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01/31/22 03:41 PM #10524    

 

David Mitchell

While I am in the mood, I might as well let go of my anger at my favorite sniveling coward, hyporcite, and idiot.

After all of his shaming of the Capital Police, and his blatant hypocricy over vaccinations (everyone at Fox News was required to be vaccinated), Tucker has just hit a new low. After a little over 100 years of observing the nighmare wrath of Communismin in Russia, China, Korea, and bits of here and there around the globe, Tucker has recently announced that we should be on the side of Russia against the Ukraine. 

And I thought I had seen and heard everything.

 

Could it be that of all the evil people on the earth, one near the top of that list would be Rupert Murdock? 

 


01/31/22 11:13 PM #10525    

 

Michael McLeod

this won't make you feel much better Dave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf-G6TUv3ck


02/01/22 12:59 AM #10526    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

I have been watching with great interest, the Canadian Trucker Convoy which doesn't seem to get too much mainstream press.  Thousands upon thousands of truckers standing up against the dictatorial elites in the name of the freedoms stolen from everyday men, women & children around the world the past two years.

 

https://www.theohiopressnetwork.com/news/ohio/letter-from-canada-freedom-in-the-fringe/article_f941a78c-820c-11ec-bb75-97c33fa8af8e.html?fbclid=IwAR2FIV9DCmHdAj14B1DYCfDIsNS5gldXf4UFMhrZmuiYnSOC-Rz8SBbFUco

 


02/01/22 10:00 AM #10527    

 

Michael McLeod

https://www.vox.com/unexplainable

 

This is a podcast about unexplainable mysteries of science.

me likey.


02/01/22 02:54 PM #10528    

 

Michael McLeod

Whereas absolutely one of the mysteries of life is that I can remember the cadence and contents of this sentence with absolute clarity even though I have not heard it for over 60 years:

 

"Mouseketeers role call, count off now!"

I can remember some but not all of the names that followed.


02/01/22 08:46 PM #10529    

 

David Mitchell

Here is a crazy story you should all enjoy. (or already have enjoyed) - I got up late last night to send this and could not get on my internet.

First; a little background for those who haven't followed this these last few weeks - or months, (and apologies to those who have already seen this).

A few weeks ago, Norway began realizing that their undersea coastal defense cables were mysteriously cut - only just days or weeks after Russian Naval ships were seen cruising off their coast. Then, a week or so ago, Russia announced it would be conducting large naval excercises of the coast of Ireland of all places, including the firing of missiles. And to make things even scarier, the area of the excercises would be directly over the undersea Atlantic internet cables. This news, on top of the Russian threats in the Ukraine, were making a lot of people quite nervous.  AND, this would be in the main area of the Irish Fishing waters. This would be the same Ireland we all know and love, that evil, war mongering, world militay power Ireland - that same Ireland which has virtually no Navy. 

Watch the video, and in case you miss it, it only took some Prawns for the Russian ambassador to call it off.

Prawns!   Could the Irish fishing fleet have discovered Russia's secret weakness?

SLAINTE !




02/01/22 08:55 PM #10530    

 

David Mitchell

To be honest, though I make fun and this report sounded "light", it got pretty scary for about a weak, as thousands of angry, brave, Irish fishermen were threatening to go out and interfere with the Russuina ships. And Russia answered with more threats.


02/01/22 11:05 PM #10531    

 

Michael McLeod

That link you posted above about Iillegal migrants being released is phony, Mary Margaret. 

I have no way of knowing if it's intentional falsehood but that Montague guy who posted it is running for office down here. Maitland is near where I live. Here is a link to a news story about it.

 

 

 

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/viral-video-alleging-maitland-hotel-harboring-illegal-immigrants-turns-out-to-be-false-claim

 

 


02/02/22 01:31 AM #10532    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Thank you, Mike.  Mea culpa


02/02/22 10:02 AM #10533    

 

Michael McLeod

We have become comfortably numb.

