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04/12/22 05:46 PM #10956    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks to all, once again. It really does touch me. My attention turns now to the son I have left. 

 

 


04/12/22 11:10 PM #10957    

 

David Mitchell

 

Mary Margaret,

I just got around to catching up to your post # 10946.

I am also disturbed by the covering over of this Great Barrngton Declaration. It is the act of covering up that I mostly object to.  Howerver, they seem to agree with me that certain poeple should be vaccinated, with perhaps a slight difference of opinion in age groups (and I must defer to their knowledge on that point). And they agree with my sense that closing the schools, at least to for the younger kids was a terrible idea.

And I still don't fully understand what "Hurd immunity" actually is? 

(- nor do I understand what "heard" immunity is. Where is Nina when I am trying to spell something?)  

 

But trying to decipher the rest of your coments is bewildering. You state that; 

"I am personally up-to-date on my necessary innoculations," What neccesary innoclulations are you referring to? Those that are mandated by school systems throughout the country like diptheria, measels, mumps, pertussis, rubella, tetanus, and (I forget the last one, somebody help me here)? Why on earth would you give your permission to take those? Was it because they are "mandatory"?

Curious to know if you chose not to get a polio shot back in grade school, when our teachers lined us up for the mandatory poke in the arm - with our parents consent?

(and why on earth do you submit to those doggone yellow lines down the middle of the road. Aren't they a form of government mandate? And do you realize how much more our housing costs due to those darn building codes - mandated by local governments.)

And I thought the term "anti-vax" simply meant people whe were opposed to getting the vacination. There seemed to be two sides (as in every argument) - "pro" and "con" or  "pro-vax" and "opposed vax". "Anit-vax" is simply a shorter spelling of the exact same thing. You can imply whatever intentions you want to the terms. I fail to see how it was a criminlalization any more than the other side was.  If I am a Michigan fan, I am "anti-Buckeye". It is what it is. I'm not sure if it seemed to exhibit a certain sense of defiance or an outright selfishness. "It's all about my rights" and public heath be damned. Again, we seem to foget two fundamental points - we live and work close to one another and it is contageous! 

 

p.s.

back to the Breat Barrington Report cover-up; I was never a fan of Dr. Francis Collins from the get go. We have now learned that  he was the more pro-active of the two to advocate a cover-up. And you can all laugh your heads of at my reason - it is downright childish of me, but it is true. I do NOT trust guys who wear a "rug" (hairpiece). I am dead serious! 


04/12/22 11:13 PM #10958    

 

David Mitchell

It occurs to me that this same arguement could be used to debate a "mandatory" draft.

Boy, I bet that would divide the group fast.


04/12/22 11:26 PM #10959    

 

David Mitchell

This could be the quote for the day, or maybe for the century, but it boggles the mind. 

"I may be the most honest human being God ever created."

 

And guess who said it? (two days ago, I believe at a rally in North Carolina)


04/13/22 01:47 AM #10960    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave M.,

I have stated in past posts my views on vaccines and mandates and I shall not repeat them.

However, I do have some questions for you which would have medical, financial, political and other implications. And I admit I don't have all the answers.

Which vaccines should be government mandated for anyone seeking entrance (legally or otherwise) into the United States? Who should pay for them? And why are they not being done?

It is possible that sometime soon a vaccine to prevent HIV may become available. Should such a vaccine be mandated for everyone? 

Should yearly influenza vaccinations be mandatory for all?

Should Hepatitis A and B vaccines be mandated for all adults?

Tuberculosis is very prevalent in - particularly - homeless populations. Should skin testing and/ or chest x-rays be mandated for all these people? And who should pay for them?

Meningococcal disease is currently having an outbreak in some of southern states, especially in HIV positive individuals. Should this population be mandated to receive a menigococcal vaccine?

Of course, none of the above are currently in a pandemic mode (except for COVID in immigrants) but they all represent public health threats.

Jim


04/13/22 10:17 AM #10961    

 

Michael McLeod

Any classical music lovers out there? I may get a chance to interview yuja wang. 

o my goodness. she is a goddess. she is not of this earth. 

playing rechmaninoff two down here in a few weeks.

she's obsessed with the russians. She once said "I have that blood." She sure plays like it.


04/13/22 10:33 AM #10962    

 

Michael McLeod

 Democracy in Danger.

