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07/29/21 02:40 PM #9720    

 

Michael McLeod

thanks for posting janie. the sistah speaks the truth


07/29/21 03:40 PM #9721    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

The COVID-19 virus is .1 micron in size and as such it is entirely too small for any type of mask save for, perhaps an N95 mask, to block the viral particles from exiting or from entering.  This is not my opinion, it is not conjecture, there is science behind it from industiral engineers who are concerned with identifying, evaluation, and controlling real or potential workplace environmental stressors or hazard that can affect the wellbeing of workers and community members. If one really wants to follow the science reading the first linked article is a good place to start.

https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/2021/04/06/masks-do-nothing-to-stop-the-spread-of-covid-and-are-harming-children/

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/study-finds-face-masks-didnt-slow-spread-of-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR3l99BTFA_xC8FBpLZgkC7ae6_JEANEcNyh9oOlhN0qBymDVwOJlnsctiU


07/29/21 08:57 PM #9722    

 

Michael McLeod

yep.n95 is the way to go.

 

On a separate and more general subject, this is fabulous, especially the quote at the end:

 

By Matthew Walther

Mr. Walther is the editor of The Lamp, a Catholic literary journal, and a contributing editor at The American Conservative.

A social historian looking for a defense of the Black Power movement in popular magazines and newspapers of the 1960s would have to do a great deal of digging. Such an inquirer would have an easier time quarrying the pages of Triumph, a little-remembered Catholic periodical started by L. Brent Bozell, a brother-in-law of William F. Buckley Jr., the founder of National Review.

In January 1967, the editors of Triumph suggested that Black Power could help to restore “liberty and human dignity to America.” Liberals congratulating themselves over the passage of major civil rights legislation, the magazine argued, were unaware of how they were still “barbarizing” Black people, who rightly understood that human dignity transcended mere legal recognition of their constitutional rights.

The editors would go even further than this. To these decidedly reactionary Roman Catholic laymen — Mr. Bozell had only recently returned with his family from Francisco Franco’s Spain — rioting was an understandable response to the “terror that always haunts men confronted by meaninglessness,” the actions of a people “yearning to make contact with the divine.” For Triumph, Black Power was a rebellion against the “soulless tyranny of secular liberalism,” and its adherents were worthy of praise because “almost alone among our brethren they seem willing to burst violently through the flesh into the realm of the spirit.”

When I began reading through the archives of Triumph several years ago, I found these arguments striking. This was not because they seemed to offer a wholly accurate assessment of the state of American race relations in the late ’60s. (Among other things, many at the magazine ignored the reality that millions of African Americans were quite pleased with the decidedly sublunary consolations of equal protection under the law and held correspondingly unromantic views about rioting.)

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What struck me, rather, was that the editors, who also called for unilateral nuclear disarmament and were among the founders of the nascent pro-life movement, were doing something that even now, in a nation of some 65 million Catholics, seems impossibly radical: setting aside the standard ideological divisions of coalition politics in an attempt to apply the full range of the church’s social teaching to the problems of modern life.

It is certainly difficult to imagine anything like the magazine’s defense of the Black Power movement appearing in a conservative Catholic periodical today. Last year, the radio host Gloria Purvis was fired from her position with the Eternal Word Television Network, the largest Catholic broadcasting company in the United States, after suggesting that her co-religionists should be outraged by the death of George Floyd. (Her dismissal would almost certainly have baffled the network’s founder, Mother Mary Angelica of the Annunciation, who was inspired by the civil rights movement to start a religious community near Birmingham, Ala., that would appeal to African American women.)

Instead of commentary informed by the official teachings of the Catholic Church, much of what issues from the American Catholic press on the subject of race relations is indistinguishable from the competing perspectives on offer in secular media, with some Catholic liberals uncritically endorsing organizations such as Black Lives Matter, which has called for the displacement of the traditional nuclear family, and some on the right employing casuistry in defense of Mr. Floyd’s murder. This is the case despite the fact that on race and so many other issues, it is clear that distinctly Catholic positions — which is to say, responses formed by papal encyclicals, the lives and writings of the saints, the traditions of academic theology and natural law philosophy — do not line up with the mainstream of either progressive or conservative opinion in this country.