From the NY Times:

 

A series of new remarks by Donald J. Trump about the aftermath of the 2020 election and new disclosures about his actions in trying to forestall its result — including discussing the use of the national security apparatus to seize voting machines — have stripped away any pretense that the events of Jan. 6, 2021, were anything but the culmination of the former president’s single-minded pursuit of retaining power.

Mr. Trump said on Sunday that Mike Pence “could have overturned the election,” acknowledging for the first time that the aim of the pressure campaign he focused on his vice president had simply been to change the election’s result, not just to buy time to root out supposed fraud, as he had long insisted. Those efforts ended at the Capitol with a violent riot of Trump supporters demanding that Mr. Pence block the Electoral College vote.

Over the weekend, Mr. Trump also dangled, for the first time, that he could issue pardons to anyone facing charges for participating in the Jan. 6 attack if he is elected president again — the latest example of a yearslong flirtation with political violence.

And, ignoring what happened the last time he encouraged a mass demonstration, Mr. Trump urged his supporters to gather “in the biggest protests we have ever had” if prosecutors in New York and Atlanta moved further against him. The prosecutor examining Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the election in Georgia immediately asked the F.B.I. to conduct a “risk assessment” of her building’s security.

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The events of Jan. 6 played out so publicly and so brutally — the instigating speech by Mr. Trump, the flag-waving march to the Capitol, the violent clashes with the police, the defiling of the seat of democracy — and have since been so extensively re-examined that at times it can seem as if there were little more to be discovered about what led up to that day.

Then, The New York Times reported this week that Mr. Trump himself had directed his lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to ask the Department of Homeland Security whether it could legally seize voting machines in three key swing states. Mr. Trump also raised, in an Oval Office meeting with Attorney General William P. Barr, the possibility of the Justice Department’s seizing the machines.

Both ideas quickly fizzled.

But historians say the episodes and Mr. Trump’s new comments acknowledging his determination to stay in power — and his effective embrace of the Jan. 6 rioters at the Capitol, who he said must be treated “fairly” — have newly underscored the fragility of the nation’s democratic systems.

Jeffrey Engel, director of the Center for Presidential History at Southern Methodist University, said voters were understandably desensitized, if not numb, after a year in which Mr. Trump methodically sought to undermine faith in the electoral process.

“I actually think the American public is dramatically underplaying how significant and dangerous this is,” he said, “because we cannot process the basic truth of what we are learning about President Trump’s efforts — which is we’ve never had a president before who fundamentally placed his own personal interests above the nation’s.”


02/02/22 01:01 PM #10534    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike,

It always intriques me how obsessed are many Democrats and the left-leaning press with all things Trump when they have their choice of President in office. Are they not exuberant at having President Biden as Commander-in-Chief and as such an erudite and skilled leader of the free world? Have not his policies made America a better place for Americans, more respected by our traditional allies and feared by our enemies? Why are they not touting his numerous successes instead of constantly trying to attack his predecessor?  Why do they fear the former President?

They must be very confused that the Biden/Harris polls are so low.

Jim

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02/02/22 01:32 PM #10535    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Well Jim, since you took the words right out of my mouth, I will instead share this Facebook post from a few years ago given that Ohio is bracing for what may be anywhere from a flake to 24 inches of snow tomorrow!laugh

 
February 1, 2019 
Shared with Your friends
Friends
 
 
Now where did that "sled" go????
Oh............there it is!!! A two seater!!!
Jimmy and me 1950. Ah....the good old days....wish I still had that babushka (a woman's scarf, often triangular, used as a hood with two of the ends tied under the chin) ba, ha, ha, ha,!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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02/02/22 06:53 PM #10536    

 

John Jackson

Jim and MM, for the first time in our 230-year history, we’ve had a President who didn’t accept the results of a legitimate election and didn’t leave office willingly and apparently this is no big deal to you.  Our nation can easily survive any of the missteps you may think Biden has made, but democracy is in danger when Republicans take a ho-hum (or worse) attitude toward the monstrous lie that the 2020 election was stolen.