From a story about a recent study:

I think we all know this but it's interesting to see it spelled out.

I probably should have blacked on a name or two - well maybe just the one - so it would be easier for people to read it through  for the principles, not the specific people and parties, that are involved in a dangerous dynamic. 

Democracy, as a principle, deserves more respect that it's been getting, in practice, of late.

 

Ordinary citizens play a critical role in maintaining democracy. They refuse to re-elect — at least in theory — politicians who abuse their power, break the rules and reject the outcome of elections they lose. How is it, then, that Donald Trump, who has defied these basic presumptions, stands a reasonable chance of winning a second term in 2024?

Milan W. Svolik, a political scientist at Yale, anticipated this question in his 2019 paper, “Polarization versus Democracy”: “Voters in democracies have at their disposal an essential instrument of democratic self-defense: elections. They can stop politicians with authoritarian ambitions by simply voting them out office.”

What might account for their failure to do so?

In sharply polarized electorates, even voters who value democracy will be willing to sacrifice fair democratic competition for the sake of electing politicians who champion their interests. When punishing a leader’s authoritarian tendencies requires voting for a platform, party, or person that his supporters detest, many will find this too high a price to pay.

In other words, exacerbated partisan competition “presents aspiring authoritarians with a structural opportunity: They can undermine democracy and get away with it.”

Svolik and Matthew H. Graham, a postdoctoral researcher at George Washington University, expand on Svolik’s argument and its applicability to the United States. Supporters of democracy, they contend in their 2020 paper, “Democracy in America? Partisanship, Polarization, and the Robustness of Support for Democracy in the United States,” can no longer rely on voters to serve as a roadblock against authoritarianism:

"We find the U.S. public’s viability as a democratic check to be strikingly limited: only a small fraction of Americans prioritize democratic principles in their electoral choices, and their tendency to do so is decreasing in several measures of polarization, including the strength of partisanship, policy extremism, and candidate platform divergence."

only a small fraction of Americans prioritize democratic principles in their electoral choices when doing so goes against their partisan identification or favorite policies. We proposed that this is the consequence of two mechanisms: first, voters are willing to trade off democratic principles for partisan ends and second, voters employ a partisan ‘double standard’ when punishing candidates who violate democratic principles. These tendencies were exacerbated by several types of polarization, including intense partisanship, extreme policy preferences, and divergence in candidate platforms.

The authors have calculated that “only 3.5 percent of voters realistically punish violations of democratic principles in one of the world’s oldest democracies.”

Graham and Svolik go on:

To get a sense of the real-world relevance of this implication, consider that in 2016 only 5.1 percent of US House districts were won by a margin of less than 6.9 percent — the smallest margin that is necessary for violations of democratic principles to be electorally self-defeating. That share of districts was still only 15.2 percent in 2018. Put bluntly, our estimates suggest that in the vast majority of U.S. House districts, a majority-party candidate could openly violate one of the democratic principles we examined and nonetheless get away with it.

Graham and Svolik tested adherence to democratic principles by asking respondents whether they would vote for a candidate who “supported a redistricting plan that gives own party 10 extra seats despite a decline in the polls”; whether a governor of one’s own party should “rule by executive order if legislators don’t cooperate”; whether a governor should “ignore unfavorable court rulings by opposite party-appointed judges”; and whether a governor should “prosecute journalists who accuse him of misconduct without revealing sources.”

“Put simply,” Graham and Svolik write, “polarization undermines the public’s ability to serve as a democratic check.”

Graham and Svolik’s analysis challenges the canonical view of the role of the average voter as the enforcer of adherence to democratic principles. In their 1963 classic, “The Civic Culture: Political Attitudes and Democracy in Five Nations,” Gabriel A. Almond and Sidney Verba, political scientists at Stanford and Harvard, wrote:

"he inactivity of the ordinary man and his inability to influence decisions help provide the power that governmental elites need if they are to make decisions. But this maximizes only one of the contradictory goals of a democratic system. The power of elites must be kept in check. The citizen’s opposite role, as an active and influential enforcer of the responsiveness of elites, is maintained by his strong commitment to the norm of active citizenship, as well as by his perception that he can be an influential citizen.."

