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05/30/23 08:23 AM #12697    

Joseph Gentilini

Great story, David M!  One never knows how his or her life touches others, even people we have never met.  Obviously, you both touched each other's life.  Moving. joe


05/30/23 11:17 AM #12698    

 

Michael McLeod

Dave:

Jealous, I am.

That sounds like a fascinating friendship.

I've met many interesting individuals as a journalist but only a small sampling of those folks became friends.

I never get bored but it's because I have more than enough problems and ongoing jobs to keep that from happening. Would like to consider myself retired some day just to see what it's like.

 


05/30/23 02:41 PM #12699    

 

David Mitchell

There is an interesting side story to the retired general from my church - the one who gave the boring address. His wife Jane, who I also know pretty well from church, was herself a Colonel in the Army. But her life story is one with a horrific tragedy.

She was one of the 50 plus rape victims of the "California Rapist" (James DeAngelo), who's story broke in the news a few years ago. He also murdered about a dozen women - and he was a cop! The final details of the last few days of the search (after maybe 30 years of him remaining un-caught) are crazy. They finally nailed him after matching his DNA from the garbage in his dumpster.   

I learned of the story almost by accident from an NBC News special one night about 3 or 4 yers ago. I was lying on my couch, sort of half paying attention to the story on the TV. I kept seeing a woman's face that looked familiar. She was one of the living victims who was part of the news story. Then, on about the fourth time they showed her, she was speaking on camera and I realized who it was. I almost jumped off the couch as I yelled to myself, "My God, that's Jane!"  As a young single mom, he broke into her house and tied her 8 year-old son to the bed where he then raped Jane in front of her son.

After all those years, there were only about four people who still actuvely pursued the case, one of whom was a TV comedy writer who followed it as an amatuer detective (He died before the arrest). There were also about three cops or retired cops who kept on it for years. One of the few active detectives still following the case actually pulled up in front of the guy's apartment, knowing that he had him, but decided not to go to the door and make the arrest without backup. The next day was his retirement day, but other officers went back and made the arrest that next day.

It's simply an amazing story, and Jane was one of the women who were able to attend the trial.


05/30/23 11:16 PM #12700    

 

Mark Schweickart

Jack -- sorry that I am a day late in responding to your jokes, but I just read them and have got to say that they were definitely laugh out loud funny. Thanks for the guffaws. 


05/30/23 11:36 PM #12701    

 

David Mitchell

Yes, Jack. Ditto from me too.

And I should tell you that we have no laws against stupidity down here in South Carolina, or Georgia for that matter.

The lady who ran third in the last Georgia Governors race on the platform "Jesus, Guns, and Babies", was recently elected to some minor local chairmanship in the Georgia Republican party. She is somewhere on You Tube arguing that all these people who insist on promoting that idea that the world is globe shaped are crazy. "Globes everywhere you look. They are forcing this on my kids." 

I wish I could find the video, but I think I read somewhere that she is a school teacher.

God help us!


05/31/23 10:26 AM #12702    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Dave - stupidity or ignorance or lunacy, however you identify it, is rampant throughout the leadership of both parties......just sayin'.


05/31/23 11:00 AM #12703    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

Jack, we spent our honeymoon in the Canary Islands and I can confirm this to be true. laugh

Not so sure about the Virgin Islands.  Ok, have any of you guys gone there to do research on the.....ahem,  bird(s)?   


05/31/23 12:35 PM #12704    

 

John Maxwell

Thanks Dave. It's comforting to know I'd fit right in, in the South, guh.

Mark, I was beginning to get concerned.

05/31/23 09:12 PM #12705    

 

David Mitchell

I don't know about the rest of you, but I just don't think we get enough news about Harry and Meghan, William and Kate, and the rest of the Royal Family.

Don't you all agree?