This is why pronouncements from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops often appear to those unfamiliar with the church’s social teaching as if they were the work of two very different entities: in favor of looser immigration policies, prudent stewardship of the environment and criminal sentencing reform, yet opposed to abortion, same-sex marriage and divorce. While it is certainly true that the relative weight assigned to each of these issues by individuals within the American episcopate varies, even the most “conservative” and “liberal” bishops are more likely to agree with one another than they are with prominent politicians in either of our two major political parties.

I express these concerns about the integrity of the church’s public witness because I believe that a thoughtfully articulated Catholic politics has a great deal to offer our officially secular republic. After all, ever since St. John XXIII’s encyclical “Pacem in Terris” was addressed in 1963 to “all men of good will,” the implied audience for Catholic social teaching has extended well beyond the Catholic faithful, not least because the church has always maintained that moral truth is available to all men and women by the light of reason alone.

 

Today, perhaps more than ever, the church presents a refreshing response to our nation’s enforced ideological bifurcation. Polling suggests that about 75 percent of Americans have moderate to progressive views on economic questions and slightly more than half are socially conservative. The median voter has both of these traits, and there are good reasons to think that it was this unnamed coalition of anti-libertarians who decided the outcomes of the last two presidential elections.

Both of our major political parties attempt to placate voters by triangulating occasionally, tactically co-opting stances from the other side. But the most striking thing about both parties is the wide range of positions they share that are at odds with the enthusiasms of the median voter: a bellicose foreign policy, free trade, social libertinism and the financialization of the economy.

In contrast, the church offers a consistent ethic of solidarity: against pre-emptive war of any kind (which the church tells us cannot be waged in a just manner under modern conditions), against the enrichment of the wealthy in poor and rich nations alike at the expense of the working and middle classes, against the increasingly nebulous claims of academic progressives and activists about the nature of the human person and against the pursuit of maximal shareholder value to the detriment of virtually every other meaningful consideration.

It is not just the wide range of issues addressed by the church’s social teaching that might inform a future large-scale political realignment but also the manner in which it does so. Consider the problem of cooperation among nations. If the events of the last year have revealed anything, it is the importance of what Benedict XVI, the pope emeritus, referred to as supranational institutions with “real teeth.” Instead of lionizing the neoliberal banalities of Davos Man, Catholic social teaching articulates a morally inflected defense of internationalism that rejects most of what makes Americans suspicious of it — the obliging attitude toward corporate power, the soft cultural imperialism of liberal nongovernmental organizations — while insisting upon its indispensability for the common good.

The idea that Catholic social teaching can inspire secular politics is not new. The papal encyclicals of the interwar period, which spoke to the anxieties of a world torn between the failures of laissez-faire economics and the growing threat of totalitarianism, were read enthusiastically by Franklin Roosevelt. Today Pope Francis, in keeping with many recent occupants of the Chair of Peter, addresses his writings to “all people of good will” rather than to the Catholic faithful alone as he inveighs against the spoliation of the Amazon region and its Indigenous peoples, wage slavery in Asia, the theft of natural resources in Africa and the replacement of civic life with algorithm-abetted consumerism in the developed world.

We already have a test case for what Catholic social teaching can offer to a population disillusioned by the collapse of a civilization and its supposed ideals: the European political tradition of Christian democracy. More than half a century ago, Christian democracy arose in Europe as a response to the ideologies that had given rise to a global economic depression and two successive world wars. The new postnationalist Europe to which this political movement gave rise — a Europe of robust trade unions and generously subsidized orchestras — was the dream not only of the onetime imperial heir Otto von Hapsburg and Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani, the longtime prefect of the Holy Office, but also of Goethe and Schiller and Beethoven, the fulfillment of the promise of centuries of European humanism.

Like its predecessor in Europe, a revived Christian democracy in the United States would draw upon official church teaching as well as pilfer from the best of secular culture. A new Catholic politics would “baptize” Bernie Sanders’s health care plan, degrowth economics and bans on single-use plastics while drawing attention to neglected elements of our own political heritage that really are worth preserving, such as the presumption of innocence. Such a politics would also remind us, in ways that transcend politics in the narrow sense, of the value of forgiveness and contrition, as opposed to the self-aggrandizing quasi-therapeutic apologies to which we have become accustomed from public figures.