 

 


04/13/22 11:48 AM #10963    

 

Frank Ganley

Mike your last paragraph is the reason for a fair and confident voteNo thing is more frustrating to citizens feeling that no matter what their vote doesn't matter. In our last election whether you want to believe it not that was the case. Regardless what trumps attorney general mr Barr said I believe as do many many others that the election in fact was compromised. Reports of Republican witnesses being held out of sight of the counting, huge votes in several precincts going 100% for Biden and the total votes cast exceeded the total of voters eligible to vote. Recently what once called nonsense and republicans castigated by the media and the public but it is more known fact, hunter Biden laptop is real. Polls have indicated that had that been pursued and not dismissed many 63% of those who voted for Biden would have changed their vote. Further more coo conspirators with " Biden the stupid " that daddy has his hand in the cookie jar as they all under oath repeated that Joe Biden was "the big guy" note that this has come to light that the president has been , as goner payle would say " I'll gotten gains from his position. A compromised president or lawmaker is dangerous and with our non participation in the war against Russia, his lack of strength against the Chinese become painfully evident. I know Dave m and mike m will now bloviate on the rediculousness of all these facts. It come out that all of these things were done for the simple purpose of getting rid of trump.i ask again" how's your gas prices, how's the shelves in your stores and not just grocery stores. I frequent music stores looking for great deals on great guitars, there are none. Sam Ash, musicians friend, and the like are hurting from lack of inventory. Get a deal on a car, yea right , they are all selling over sticker. All caused by as Dave m would say you guessed it! But it is Biden the great they, seller of America, the bringer downs of our country who is responsible. All these lies about trump did this, Trump did that ! When?!!!! Before he was president, I think not. Did he have affairs while in the White House , no, several of our great presidents did and I don't have to name them you all know. Why such hate for the man when in office everything he promised was completed or on its way only to be blocked by a damaged candidate. As Brandon would say"come on man" It is often said that the accuser is pointing a very loud finger at his opposition to cover up what he is actually doing. If it was such a fair and legal election, why would the dumbocraps not just open the books for a recount? Makes you think! As Shakespeare said of liars " me thinks thou doth protest too much"!


04/13/22 02:19 PM #10964    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

Those are all good questions. I do not have the answer to them, so I won't attempt to pretend that I do. Do you have those answers? I was attempting to answer what I thought was confusing reasoning on one particular question.

However, I will offer my feeble attempt at a different answer on the illegal immigrant problem - or shall we call it the "Wall" issue.

Let's acknowledge a few facts;

We all know it IS happening. And we all know that portions of a very expensive wall have been erected. But the wall is not covering the entire border, nor can it ever in some rugged geological sections of the border. And we already know that simple harware tools can cut through sections of the wall structure, (I'm told they have made videos of themselves cutting through the steel with tools available from Home Depot or Lowe's), and that people can use ropes to throw over and hoist themelves over the top. So it will likely never be 100% effective.

But I think the wall itself is the wrong idea altogether. It treats the effect and ignores the cause.

As I read more and more articles about the widespread violence - and I mean horredous, vicious, violence - of the cartels against the poor people of rural Mexico and Honduras, and Guatamala, etc., I question how anyone can balame them from risking everything to escape to safety. Which of the people crossing our border would you order to be sent back into that nighmare of widespread senseless murder, rape and robbery? 

A study by two Pentagon military colonels was done some years back (wish I could find it to print it, but it's been years) concluded that it would cost less to help, and/or force several of those Central American countries to "change" their societies by pledging political and economic incentives AND sanctions that would re-direct their agricultural economies and their government abuses of poor and native minorities. Their study showed that the cost for such a porgram would be in the billions, but many billions less than the cost of the wall. 

 

I myself would go even further. Our spineless government would never do this, but I would send American troops into Mexico's central rurlal areas to fight along side of the few brave Mexican troops. The tactic would be simple. Airlift overwhelming and heavily armed mixed forces into a section or two at at time, surround the Cartel chiefs in their well-protected hideaways, and slowly close the circle by wiping out their (formidable and heavily armed) protection "armies". 

Of course, you also know that I would also expect to see pigs learn to fly helicopters before our government would do this. But at this pace, there may come a day where the threat is on a par with the currrent Ukraine situation. 

One more thing. Mexican Cartel personel have been (for years) buying guns in Ameircan gun shops in Texas, and Arizona by the truckload. It is my understanding that they are not subject to any type of inspecton or restrictions at the border going back into Mexico. Why on earth are we allowing this?

p.s.