02/02/22 09:37 PM #10537    

 

Michael McLeod

Jim: If you're not appalled by Trump, whatever your party or philosophy, you're not paying attention.

Ordinarily, sure, we could compare the strengths and weaknesses of the two politicians. That would be a legitimate debate. 

Trump isn't a politician. He's a despot. He's a con man going way back. At that, he is an amazing success.

But comparing a con man to a politician is apples and oranges, and when I see anybody trying it - trying to compare these two - I'm overtaken by a sense of the absurd. 

And you're right about one thing Jim. You're damn right that I fear the former president. But not for the facile reason you imply. 

 

 

 

 

 


02/02/22 10:27 PM #10538    

 

John Jackson

Latest statistics from CDC on death rates for the unvaccinated, the vaccinated and the boosted.  The numbers show the vaccinated as 13 times less likely to die, and the boosted 78 times less likely to die, than the unvaccinated. 

Jim, in your role as class medical advisor, do you have any comments on the role of Fox News, which mandates all of its employees (including Tucker Carlson and other anchors) to be vaccinated, as prime spreaders of vaccine misinformation?  




                                                                                              


02/03/22 12:13 AM #10539    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

tt has been two long, stressful years of non-stop Covid.  Omicron has now sufficiently receded, hospitals are not over-run with Covid cases, there are therapeutic drugs proven to reduce serious symptoms, probably 75% of Americans are "vaccinated" and millions have acquired natural immunity. The question I have is, at what point should the world be allowed to resume a pre-Covid life?  The UK, Ireland and Denmark are making a start by lifting all Covid mandates  Why are we still seeking to pitt the vaccinated against the unvaccinated?  Should the goal be zero cases and thus zero deaths?  No one wants to see another person have to suffer and die. I have cared for and buried too many of my own loved ones. But there needs to be a realization that we were not made for this eartly life, and so all of us must assume some measure of risk every day that begins when we get out of bed each morning. None of us is guaranteed tomorrow, and so we must live fully the life God blesses us with each day.  And how can we possibly do that if we are conditioned to live in a constant state of fear of a virus that only serves to keep us separated into opposing factions?


02/03/22 01:02 AM #10540    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

John,

 In regard to COVID, mandates and vaccines I don't think I have changed my views much in the last few days since I last commented on this Forum. I am against government  COVID vaccine mandates, but if individual private businesses and companies mandate them as a condition of employment, that may be their right.

If I remember correctly, many posts ago you challenged my statement about differing views of science and said something to imply that science is sort of an absolute (correct me if I am misstating or misunderstanding what you wrote). That may be true in your field of electrical engineering but is not so in medicine or the life sciences. I have seen many things in my career that were once believed to be true that are not so today and vice-versa. That is because life forms evolve and mutate, disease processes and how they occur become better understood and treatments change as new ones are discovered. The old joke in med school was that on test if asked "what is the drug of choice for (name any disease)" the answer changed yearly.

This virus has presented so many challenges and yet has also taught us so much about the immune system that even the "experts" in the field are unsure what is the best way to prevent and treat the various stages of the disease it causes. And I still think we have an awful lot to learn. "Misinformation" has become one of those words tossed about loosely, politicized and used against those who disagree with others. I will say again, treatment decisions between doctors and their patients are very personal and should be guided by reasonable choices of existing therapeutic options.

Jim

 


02/03/22 10:10 AM #10541    

 

John Jackson

Jim, I would never argue that the same level of certainty should apply to biology/medicine as electrical engineering (which probably more closely resembles physics).  Many of the systems that engineers and physicists study are indeed complex but the systems that biology studies are almost infinitely more complex and, to make it even more complicated, they evolve over time (unlike inanimate atoms, electrons, etc). 

So I totally accept that the “truths” of biology are much softer and harder to arrive at.  But, difficult (and frustrating) as studying living systems it is, it is absolutely essential - God knows we need intelligent and dedicated people to do this work.  