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The prospects for a politics informed by the church’s social teaching will be limited, of course, in the absence of an equally thoughtful Catholic culture, one that allows us to escape what Cardinal Robert Sarah calls the “dictatorship of noise.” A Catholic culture worthy of the name would be a catholic one — which is to say, it would be capacious in spirit. It would model virtues such as gregariousness, intellectual curiosity and munificence. It would offer an unapologetic defense of leisure and innocent entertainment by showing us the innate worthiness of everything from public barbecue grills and minor league baseball to regional theater companies and the miracle of hi-fi recording.

Such a culture would hold up to a world of faddishness those immortal words of St. Paul in his Epistle to the Philippians: “Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.”


07/30/21 12:21 PM #9723    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Mike, thank you for posting the article. 

"Today, perhaps more than ever, the church presents a refreshing response to our nation’s enforced ideological bifurcation. Polling suggests that about 75 percent of Americans have moderate to progressive views on economic questions and slightly more than half are socially conservative."  It would seem that we could focus more on these areas of agreement even though we will still disagree about the proper way address such issues as the economy, illegal immigration etc.  I believe that our politicians on both sides have been so entrenched in their varying stages of power over many years that they have forgotten their sworn duty is to preserve, protect and defend our Constitution.  Hope springs eternal, and I, too have.always loved Phillippians 4:8.


07/30/21 12:46 PM #9724    

 

Michael McLeod

You're welcome mm.

Thanks for posting about the virus and the proper mask.

Everyone needs to be just as careful as ever. Do NOT let down your guard. I am hearing stories from friends that frighten me. 


08/01/21 01:38 PM #9725    

 

John Jackson

I’ve been thinking about MM’s post 9972 questioning the effectiveness of masks for the past few days.  She cites an article on a conservative website that summarizes a scientific paper written by a biology professor from the University of Louisville who did a statistical study of data on mask wearing, mask usage, etc and concluded that masks have little or no effect  on slowing the spread of Covid.  From what I can tell, the website accurately summarizes the journal article (I read the original article also), and unlike those on the right who are usually ready to dismiss university research as having an agenda or being “biased”, I thought the journal article was worthwhile.  

The other link, is to an article on a conservative website maintained by John Bryan, a lawyer, who, according to the site, “led the legal resistance to the West Virginia Governor’s COVID lockdown orders in 2020”.  The article (with the understated title “Masks do nothing to stop the spread of COVID and are harming children”) cites graphics and data from an industrial engineer, but it appears the article was written, not by the engineer, but by Bryan (or someone else at this site, if there is any one else).   I found the graphics/data themselves really interesting (especially the one about how long particles of various sizes can float around in a room) and they did tend to call into question the efficacy of masks.  On the other hand, the article (written by the lawyer) seems to overreach and I wonder if the industrial engineer cited (who was arguing for engineering solutions such as better ventilation) would be completely comfortable with all of Bryan’s assertions.

My bigger problem, however, is that MM is urging us to “follow the science” when in reality there is lots more science that she isn’t citing that shows the efficacy of mask wearing.  As an example,  here’s a link to an article this year in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that is an “evidenced-based” review of data on mask wearing referencing 141 separate articles.  Their conclusion:  “We recommend that public officials and governments strongly encourage the use of widespread face masks in public, including the use of appropriate regulation”.

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

Another more readable summary is this article published last week.  It’s in the Palm Beach Post, not a scientific journal, but it gives at least a dozen links to studies on the effectiveness of masks:

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/07/23/masks-covid-19-science-behind-how-face-coverings-work/8062401002/

Many people think that if a paper is published on some scientific topic it invariably constitutes “the science” on the topic.  But the laws that govern living things are incredibly complicated and messy compared to those that describe the behavior of atoms or molecules or speeding bullets.

And the same tactic (cherry picking occasional studies that are at odds with the overwhelming scientific consensus) has been used by climate deniers for decades to claim that “the science” supports their view.


08/01/21 03:34 PM #9726    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

And so, John, it comes down to whom are we to believe?  Up until recently, Americans were fairly free to make their own decisions regarding the risks/benefits of daily living.  You presented your information and I presented mine, and given that we were all endowed with an intellect, reason and free will, we all can be consumers of knowledge and choose what is best for our particular situation.  If you want to wear a mask, your right to choose to wear one should be respected, and if some choose not to wear one that right should be also respected.  The same with the vaccine.  Mandates are totaltiarian. Where does it end?  