We have a large community of Hondurans here in this part of South Carolina - most of them lega,l and terrific workers - typically in landscaping and construction - manual labor. They all tell the same stories of corruption and violence in their native communities. They just want a safe life!


04/13/22 10:22 PM #10965    

 

John Jackson

There is no way we can open up our Southern (or any) border and let anyone in who wants to come.  But the demonization of those who risk everything to flee horrendous conditions in their own countries as disease ridden and sub-human, a staple of right wing media, is mean-spirited and deplorable.  And, like Dave, my experience with those who do manage to stay is that they are extraordinarily hard working and in a generation or two, they are likely to become productive mainstream Americans in much the same way as the Irish, the Italians and other feared ethnic groups did in the 19th century.  

Can't we have a middle way on the immigration issue?


04/14/22 11:02 AM #10966    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Thank you Jim for posing questions for all of us to think about.  I have some of my own.

Is anyone following the situation in Shanghai? If you are, what are your thoughts?  Did anyone hear Fauci's response?  If so, what are your thoughts?  Is Covid a pandemic or is it endemic?  Are the CDC, the FDA, and Fauci seeking "zero" Covid cases like China and Australia and Canada? Is this rational?  Is the VAERS reporting system a conspiracy theory?  Has no one died from the mRNA shots?  Has no one been seriously disabled or injured?  Should those persons and their family's experiences be dismissed without investigation by the pharmaceutical companies? Why did Pfizer want to seal its mRNA documents for 75 years?  Is it right to demand every single man, woman and child be forced to get an experimental shot for which there are no long term studies?  Are there no other viable, effective, and safe therapies to be used against Covid? Should little innocent two year olds be forced to wear a mask for 8 hours a day while in a daycare setting as the city of New York is still mandating?  What is the effect on children who have been seeing everyone in a mask for the past two years and not seeing facial expressions?  How do toddlers learn language and how do we expect them to begin to have an understanding of emotions?  Do the teacher's unions, the hospital administrators, the AMA, the school boards, the pharmaceutical companies, the government's alphabet agencies, FB, Twitter, YouTube, Google, etc. all have indisputable and unarguable truth on their side?  Why won't they allow for uncensored and honest debate?  If the truth is on their side, what are they afraid of?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2022/04/13/why-is-dr-fauci-saying-anything-positive-about-china-n2605857


04/14/22 11:25 AM #10967    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave, 

My questions were about mandates for vaccines and I did not really mean to get into the realm of illegal immigration. However, I do feel for those trying to come to another country for a better life. You seem to want to follow the law - yellow lines in driving, building codes, etc. - and so do I. So that should also include immigration laws.

I believe that laws are passed by the legislative branch of government (congress) and I know of no federal law that demands everyone should be vaccinated against COVID. As for my medical thoughts, I highly recommend most people do get vaccinated. From what I can find on the internet, a mandate is not a law, and neither is a presidential mandate, since a president cannot make a law.

I was impressed by your plan for a military type of approach to deal with the drug cartels. Since that is perhaps the major root cause of our illegal immigration problem I would suggest you write to the person put in charge of solving illegal immigration, VP Harris, who has stated she wants to address the root cause.

Jim 

 


04/14/22 11:37 AM #10968    

 

Michael McLeod

Ok, for purposes of practicality, I suggest we pass out a sign-up sheet and everybody pick one of the questions Mary Margaret poses above to answer. That way,if we start now, we can finish up in time for the reunion.

Who's with me?

 

 


04/14/22 11:38 AM #10969    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

I guess that was a joke!  Okay....let's me narrow it down a bit....Is anyone following the situation in Shanghai? If you are, what are your thoughts?  Did anyone hear Fauci's response?  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2022/04/13/why-is-dr-fauci-saying-anything-positive-about-china-n2605857  If so, what are your thoughts?  Is Covid a pandemic or is it endemic?


04/14/22 12:57 PM #10970    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

As a prosecuting attorney, I hear Kamala Harris was pretty good. But as a VP, I think she's completely out of her depth.

