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10/25/21 05:18 PM #10078    

 

Monica Haban (Brown)

Julie and all who have lost loved ones, savor the words of St. John Chrysostom:

They whom we love and lose, are no longer where they were before.  They are now wherever we are.

I truly believe this.

Monica Haban Brown


10/25/21 06:08 PM #10079    

Joseph Gentilini

I agree with 10078":  our 'dead' are only a whisper away.  Joe


10/26/21 07:52 AM #10080    

 

Julie Carpenter

Dear friends, thank you for all your kind words and prayers. They really meant a lot to my sisters and me. My sisters and I have been clearing out Cathy's personal things--the process has brought both tears and laughter. Will be heading home Thursday evening. I think we're posting an obit in columbus then. She didn't want a service. Thanks again for all your good thoughts. S7TH ORtill can't believe she's gone.

10/26/21 09:21 AM #10081    

 

Michael McLeod

Speaking of fact-checking, Jim -- which is more or less a religion in my profession -- I wonder if you'd like breaking that gain of function issue down to a point at which I can understand it. I still see no evidence that it came from a lab and I don't know if such evidence is now or will ever be actually possible to pinpoint.

You'd be perfectly justified in telling me to do my own homework, but I've been struggling to parse this one down to its basics.


10/26/21 10:29 AM #10082    

 

Michael McLeod

Boy am I a sucker for a sentimental song.

This one was written many years ago by a guy plunking it out on a rented piano.

Researching it because I'm writing a story about a production being done down here.

Takes me back.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_COP3cyN7zg


10/26/21 10:49 AM #10083    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2021/05/13/dr-faucis-testimony-to-rand-paul-on-gain-of-function-research-certainly-seems-like-it-was-untrue-n378660

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2021/10/25/nih-quietly-edits-section-of-website-on-gain-of-function-research-n2597968

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/05/28/bombshell-fauci-said-studying-bat-viruses-was-worth-a-potential-pandemic-n2590169


10/26/21 11:39 AM #10084    

 

John Maxwell

Julie,
I am sending my heartfelt condolences to you and your family for the loss of your sister, Cathy. I remember her as a fun and happy person.

10/26/21 01:03 PM #10085    

 

Michael McLeod

Not to get into a they say/they say duel but on this Fauci thing b ut I'd have more confidence in an objective source like this:

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/


10/26/21 02:42 PM #10086    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike McL.,

Breaking down the Gain of Function Research (GOFR) picture is getting quite difficult as this science progresses. 

First, a little background:

When I was in college and med school studying microbiology this term was not even available. Some talk about gene editing was mentioned as a future possibility and was sort of a sci-fi concept.

Today GOFR, LOFR (Loss of Function Research) and CRISPR (clustered regularly interspaced short palindromic repeats) are a reality. CRISPR is actually true gene editing and is being tried in human genetic disorders to repair, add, replace genes that cause congenital malformations and disease as well as some cancers and adult disorders. More about that later.

GOFR research is being done in at least two places in the USA - Galvaston, Texas and UNC at Chapel Hill, North Carolina. The third place known in the world is, of course, Wuhan, China. My guess is that there are other places also. The Galvaston group actually taught the Wuhan lab how to do GOFR.

GOFR is something that is used to enhance the pathogenicity, cell entry and/or transmissibility of pathogens (mainly viruses) for the purpose of studying ways of (pre-emptively) creating vaccines and antiviral medications in case of pandemic spread. This is done by combining viruses, gene editing or other methods. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS RESEARCH that could be used for biologic warfare, terrorism or other malicious deeds. Lab errors and the possibility of lab escape of the new "strains" is very possible. Apparently, some viorologists believe that it is possible to distinguish an "engineered" virus from one that is a natural mutation. How this is possible is beyond my knowledge. 

Since bacteria double about every 20 minutes and viruses can infect a cell and produce millions of offspring much quicker, natural mutations are more likely in viruses than bacteria and much quicker. 