 


06/01/23 12:29 PM #12706    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Dave, you think you are getting too much news about the royals? This is just for you. wink

 


06/01/23 07:49 PM #12707    

 

David Mitchell

Gee!  Thanks Janie


06/02/23 12:39 PM #12708    

 

John Maxwell

It's nice to know that there are funnybones out there that enjoy a good tickle. Of course no one can account for sticks in the mud. Just finished a short book from John Cleese about creativity. Good stuff. Still working at Henry Ford. Been presenting in the printing office. They have an 1858 model of the Washington Press.
We use a rubber based ink, that takes a day to dry. We hand out copies of the stuff we print to the guests. There are quite a few criteria to fullfil before the press prints exact copies. The hardest is getting the ink thin enough to be consistant. Who knows which decade had the most daily newspapers established in America. One of the things I've discovered was that the small print shops that dotted the countryside were just as plentyful in the big cities, dispite having a major newspaper. The shop in the neighborhoods were mostly printing in a foriegn language. The shops were started by immigrant entreprenuers who fullfilled the desire of the neighborhoods to get both local news and the news from the old country. The beauty of this, I believe, is that everyone, regardless of their native toungue, they all got the news the same way. Out in the rural areas they got the local news and ads plus a boilerplate was usually provided by the big city newspapers covering national, international news and advertising. When Franklin invented syndicating, he would print the writings of the time on one side of his paper and print copies to send to all the colonies. I always wondered how everyone got on the same page re the revolt. Next up Armington and Sims, incubator for the Military Industrial Complex. Its a cool story.

06/02/23 04:32 PM #12709    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Professor Mike.  The Wall Street Journal had a very interesting story, in today's edition, regarding the way to combat "AI" on final eams.  A number of professors are using a 2000 year old method.  ORAL EXAMS.

What is your take on the subject?

 

 


06/02/23 05:07 PM #12710    

 

David Mitchell

Great thought Joe.

How would the students hide their lack of study from that? 

 

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Jack, 

Your prior post reminds me in a small way of a film about 3 years ago. It was called "News of The World" starrring Tom Hanks and a 10 or 12 year-old German girl. He makes a living riding around West Texas after the Civil War, carrying newspapers from the big cities. He organizes audiences who each pay a few dollars to sit in the audience while he reads them the various headlines from the rest of the world - news they would have no other way of hearing. I know it seems like an odd premise for a story, but I was caught completely by surprize by it.     I loved it!

And the the little girl, who only has about 10 spoken lines in the entire movie, absolutely steals the show!


06/03/23 03:57 PM #12711    

 

Michael McLeod

Joe. Thank you! I will track that story down. Yes, oral testing is one way of doing it but that requires a subjectivity and on-the spot judiciousness. A class on writing doesn't lend itself to yes or no answers or the ability to think in real time - that's the gift of writing, it's the product of you spending time to mull things over. A lot of klunky students are more comfortable on the page than in person - in a way I'd call myself one of them.  I'm not saying I won't try that approach, though. It might just be that the wsj story convinces me it will work.

In the meantime I have been thinking this over and developing strategies, one of which was suggested by my significant other and I'm assuming is paralleled by the wsj: simply make them write in class. Write in class to a specific assignment I will provide at the beginning of that class. collect the papers at the end of class.  Make their grade in the class rely much more on that in-class writing than on the final paper. 

In the past I have operated in reverse. I had the students develop a term paper with feedback from me along the course of a semester.  I did have them write in class but I gave them a break by saying if you can improve over the course of the term and prove it with your final paper, I'll weight that accordingly. I'll reward you for your progress. Good students loved it, and I could see that they did improve. Shitty students slogged along and cheated at the end.

 It's easy to spot them but hard to prove. The ai writing looks like it was written by a straight a but utterly boring and unimaginative student with zero personality. 

Anyway: This time around their grade will depend much more on supervised, in class writing. 

By narrowing the focus of assignments - whose subjects will be a surprise to them - I'll  make it much harder for them to concoct an "A as it AI" paper.

I've been told canvas can be of help - canvas is a grading/turn-it-in system - but haven't found out how. I'll be checking in with other profs this summer about that and any other ideas. 