So, especially since we haven’t had a serious pandemic in this country for a hundred years, it’s not at all surprising that the advice given by CDC and other public health experts has evolved/changed  over the past two years.    This virus has a mind of its own and, to make matters worse, it keeps changing so at any point in time our understanding of (and our best ideas of controlling) it is imperfect.

I think, especially in the current situation, there is room for legitimate debate about the effectiveness of mask-wearing/mask mandates, social distancing and lockdowns (which aren’t happening now anywhere in this country).  On the other hand, it is now a scientific certainty that the vaccines available to Americans  are extraordinarily effective.  Your reluctance to call out Fox News’ hypocrisy in having a vaccine mandate for its employees while serving up (un)healthy doses of what is clearly vaccine misinformation to the anti-vax crowd is disappointing.              


02/03/22 10:37 AM #10542    

 

John Jackson

MM, at last we mostly agree on something.  Given the state we’re in now I’m definitely in the camp that says we need to start resuming our normal lives.  And many/most of the people I know feel the same way.  After all, from the statistics that I’ve read, even for people in our vulnerable age group, the risk of dying from COVID is now about half the risk of dying from seasonal flu.  But, of course, that’s only true if you’re vaccinated.     

As I mentioned to Jim, I think it is now perfectly reasonable to discuss the value of a lot of the mitigation practices (especially closing schools) that have been used over the past two years.  But, it is also perfectly obvious from the mortality chart I posted yesterday that the one indispensible tool going forward is vaccination.

And who knows when or if there will be a new variant?  Omicron was less deadly but what if a new variant is just as contagious and also a super-killer? As long as we have a substantial pool of the unvaccinated it will make it easier for a variant to take hold and once again clog our hospitals with the sick and dying, needlessly driving up the costs of our health care system and preventing others from receiving needed medical care.


02/03/22 11:16 AM #10543    

 

Michael McLeod

If I may put in my two pesos worth: Cloth masks not only suck as a deterrent, they are much more uncomfortable to wear than the '95's.

 


02/03/22 02:29 PM #10544    

 

Michael McLeod

even if I didn't fall on one side or the other - and have a deep concern for the state of the republic - I'd be obsessed with the psychology behind all this:

 

"In the modern Republican Party, there has never been anything quite like Liz Cheney’s war with Donald Trump. Whereas once, the party’s most heated rivalries were primarily ideological — like the feud between Nelson Rockefeller and Barry Goldwater — today’s have little to do with policy. Instead, they are about rival systems of honor that are remaking identity politics on the right.

These competing honor systems grow in different social milieus: One is relatively blue collar and home to Mr. Trump’s MAGA movement, while the other is college educated and home to Ms. Cheney’s Never Trumpers. Like so much of American society, the G.O.P. is coming apart by class.

Though Ms. Cheney seems to view Mr. Trump as someone without principle, he lives by a code. As Bob Woodward once described it: “Never show weakness. You’ve always got to be strong. Don’t be bullied. There is no choice.”

This ancient way of life, which permeated the Queens of Mr. Trump’s youth and is generally familiar to citizens outside the professional class, has gone by many names in America: “hillbilly justice” in Appalachia, the “code of the street” in poor urban neighborhoods and the “code of the West” in many Western states, including Wyoming, which Ms. Cheney represents in the House. The people who live in these honor cultures, as social scientists call them, are expected to protect their honor by always standing up to their enemies and generally letting others know they are not to be messed with.

 

Because an honor culture requires those who are slighted or dissed to seek vengeance, Mr. Trump is obsessed with Ms. Cheney. At the Save America rally on Jan. 6 last year, he implored, “The Liz Cheneys of the world, we got to get rid of them.” And during his first public appearance since leaving the White House, he singled out Ms. Cheney once again by noting that her “poll numbers have dropped faster than any human being I’ve ever seen.”