CRISPR is an exciting but very scary - and very expensive - therapy. There are sure to be a lot of ethical considerations and the possibility of creating genetic errors themselves. 

This is that "brave new world" in which we live. We are playing with the foundations of life - DNA and genes. 

Jim

 

 

 

 


10/26/21 05:04 PM #10087    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Citing Factcheck.org as an objective source is an opinion, not a fact.  There is bias everywhere,  I can post an article from a website and you can post an article from a different website.  Reading from multiple sources and deciding for ourselves what is rational will hopefully lead most of us to the truth.  Being aware of the bias that may be present keeps us alert and cautious.  Fact check.org and every media entity in the universe today are owned by a company or a corporation headed by persons who lean politically right or left.  You can always check out who funds them and pays their expenses and take that information into consideration.  In the case of factcheck.org, they receive their funding from the liberal Annenberg Foundation which had ties to Bill Ayers and Barack Obama who worked together on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.


10/27/21 11:20 AM #10088    

 

Michael McLeod

I'm just saying, as I have a million times: Some sources are more credible than others.

Some sources clearly come from a specific point of view. If all you ever do is to rely on information that supports your preconceptions you're not going to get a well-balanced picture.

It's so simplistic - and dangerous - to assume that every source is the same in terms of credibility, especially now, in an age that blends ever-more-complex science, for example, with equally sophisticated and unprincipled manipulation of information. Because of that complexity, the individual consumer of information is, in a way, more vulnerable than ever to misinformation and manipulation. But the old rule still applies: consider the source. Everybody's got an ax to grind to a certain extent, but still, incontravertibly, some sources are more logical and objective than others.  

 

 

 

 

 

 


10/27/21 12:03 PM #10089    

 

Michael McLeod

In the meantime I'm developing a snort laugh. You know that thing some people do when they laugh and then take a breath, and the way they take a breath in beween the laughing sounds like the kind of snort you'd ordinarily only hear in a barnyard? It always amused me. Now I catch myself doing it.  Maybe I have a better-developed sense of humor these days. Either that or an upper respiratory issue.


10/27/21 01:51 PM #10090    

 

David Mitchell


10/27/21 02:13 PM #10091    

 

Kathleen Reilly (Dancey)

Julie,

I just heard from Karen that Cathy has died. It's shocking news to hear and I'm heartbroken for you and Patty and Margaret. So many memories from our youth have come flooding back.  One cherished memory is of the four of you singing together.  How proud your parents were of their girls!  And rightfully so.  Please know that you and family are in my prayers.  I'm so sorry for your loss.  You have my deepest sympathy and love.

You know, despite the fact that our paths don't cross often enough, there is a strong bond that was established decades ago.  It will never be broken.  You will always be a treasured part of my life.

May God comfort you and give you peace.

Kathy


10/27/21 10:59 PM #10092    

 

John Jackson

I can’t agree more with Mike on sources.  The mainstream media try (and largely, but imperfectly, do) report the news impartially.  If you doubt this, look at the mainstream media’s reporting on the Afghanistan withdrawal.  Rather than circling the wagons to defend Biden, their coverage was withering. 

A good example of how responsible media separate the opinion and the news pages is the Wall Street Journal.  It has a very conservative opinion page, but its news pages, because its reporters and editors subscribe to traditional journalistic principles of relying on what can and cannot be verified through reputable sources, are not much different than the New York Times, Washington Post, AP or coverage on the major networks (from the networks I exclude the embarrassment of Fox  News primetime hosts like Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham, etc.).     

The right wing media, on the other hand, make no bones about impartiality (and it shows).

One of the most distressing things is that when people on today’s far right lose the argument because they don’t have the facts to back up their claim, they whine and claim that mainstream media is “biased”.  In other words, they work the refs.  This is new - traditional conservatives have in the past shown a respect for facts and rational argument and are appalled at what is happening today in their party.