And thanks again for your suggestion and your interest. Honesly, I'm mortified by this - also pissed off. I'm not a full time teacher, just a practitioner trying to share the tricks of the trade,  but I do take pride in it and by golly I'm gonna get to the bottom of this latest pain in the butt. Teachers of every ilk gotta stick together these days, particularly down here. 

 


06/03/23 09:06 PM #12712    

 

David Mitchell

Mike and Joe,

I vote for the "in-class" writing sessions.

Both of my daughters and my dauhter-in-law have been teachers, albeit at grade school levels. My oldest was one of you egg-head English Majors (from John Carroll) who avoided getting a degree in education and swore she would never want to be a teacher. Low and behold she took a part time job in a public school in East Los Angeles, teaching inner city Latino low income kids and fell in love with the kids. It led to a full time job in a school in East L.A. where she taught one same group from kindergarden through third grade. Why she took a job she thought she woudl hate, I'll never know, but she loved it and stayed for four years (until the politics of the LA school system drove her crazy and she quit).

She made the kids write in class every single day - and then had as many as possible read their short papers in that same class. The kids grew to love it. Some parents (low income Hispanic with two rival gangs located at each end of the block next to the school) even commented on how much their kids were looking forward to school each day. Sara (my oldest daughter - Watterson about '91) made the whole idea a fun challenge, praising the kids all the time for how well they were doing and how fun it could be to get up and be recognized by their clssmates.

Sara taught in a parallel class with an other a class, taught by teacher who was a 25 year veteran Hispanic lady who hated her job. Her kids were seldom assigned to write anything. 

After 4 years with the same kids, Sara's class showed a steady increse in academic scores, while the older lady's class flat lined. On her final day several of the mothers cried and one of them tried to block Sara's car from leaving the parking lot. She had to get the principal to intervene so she could drive home to her apratment over in South Pasadena.

So much of our attitudes toward education tends to look at it as a chore, something to be dreaded, or at best, tolerated instead of enjoyed. I think this is something Sister Constantius (and a few others) were able to get me to realize. 

 

P.s. Bragging just a bit:

(My youngest - Megan - Watterson about "94) became a Montisorri teacher in Portland Oregon and later moved back to Cincinnati (she was a Xavier Alum). She spent a few years teaching in a Montisorri inside the University of Cincinnati Medical School. The kids were all handicapped. It was both a real Montisorry School and a reasearch project for the U.C. medical school at the same time. 


06/04/23 08:27 AM #12713    

 

Michael McLeod

 

Joe and Dave: thanks for the feedback.

I know I have said this before but I am - I just love teaching. I'm at the point in my life when it's a joy and a responsibility to share what I learned in 50 years of banging my head against the keyboard. And I feel embarrassed and hurt at being undercut. It's almost like walking into my house and discovering that a thief broke into it. 

This against the backdrop of education being under seige and subject to politically oriented censorship in this state.

So I really appreciate your responses for the sentiment as well as the strategy.

And Dave I have never met your daughter but I'm proud of her just the same. My significant other is vintage Montessori, with deep roots in the tradition as it has evolved on this side of the pond, and she astonishes me with her practice and her grasp of its core humanist principles.


06/04/23 12:55 PM #12714    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

I know wev'e gotten a bit off topic, but just to add a bit for you --

I have visited both of my daughters classrooms (years ago - they have both moved on) and had different but wonderful experiences in both.

My youngest - back in her Portland Oregon days (before Cincinnati), showed me her Montessori classrom and all the physical "hands-on" devices they employ in the classroom. It was quite a revelation - very logical and very intuitive. I never got to see her handicapped Montessori classroom at U.C.

And I visited my older daughter in East L.A. while the kids were there in a class session. I was pleasantly shocked to see their high level of engagement and enthusiasm! 

