question. I loved it and think it would have theatrical appeal. 


06/29/17 11:32 PM #1471    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dave -- Thanks for the rave review. A big problem with the play is that it is far too long, but so far I have not been able to bring myself to cut it further. I think it would run over 3 hours if done on stage in its present form. Maybe it could be done as a PBS style multi-part presentation. And yes, I was definitely thinking about Hal Holbrook's Mark Twain when I started on this. As for where I got the content, there are several good biographies of Jessie and John Frémont out there, not to mention that they both, especially Jessie, wrote a lot themeselves. And even though there was a very pedestrian mini-series in the eighties starring Mr. mini-series himself, Richard Chamberlain, done as an historical recreation of their lives, to my knowledge no one has done a play about them, and certainly not one focused on Jessie's point of view. Although to be fair, a couple of the biographies I read did focus on her life and perspective. Anyway, I very much appreciate you taking the time to read through it, and am especially pleased to hear that it was an enjoyable read for you.


06/30/17 12:32 AM #1472    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

The best way to cut it down may be to get a director enamored with the story. 


06/30/17 01:54 PM #1473    

 

David Mitchell

Okay, so you cut it down and print what's ommitted in a special program so they can find those parts on their own after being thoroughly entertained by the 2-hour "short version" (with an intermission). Can you just imagine a period costume and a few furniture props and the right lighting with the likes of Kathy Bates or Sissy Spacek doint this on live stage?  In the right market areas, people would line up around the block to see this.

I was actually anxious to get home to continue reading after the first night. 


06/30/17 02:32 PM #1474    

 

Jeanine Eilers (Decker)

Bob McGivern was a juvenile probation officer briefly in the early 1970's as was I.  His office was next to mine.  They hired him at more money than I was making because the presiding judge thought men "needed" to make more.  In true Eilers form I complained and got the same money that Bob made although I had more experience.  I have no idea what happened to him after he left but he didn't stay long.  His callings were in different arenas.


06/30/17 04:16 PM #1475    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)



07/01/17 12:52 PM #1476    

 

Timothy Lavelle

Funny how the mind works...or doesn't. I was wondering if Janie's ability to search would eventually lead to me admitting to having been in jail when another old story landed, almost out of gas, from way back.

The military is a great blending of different folks from differing economical strata, educational levels and so on. It is a wonderful tool in some ways to teach us about our different sorts of brothers and sisters across this fine land. But there are some sorts that were so cross-grained that you can't help but recalling...at Fort Devens in Massachusetts we were in two-story barracks...maybe forty guys to a floor, called a "bay"...upper and lower bunk beds in two long rows on each side of a central aisle. Each set of bunks seperated by rows of lockers...huge mosquitoes called "Canadian Soldiers" trying to dive bomb their way through patched window screens. It was late one night, lights were off but too hot. Everyone was tired from a long day but still goofing and chatting through the dark, waiting for sleep to come. A guy, Smith, down the bay and on the other side moaned loudly and said "Hey, could you guys cut it out, we have to get up early". There was a pause, a real empty silent pause while 39 other guys thought.

Then, someone else said "Hey Smith" and the sleepy complainer answered with a pouty "Whatttt?".

"Do you have any naked pictures of your wife?"

"NOOOOoooooooo" cried Smith, hugely insulted.

Longish pause as we grinned in our bunks.

"Wanna buy some?" asked the tormentor.

Maybve it was thirty minutes later when the sergeant came upstairs and told us all to stop laughing so much and go to sleep.  Just flippin' hilarious.


07/01/17 12:59 PM #1477    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

O.K., here's a topic to discuss: BUCKET LISTS. Not everyone has a bucket list but my guess is many do. So, what are some of the things on that list? Publish that book? Write a Broadway play? Climb Mt.Everest? Win a major golf tournament? Travel to a certain destination? Or maybe just something to do with family or friends.

Let's hear your dreams...

07/01/17 03:05 PM #1478    

 

David Mitchell

Tim,

I can still see it in my mind's eye, just exatly as you described it. And it's still funny. I think a similar scenario must have played out in many a barracks. The strange mix of people thrown together, the irony, the banality, and that "we're-all-in-this-mess-together" moment. 

 

And Jim,  

I seem to recall Tim throwing that same challenge out to us about a month or two ago here on the Forum. I don't recall any takers at the time. But I'll bite on both requests:

a) I'd like to ski again, with my grandkids.

b) And I'd like to find a pizza place down here that was anywhere near as good as Ricardi's (or Tommy's, or Agriesti's, or Tiberzio's, or AnnTon's, or Dante's).

c) And I'd love it if Michael Anthony would please show up at my door with a check.

 


07/01/17 04:57 PM #1479    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

David,

Yes, a check issued anonymously by John Beresford Tipton!

07/01/17 05:07 PM #1480    

 

Fred Clem

David,

"The Millionaire" went off the air in 1960.  That million dollars today, when adjusted for inflation, would be over $8,200,000!  Might as well dream big.


07/01/17 05:45 PM #1481    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

Jim, My husband and I are on our way to a safari trip in Tanzania. We will balloon over the Serengeti on July 7th, my husband's number one bucket list and this will be on July7th, his 70th Birthday.So excited.

 

 


07/02/17 10:53 AM #1482    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Ha! I think we've all been waiting for that check all our lives! 

Mary Ann, that is so amazing! Enjoy every moment and post pictures on your Facebook and here!  Happy Birthday to your husband! 

And Happy 4th of July to all!

 

 


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