But the main reason not to trust right-wing over mainstream media is that they have an appalling record of getting it right on major issues.  Three examples:

Climate change:  The argument in the scientific community was over 20 (or more) years ago.  After our summer of freakish weather catastrophes and as virtually all major domestic and foreign car manufacturers “vote with their feet” by announcing they are no longer developing new car models based on the internal combustion engine (and announce huge investments in battery plants for electric cars), even Republicans in Congress are starting to acknowledge the reality of climate change.

Stop the Steal:  There are no credible facts to support the idea that the 2020 election was stolen.  If there were, at least one of the more than 50 lawsuits brought by Trump’s clown car legal team in federal or state courts wouldn’t have been dismissed.  Instead, even conservative judges, some appointed by Trump, have largely laughed these cases out of court.  There is no better example of a conspiracy theory than Stop the Steal.

Vaccine misinformation:  A staple of right wing media coverage is politicizing and casting doubt on the demonstrated safety and effectiveness of the COVID vaccines.  Vaccine skepticism about the types of vaccines that are required in all fifty states for schoolchildren used to be confined to the extreme far left, but, thanks to right wing media misinformation on the COVID vaccines, I suspect skepticism about  vaccines of all kinds will now go mainstream in many places.  Silver lining - weren’t we all just a little nostalgic for the return of  whooping cough, measles, etc?


10/28/21 09:56 AM #10093    

 

Michael McLeod

What a lovely poem about the insights that accompany old age. When I read it out loud it reminds me of Robert Frost. Love the last line. Love "agate-eyed familiars."
 
 
Future Plans
by Kate Barnes
When I am an old, old woman I may very well be
living all alone like many another before me
and I rather look forward to the day when I shall have
a tumbledown house on a hill top and behave
just as I wish to. No more need to be proud—
at the tag end of life one is at last allowed
to be answerable to no one. Then I shall wear
a shapeless felt hat clapped on over my white hair,
sneakers with holes for the toes, and a ragged dress.
My house shall be always in a deep-drifted mess,
my overgrown garden a jungle. I shall keep a crew
of cats and dogs, with perhaps a goat or two
for my agate-eyed familiars. And what delight
I shall take in the vagaries of day and night,
in the wind in the branches, in the rain on the roof!
I shall toss like an old leaf, weather-mad, without reproof.
I’ll wake when I please, and when I please I shall doze;
whatever I think, I shall say; and I suppose
that with such a habit of speech I’ll be let well alone
to mumble plain truth like an old dog with a bare bone.

10/28/21 10:15 AM #10094    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks for that very clear and very frightening breakdown Jim.  lt feels like we are players in a scary sci fi movie.


10/28/21 08:47 PM #10095    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Who is This Man?

The bust of this man was given to me by one of my (French) patients many years ago. It has been on our mantle ever since and each Christmas we adorn him with a Santa Hat. Due to some painting we have been moving furniture and doing a lot of cleaning including wall hangings and other things, including this piece.

This person has affected all of our lives ever since we were small children and is even more important today. He is one of my heroes.

Who is he?

Jim

 


10/28/21 10:12 PM #10096    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Jim.....is he Jules Verne? 


10/28/21 10:20 PM #10097    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Sorry, MM, it is not Jules Verne.

Jim


10/28/21 11:25 PM #10098    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

sad


10/29/21 12:18 AM #10099    

 

Jodelle Sims

Jim, Is the bust Vincent Price?


10/29/21 02:22 AM #10100    

 

David Mitchell

Louis Pastuer?


10/29/21 03:22 AM #10101    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Jodelle, sorry, not Vincent Price.

David, correct! Louis Pasteur who, along with Koch and van Leeuwenhoek, share the titles of " father of bacteriology" and "father of microbiology". 

Thanks to these pioneers our milk is pasteurized, germs were discovered and vaccines began.

Jim


10/29/21 12:27 PM #10102    

 

David Mitchell

Oh good. I was going to say Art Linkletter


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