I have to add that I find the constant drumbeat of referrencing "conservative website" /"right wing" /"cherry picking studies" is insulting to our classmates who are surely not taking everything written regarding politics or religion on this forum as unbiased and will do their own research and make up their own minds.

 


08/01/21 06:06 PM #9727    

 

John Jackson

MM, if vaccination mandates are totalitarian do you consider mandatory vaccination of school children for chicken pox, measles, etc totalitarian?

When, 65 years ago, we were all vaccinated in our parochial school classrooms with the Salk vaccine for polio, was that a good thing or yet another example of groupthink run amok? 


08/01/21 07:27 PM #9728    

 

Michael McLeod

Reality will overtake rhetoric. It always does. Given how infectious the Delta variant is there's a good chance that the day will come when the vast majority of the populace will have either been infected or injected.

I guess that would qualify as herd immunity.

Then the onces who say they stood up for their rights can continue arguing with those who paid attention to the realities of a killer disease. Rinse, repeat.

 


08/02/21 11:51 AM #9729    

 

Michael McLeod

Here's a weird little post:

It's a section from a paper I'm editing for a student about the modern phenomenon of conspiracy theories and what psychologists have to say about it.

There's a little something for everybody, whichever way you roll, at the end.

 

Research has found that people who seek meaning and patterns, as well as those who believe in supernatural events such as out of body experiences, after death experiences, ghosts, and other mystical occurrences, are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories (6). An experiment conducted by van Prooijen, et. al showed that an individual’s tendency to find patterns in a random coin toss correlated with their belief in conspiracy theories (40). This could imply a need to pursue conspiracy theories as a way to provide order and comprehension to experiences that aren't clear.

Existential needs serve an individual’s desire to feel secure and safe in the world, and this need may translate to a drive to seek out conspiracy theories when these needs are threatened (18).  Experiments completed by van Prooijen, et. al found that when people believe they have no control over the outcome of a situation, they are more likely to believe in conspiracies, and when their sense of control is confirmed, they are less likely to believe in them (37). In this way conspiracy theories provide an individual with a sense of autonomy and control.

Another existential motive that appears to lead to belief in conspiracy theories is a lack of socio-political control (6). Research performed by political scientists have found evidence that individuals whose political party are not in a position of power are inclined to believe in conspiracy theories more often than those who do have their political party in office, suggesting that people will turn to conspiracy theories as a response to feeling out of political control (36). Hart, et al. (2018), performed research and found people are drawn to conspiracies that confirm or verify their political beliefs. For example, Republicans are far more likely than Democrats to believe Obama forged his birth certificate, and Democrats are more likely to believe Trump’s 2016 campaign was won with collusion from the Russians (44).


08/02/21 12:04 PM #9730    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

John, Mike.....I would like to respectfully reply to your comments.  Regarding previous vaccines that have been mandated for schools or travel to certain areas I can only say that over the course of my lifetime, I have come to acknowledge that there were many issues that I have rather blindly accepted relying on the expertise of the medical community and those in the government.  Over the past 13 years, I have become much more aware of my need to question more and always research that which causes me to doubt that I am following the right path.  As for the childhood vaccines, I understand that they underwent the rigorous testing required by the FDA and were eventually given full FDA approval. That is not the case with any of these vaccines....in fact Moderna has NEVER brought a product before the FDA that has been approved.... they all remain experimental and those who get them are part of a clinical trial.  More importantly the risk/benefit of taking them MUST remain the right of individuals who alone know fully all the particulars of their own immune health.  I remain gravely concerned about the coercion being exerted over the mandating that is accelerating and thus putting people's livelihoods at stake.  What about those who have already had COVID and have natural immunity, which is known to be greater than any vaccine immunity?  Furthermore, the most important issue to me is the fact that the government, in coordination with universities, health organizations, and big businesses are unconscionably forcing individuals to make a life choice against their will.  Perhaps this would be a moral undertaking were it not for the fact that for those under the age of 70 with no underlying health conditions there is a 99.8% chance of survival from COVID.  The mere fact that the coercion to vaccinate has moved from those who are at the greatest risk of actually dying from the virus, to the very least vulnerable in the population the children who, after a year and a half of studies, are known to have a 0.07% chance of dying.  Does no one care to ask why there is such a frantic push?  Additionally, as I have stated over and over......Ivermectin has become THE therapeutic, in conjunction with a couple of other meds which given early in the symptom stage, greatly reduce symptoms and shorten the duration of the virus.  And so, I ask WHY would these medications be censored/banned or demonized.  WHY??  I know why, it is because the government, the medical communities, the businesses are working together to make billions and to extract more and more power and control from the citizens.  There can not be any other logical reason for this constant fear-mongering and pressure, to say nothing of the government's threats to the unmasked, the unvaccinated, and those who voted for Trump's POLICIES, to become designated as "domestic terrorists".   