If I had been making the choices for the Dems VP, I would have chosen Val Demmings, a tough, no-nonsense Black woman from Florida who was the first Black and first Woman in the all-white, racist Orlando Police Dept. I beleive she later headed their swat division and finaly ended up as the police chief. You might recall her asking hard questions during the first Trump impeachment trial (during which, the whole world could clearly see that both Trump and Hunter Biden were guilty as hell.)


04/14/22 01:14 PM #10971    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave, 

You know, of course, I mentioned the letter to the VP with " tongue-in-cheek" since she has done zilch about the border situation.

Jim


04/14/22 02:10 PM #10972    

 

Michael McLeod

All I know, MM, is that endemic doesn't mean the disease raised its hands and said "I give up." Malaria still kills people. 


04/14/22 05:36 PM #10973    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

So Mike....what do you think about the lockdown situation in Shanghai?.


04/14/22 10:23 PM #10974    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

MM, Mike, et al,

TIme to discuss some terms regarding the microbiologic disease world:

Pandemic - we all know this one. An infectious disease that has widely spread, usually globally, to people in a simultaneous period of time.

Epidemic - An infectious disease simultaneously affecting many individuals in a somewhat limited and confined area.

Endemic - An infectious disease that is always present in either a limited area or globally but affecting small numbers of individuals over long periods of time. Endemic diseases may occasionally become epidemic.

Epizootic - An outbreak of an infectious disease in certain types or species of animal. Currently there is an avian flu epizootic large outbreak in chickens in certain parts of America.

Zoonotic Disease (Zoonosis) - A disease that is always present in certain animals but in small numbers of them. An example would be sylvian plague (same bacteria that causes bubonic plague) in small species (squirrels, rabbits, etc.) and prairie dogs. Sometimes zoonotic diseases can be transferred to humans and even cause a human epidemic.

My thoughts are that we are currently in a transition phase between pandemic and endemic in regard to  COVID.

Jim


04/15/22 09:45 AM #10975    

 

Michael McLeod

Always liked the word zoonotic.

It's what I'd name a rock group. The Zoonotics! 

Shanghai is a nightmare and tells me we are lucky the omicron varient didn't do more damage here.

But you tend to ask loaded questions mm so I assume there is another interpretation out there, presumably in the arena of enforcing vaccinations and mask wearing etc. And Jim's post is related, no?

So I'll pick one of his more specific questions to answer and see if that suffices:

I would be against a mandate for everyone to get an influenza vaccine because the flu is not as deadly as the covid virus was at the outset of that pandemic. I think governmental mandates have their place in emergency situations. Who defines what is an emergency? Whoever it is will become a pin cushion since opinions are like you know what and everybody has one. Hence the Fauci demonization.

This is a matter of situational ethics. which is a slippery, slippery arena.

Meanwhiile, speaking of slippery slopes, I am being reminded on a daily basis that worrying about someone else's happiness is immensely more trying than worrying about your own.

 


04/15/22 10:10 AM #10976    

 

Michael McLeod

Honestly, I'd rather talk about this:

 

 

By Jessica Stolzberg

Ms. Stolzberg is a writer who lives in Montclair, N.J.

The most recent United Nations climate report reminds us, once again, of what we already know: The steady rise in global temperature spells catastrophe. We must adapt to what cannot be undone and commit to reducing greenhouse gas emissions caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

We at home are left to wonder whether our daily decisions matter, as we watch a continuing parade of environmental and humanitarian disasters. Many of us have begun to accept that our children and theirs won’t know the same planet that we do.

Still, out of habit or hope, we continue to refuse plastic bags and search the underside of containers for the faint chasing-arrows symbol, eager to place them correctly into recycling. And we wait, looking to our elected officials for policies that will change our trajectory. We’ve been waiting for decades, as the distance in years between where we are and where we don’t want to be shrinks.

The question remains: What can we do?

We must, increasingly, look to ourselves and take charge of what we can change on our own. A starting point is in our own yards.

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The gas leaf blower is by all measures, and without dispute, harmful — to the environment, to neighbors, to workers who carry them on their backs. These hazards have been the subject of countless articles. Local and national organizations work to educate and empower property owners, providing guides to alternatives.

Neighborhoods remain divided into those who allow the noise and pollution and those who have no choice but to live with it. Yet we all bring our recycling to the curb on the same day.

The fix is so easy. Electric leaf blowers are effective, available and affordable. They emit no fossil fuel pollution. Their decibel output is safe. The best part? To make the switch requires only the simplicity and speed of personal decision. Yours. Today.