Wyoming has long been shaped by an honor culture, as the Cheney family must know well. Dick Cheney had to navigate it as a student at Natrona County High in the 1950s. When he was caught fighting on school grounds, his teacher required both combatants to duel it out in a boxing match. After seeking a boxing coach, Mr. Cheney won the showdown. Proceeds from the event went to the school booster club.

Until recently, though, the honor culture of Mr. Cheney’s high school had little to do with the Wyoming Republican Party, which was insular and run by affluent ranchers and members of the professional class. Now that culture is remaking the highest reaches of the party as MAGA insurgents wrest control from the establishment. Hence, state party meetings, once sleepy and wonky affairs, are increasingly marked by bravado.

At the Republican state convention in 2020, for example, a fistfight broke out between two county chairmen that sent one to the hospital with a broken ankle and dislocated shoulder. The man who won the scrape is not to be messed with: He has reportedly attended meetings with a gun at the ready, as well as an ax handle, which, according to his attorney, he uses as a cane.

This insurgent, blue-collar culture has not been well received by the Never Trump politicos in Wyoming. Susan Stubson, an attorney aligned with the establishment told us, “I find it threatening.” Another prominent member of Ms. Cheney’s circle called it “toxic.”"


02/03/22 04:31 PM #10545    

 

Frank Ganley

To of the obseeded dems in the class who are constantly cutting the root of Jan 6 let's us pray for your return to sanity! We're all the people who took part in this demonstration republicans? No! Those arrestedwere they all old? Yes for the most part! Other than the unarmed woman shot and killed were there any more casualties? No! But you fervently insist trump has something to do with it! Let us return to the summer before the election, how many riots not demonstrations occurred? Over 600, and who participated in them, democrats, antifa, blm and other hate groups! Was there destruction of property? Yes. Was anything done about them? No. Were they described by fake news organizations as peaceful? Yes! How is it that 11PM Trump has a substantial lead though out the nation. When I awoke how did the votes now favor Biden? Ask of the late returns we 100% were for Biden! His is that possible? I ask you this simple question about the vote. If democrats were so sure that they won the election fair and square, why did the Dems fight tooth and nail to stop and kind of recount! Note a question on today, questions! How do you like the cost of gas? It is $415  for high text and 385 for regular! How i are the people affording that? How is your grocery store? Shelves stocked fully? No! How do you like inflation at its highest in over 50years? Still happy with defending the police and in the case of Philadelphia and NYC they are not arresting anyone, yes anyone for stealing, breaking and entering, shoplifting and many more criminal acts ignored. It is almost like getting away with murder!!! In your hearts John J and mike m do you not find this absurd? Please answer my questions as in the past they were ignored because why? They don't fit your narrative? You agree with this idiotic behavior and condone it? Or as usual you only want to focus on what you think about trump And how much you hate him!!! In the end rightiousness will win out over the evil. The Lord will smite them with a mighty sword when they present themselves to him at the eb m of your life and the lives of all who follow Biden! Of course you all think that Donald j trump is Satan incarnate! Rise and admit your life was better off with trump ! Respectfully Frank

 


02/03/22 04:45 PM #10546    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike, 

I would guess that many people, perhaps most, live by some kind of a code (or codes). Those are often a result of environmental, educational, religious and family upbringings as well as unique life experiences. They can be good or bad or, more likely, a combination of both.

One that we often see in some of our more prominent elected officials are the elitist codes of the "rules for thee but not for me" mentality which has been quite noticable in recent times.

Personally, having spent the majority of my life in the West, I like the "cowboy up" code of not letting every transgression keep me down. I just get back on that (metaphorical) horse and keep on a ridin'!

Jim


02/03/22 06:33 PM #10547    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

A 5 minute look at the state of the nation: 

https://youtu.be/J6RVS2tXUxM


02/03/22 10:18 PM #10548    

 

David Mitchell

Speaking of my "buddy" Rupert Murdoch

 

From the dictionary:

hypocrisy - (noun) the practice of claiming to have a moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform

 




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