John, Mike et al....you can rip this post apart any which way you can, but I will stand 100% behind everything I have stated because as an observer of history and as one who has listened to the pleas of those who immigrated from Russia, Albania, Serbia, Cuba, Venezuela, etc, and were the outspoken voices of the 2020 #WalkAwayCampaign, warning Americans that the tyranny that they thought they had left behind was now fast beoming the future for our nation..


08/02/21 01:28 PM #9731    

 

Michael McLeod

I'll say coercion is overstating the case and leave it at that.

And the good news is that a substantial majority of seniors have been vaccinated and that the mortality  rate has plunged accordingly.

I agree tyranny is an issue to be keenly aware of at the moment, but from an entirely diffferent  and far more viral direction than the one you seem to be focused on. And I quote:

Richard Hasen, a law professor at the University of California, Irvine, and one of the country’s foremost election-law experts, told me, “I’m scared.” Referring to the array of new laws passed by Republican state legislatures since the 2020 election, he said, “It’s not just about voter suppression. What I’m really worried about is election subversion. Election officials are being put in place who will mess with the count.”

 


08/02/21 04:28 PM #9732    

Joseph Gentilini

I have been reading all the back-and-forth regarding the Covid vaccines: whether they are safe, whether people should take them, whether there should be mandates or not, etc.  People can have all sorts of opinions.

For those who think they are not safe or that there should be no mandates or that it is all a political dig at donald trump, there can be no answer that will safisfy. 

For those who believe the science, for thost who believe they are safe, for those who people there should be more government involvement with the vaccines, etc., no other answer is needed.

 

 


08/02/21 08:36 PM #9733    

 

Mark Schweickart

Here's some photos unrelated to the political discussion at hand. My wife Maddy and I visitied the Huntington Botantical Gardens in San Marino (just south if Pasadena) the other day. It surrounds the famous Huntington Library  known for its antique books (Gutenberrg Bible, Shakespearean Foilios, etc) and the Huntington Art Museum, all of which was donated to the city when the old railroad tycoon, Henry Huntington, died back in 1919, or thereabouts. It was his palatial residence. It is nice to see such an ultra-rich fortune put to  public use – certainly more edifying than an eight minute joyride to the edge of outerspace, wouldn't you say? Anyway, we had a lovely walk through the gardens (the library and art museum are still Covidly closed).

Shot of Maddy trying to upstage the beautiful pink-blossoming tree benind her.

A view from behind a waterfall.

A cool rock formation in front of reflections in the water  (a la some of Dr. Jim's photos).


08/02/21 11:02 PM #9734    

 

John Jackson

Mark - nice pictures and I couldn't agree more about all the recent ego trips to the edge of space. 


08/03/21 12:51 AM #9735    

 

David Mitchell

Janie,

Thanks for your articles in your post 9718 about "individual rights" vs. the "Common Good". Seems we have forgotten all of that ("the commonn good") and have instead emerged as the most selfish generation in modern history.

If those stupid women who were "forced " to go into our aircraft, ship, gun, and ammunition factories back in the early forties would have had the "courage" to stand up for their INDIVIDUAL rights and refused to take part in that "conspiracy" we could all be speaking German by now. 

What about the examples - speed limits, seat belts, driving and liquor licenses, etc. and my own earlier question about why you would be so "compliant" as to drive on the right side of the road? 

 

Damn! 