 


06/04/23 09:47 PM #12715    

 

John Jackson

Last night at a nearby live music theater I saw Natalie McMaster (Scottish style Cape Breton fiddler) and her husband Donnell Leahy (Irish fiddler from Ontario) but their 17 year old daughter Mary Frances (oldest of their seven kids) stole the show.  I’ve never cared all that much for Irish-style step dancing but…

 



Natalie is usually front and center but here she just takes a back seat to her (equally talented) husband and daughter.

 

 


06/05/23 08:02 AM #12716    

 

Michael McLeod

ok between that and my morning coffee I'm ready to charge right into the work week thanks John.


06/05/23 02:47 PM #12717    

 

David Mitchell

John,

I think I have about 6 nieces in Columbus who all were in step dancing groups for years. 

I have wondered if it was an ancient Celtic thing, and if so, could it have been a "decendant" of the Austrian "slap dancers"?  

Skip forward to about 55 seconds on the timer of this video. And don't miss the last part - "slap dance fighting".  I first saw "slap dancers" in the summer of '65, (junior year) when I spent about 9 weeks living in Salzburg.

 

(BTW, it was the same summer they had released "The Sound of Music", shot in and around Salzburg, one of the most picturesque cities in the world.)

 




06/05/23 03:29 PM #12718    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

John J. and Dave M.,

Since you OLP grads have introduced the topic of international vigorous folk dancing, how about a trip to southern Italy where the Tarantella dance originated. It has a very interesting medical history that you both may want to explore. I believe Chuck Mangione had an album by that name.

Jim


06/05/23 10:48 PM #12719    

 

Michael McLeod

I know we're keeping politics at a distance here,but this is a fairly tepid observation: I don't see pence as the long shot for the nomination that he's being portrayed as being. 

There's something awkward with that sentence but I'm  off duty.

Just seems to me he'd be a serious candidate with a good chance of winning.

There's a humorous observation about him in the Times today in a story about his electoral viability: "He has presidential hair."

Not sure how widely know  it is but when the secret service tried to evacuate him for his own safety on Jan 6 he refused to leave the capitol. That took guts.

 


06/05/23 10:58 PM #12720    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

What weird name for a dance - named for tarantula (spiders), or rather, the disease received from a tarantula bite.

 

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Back to Austrian Slap Dancing for a moment, here is a brief tour of the central "old city" of Salzburg, Austria, home of Mozart and the huge annual world wide Mozart Music Festival (and my home for the summer of '65). Just about every prominent building, statue, and fountain is lit up for the entire month. You might recognize a bit of this from the movie. The Castle in the background is Schoss HohenSalzburg, built in about 1,100. Salzburg ("Salt town" or "Salt city") was a strategic Roman stronghold for it's salt mines, which are all around Salzburg.

The second photo is taken looking across Mirabel Gardens up at the distant Castle. You might recall a scene where Maria and the Von Trap children danced up and down those steps. I walked through that park often.

The third photo is a bunch of my classmates walking up to the overlook at the old Cafe Winkler, a scenic outdoor restaraunt that has been torn down in place of an art museum. I seem to recall a scene from the movie up there too. The man in the white shirt and dark hat was OSU German language professor Harold Lentz, who, along with his wife, organized and lead our trip.

(I think we were about 60 college kids and 40 high school kids. We lived with locals - my 4 "roomies" (2 college - 2 High school) had an almost invisible widow apartment owner, so we didn't get any "family connection". She put out breakfast rolls and jam and coffee and tea in the morning, and would then disappear for the rest of the day. My roomie, a kid one year older from Mansfield Senior High turned out to be one of the neatest parts of my summer. We had a ball together.)

(I had just learned from my uncle how to use a real camera - my dad's old  35mm 1953 Kodak Retina II-a. A couple of us had fun using our cameras at night, guessing at varoius timed exposures of those lighted buildings - using a tri-pod and a shutter release cord. They came out pretty good.) 

Note: that last shot if one of the worlds least known "slap dancers" in his "lederhosen". 

 

 


06/06/23 04:53 PM #12721    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

If you have 30 minutes to invest in reviewing a video, I am looking for some honest. respectful feedback on the User Forum.


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