 

California is banning the sale of gas leaf blowers and other small gas-powered equipment starting in 2024, citing severe impact on environmental and human health and the imperative to reduce carbon emissions. A few cities, including Washington, D.C., have banned the use of gas leaf blowers entirely. They point the way, but this hard-won legislation is taking much too long.

What does a street, a community and a country made up of property owners who say no to gas blowers look like? It looks the same. But it smells better, it sounds better, and it’s a safer, kinder place to all who call it home.

Last summer, Hurricane Ida battered my New Jersey town and many others, with waterfalls pouring through basement windows and people drowning in their cars. The curbs were lined for weeks with heaps of flood-ruined furnishings, boxes of unsalvageable memories and rolls of drenched carpeting. This is what a climate in crisis looks like. It’s no longer just the heartbreaking images we’ve been shown for years of faraway polar bears trying to find firm footing on melting ice. It’s here.

We’ll only know more of this. We’ll fare far better if we choose thoughtfully how best to care for ourselves, one another and our thin slices of this fragile planet. Who comes first to rescue the stranded in a flood? It is always the neighbor who has a boat. Ending destructive emissions and noise in our communities matters. So does considering the impact of our choices on all those working and living nearby.

The privilege that brings a landscaping service into one’s yard must make room for the privilege of caring for the surrounding world in the best possible way. Neighbor by neighbor, yard by yard, the switch to electric will mean real change in the air this spring and from now on.

These conversations may be difficult to have with the good people we live alongside. Tell them you come in peace.

 

 


04/15/22 01:12 PM #10977    

 

Michael Boulware

I am going to have to put my foot down Mary Margaret. Your attack on men who wear wigs is just flat out unacceptable. Lets name just a couple of outstanding citizens who combated their follicle challenges. John Wayne, Willard Scott, Burt Reynolds, Jack Klugman John Travolta, and Terry Bradshaw are just a few great men that attempted to enhance their appearance. I think an apology is in order.


04/15/22 02:01 PM #10978    

 

Michael McLeod

Mike:

Thanks on behalf of all men with thinning pates for finally bringing an issue worth talking about to this forum and taking that courageous stance. Of those guys you mentioned I most respect The Duke  as he only wore toupes in the line of duty -- as in on movie sets or for tv appearances -- and did not give a damn about it in public, including when people asked if they could take his photo sans hairpiece, and he'd say, sure, pilgrim. You can find a ton of bald John Wayne photos on line. I'd rather remember him hirsute.


04/15/22 03:02 PM #10979    

 

Mark Schweickart

Time out from political banter to allow me a moment to strut a bit while wearing my proud Papa hat. My son and his significant other have released (after a many years' struggle) an independent film called "Coast" that they co-directed. It has only a minimal release in several cities throughout the country, but this is a necessary step in order for it to be considered for purchase by one of the big streaming services. So let's cross our fingers. In the meantime, it is available as a VOD (Video On Demand) that can be viewed through various streaming platforms. I am not sure which ones, but do know it is on Amazon Prime –

https://www.amazon.com/Coast-Fatima-Ptacek/dp/B09WJT3NWX/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1S3BXK29S7S4F&keywords=coast&qid=1649626426&s=instant-video&sprefix=Coast,instant-video,142&sr=1-1

It is a coming-of-age, fish-out-of-water story of a 16 year old girl living in the semi-rural California coastal town of Santa Maria. A fascination with punk music coupled with the not-uncommon feelings of teenage rebelliousness puts her and a few of her close friends at odds with homelife as well as with the more dominate working class agricultural culture of the community. The film does a very nice job providing a setting one rarely sees represented in films about California as it explores the teenage desire to escape one's surroundings, of friendships being challenged, lost, and regained, and as corny as it may sound, of the fact that often there really is no place like home.

If you happen to watch it, please post a review at the VOD site. For more info visit their website at: https://www.coastthefeature.com/

 

 

 


04/15/22 03:08 PM #10980    

 

Michael McLeod

mark: kewl.

They trying to get it into any film festivals?

Meanwhile, having taken up residence in heartstrings hotel, I've come another one that y'all, like me, may have forgotten.

More's the pity.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SiylvmFI_8

and for good measure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1GmxMTwUgs

 


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