I knew I should'a told my dad that he was practicing a form of  "totalitarianism" when he came to Our Lady of Peace to give every kid a polio shots back in the 50's. All of us 4th graders should's walked out in protest.

 

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I also thought Mary Margaret's article about the research in masking left some odd conflicts with every article I have ever read about dust vacuum systems in woodworking shops.

But most curious of all, the sentence that says "this has nothing to do with Dentistry".

HUH!   Why not?  

Does staring (and breathing) down into someone's open mouth cause a different effect? Should surgeons stop wearing those silly masks when they hunch down closely over an open heart surgery patient?  

No mask prevetns 100% of air particals to pass - if it did it would cause one to suffocate. It is well established that guys who wear masks in wood shop experience less cancer, and those who wear respirators even less - than those who wear nothing. There is a lot of research on this and those masks and respiratiors are sold in almost every woodworking website you can find.

I found that whole artilce to be quite odd in it's conclusuons. I surely don't know more than any of these guys, but I sure question the common sense aspect of this article.  I recall once reading a study that concluded that kids are not influenced by TV and TV commercials. The study was done by some professionals and with a multy-million dollar government grant. I completely disagreed, recalling my own small children's frequent recitation of common TV commercial "jingles" and my own influence by thousands of hours of Cowboys and Indians shows.


08/03/21 03:22 AM #9736    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mark, 

What a pleasant and relaxing way to spend a beautiful, blue sky day in southern California! Great photos also. Was that rock a sculpture or the real thing? I have seen pictures of the tufas in Mono Lake that have a similar appearance.

Jim


08/03/21 09:24 AM #9737    

 

Michael McLeod

wowie, Marq!

that's some gorgeous photography.

Jim: what are the chances that some day covid will just be covered by everybody's annual flu shot?

or is that vaccine - at least the ones we have right now, since it's based on a different technique, a separate, stand-alone affair?

and does the fact that it's zootropic also affect that possibility?

And finally: herd immunity. I'm thinking it will happen even though so many americans refuse to be vaccinated; it will just be delayed. People who didn't get vaccinated will either get sick or die. People who did get vaccinated will either sustain their immunity or won't get sick enough to die. Kids who will be exposed to it - well I don't know what will go on with them except that they do not manifest symptoms because, ironically, their immune systems aren't developed enough. Or something like that.

Thanks in advance for being patient with me and I won't feel bad if you turn down the assignment in favor of hanging out in nature and appreciating the sight of assorted mountaintops and waterfalls and deer butts. 

 

 


08/03/21 11:11 AM #9738    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike McL.,

Excellent questions and ones that I have been pondering for some time myself!

But first, for those who may have mistakenly thought that I talk for all doctors:

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     DISCLAIMER: MY OPINIONS ARE MY OWN! cool

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I really hope that science finds a way to combine the mRNA vaccines with the current technology used to produce the seasonal influenza vaccines. The non-mRNA Covid vaccines may lend themselves more to being combined with the flu shots but I know of no evidence that that is true. Certainly, other viral vaccines have been combined successfully in the past, such as the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) and bacterial/toxin vaccines like Tdap (tetanus toxoid, diphtheria and pertussis).

Since virus are constatly mutating (as we have all seen in the past few months with this virus) I forsee having to get "seasonal coronavirus shots in the future. However, if researchers could discover a site on all coronaviruses that does not mutate and design a vaccine that allows our immune systems to target that site, that would be a real game-changer. Since several "common colds " are also caused be members of the coronavirus family, that would be a Nobel Prize worthy accomplishment.

I doubt that there should be a problem with zootropic viruses not being able to be included in human vaccines. 

And, yes, herd immunity can be established in several different ways but vaccines would definitely be preferable to having more people die first.

I would also like to mention masks. As I have stated in past posts I do think masks help prevent the spread of viruses (not just Covid) but to what extent is debatable. But they can also be harmful. Good masks do decrease droplet spread. They are questionable regarding aerosol spread. As I look around over the past 18 months I see many people wearing useless "face coverings" and others wearing masks in the wrong way. Bandana and Gaiter masks are probably useless. The N95 masks would most likely be the best for the mass populations but are expensive, uncomfortable and seldom seen. Masks can cause rashes, contain potentially harmful substances (graphene) and harbor pathogens. I doubt that most people change them often or clean them frequently or properly. They have all kinds of negative effects on the sociological and psychological health of many children and adults.

From a non-medical standpoint I do not feel that the federal government should mandate mask wearing in private buildings, businesses and offices. I also think that it should not demand vaccines for private citizens. Even the childhood vaccines that we all recieved and that children recieve today in order to attend schools are under the control of the states, not the federal government. 

If individual stores, companies, etc. want employees and customers to wear masks, that is their right. Vaccines, in my opinion, are a more controversial topic. 

In WWII a saying for the military became commonplace: "If the military wanted you to have a wife, it would have issued you one." (Back then most service members were male.) Perhaps today we might say "If the government wants you to wear masks, it should issue you boxes of them (preferably N95's)". 

Maybe that would add another trillion or so to the infrastructure bill!

 

Jim

 


08/03/21 11:54 AM #9739    

 

Michael McLeod

Dr. J: thanks for your quick response.

I was only in your waiting room for a few minutes.

All the other doctors in the world were out there with me. They said they always agree with you.

 

 


08/03/21 01:57 PM #9740    

 

David Mitchell

Yes, there are many useless masks out there. But i seem to recall a Columbus Physician who invented a type of nasal filter for poeple with allergies. It was made of a certain density of styrofoam and would filter much of the airborne particles one might breath in dayly tasks such as mowing the lawn, or working in a dusty atmosphere. 

And yes, it did NOT catch much of the aerosal type particles. So he learned through testing to impregnate the styrofoam with charcoal. This caught much of the aerosol particles and even the odors.

He had approval by the FDA and was licensed to sell the product nationwide. It was a small household biusiness and the ecomomies of scale rendered it rather un-profitable, but he had a passionate market demand and a desire to help people deal with their breathing problems. And his results were dramaticly in favor of the success of the filters.  

(Note: it was fitted (by friction) inside the the two nasal openings with a "yoke" connecting the two sides across the center of the nose - to be used "closed mouth" - so as to be smaller and less cumbersome device than full mouth covers.).

When the Doctor died, his customers pleaded with his son to keep the business open and not let them lose their supplies of filters, but I simply could not keep up with the produccttion, the bookkeeping, and the shipping.  

The company was called "NAFILCO" an the physcian was my dad. I actually still have some of the supplies in boxes in my garage.

I submit to you that such a type of filter does do some good, and those with the charcoal added were super-effective. 


08/03/21 03:52 PM #9741    

 

Michael McLeod

I just remember reading stories early on in the pandemic that cloth masks protected other people somewhat, more than the wearer, and that even though they were not foolproof they provided some level of protection. 

I wore them to avoid hassles and show a sense of solidarity. But when I was in a situation where I felt there was real risk I'd wear the real deal - as I will when I fly out for a wedding in a couple of weeks.

 


08/03/21 07:56 PM #9742    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dr. Jim – I would agree that the rock formaiton I took a picture of indeed also reminds me of the tufa one sees in Mono Lake. However, whether this object I photograpphed is actually tufa, or something made to look like it, I have no idea.I should ask about this the next time I visit the gardens.


08/04/21 10:05 AM #9743    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Before I get into my travelogue I have just a few comments,

Vaccines - Trump was the person who pushed for manufacturing of the vaccine,  After he had a bout with Covid, he and Melania were among the forst too be vaccinated.

Dr. J (I've always wanted to use that term) I've loved your pictures of the Deer in your yard,  While on I-74 headed towards Indianapolis I saw, but couldn't stop, when I saw a passale of over a thousand Deere off to the side in a "Yard".  What a site to see, all those Green Deere's lined up.

A short bit on the travels.  We left Rohnert Park, CA at 4:30 A.M. and by 6:00 A.M. were near Sacramento, CA when we first noticed heavy smoke.  Shortly, half hour, we passed the site of that smoke - burning storage units along the side of I-80.  As we passed by wecould feel the heat from the fire(s) inside the car with airconditioning turned on.  Smoke from forrest fires stayed with us through Nevada and up to Salt Lake City, UT.

Joe


08/04/21 11:43 AM #9744    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

"A free society that radically decentralizes decision-making and charity creates greater social harmony compared to the polarizing intervention of the state."

 

 

 


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