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01/29/21 05:30 PM #8931    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave,

Regarding med school and penmanship:

I, and I suspect many others, ruined our nun-trained handwriting due to hour after hour of those long days of lectures and slides, often without handouts, frantically and hurriedly taking endless notes for that first 12-18 months in classroom learning. After that, writing on charts while walking on rounds following the intern, resident, fellow and attending physician sometimes after being up all night. By then, penmanship was totaled. Dictation was relegated to be used for discharge summaries and ocassionally consultations. 

Now, everything is done electronically and more and more often entries are available online to the patients' eyes through "portals" on their computers. If they had to decipher our old scribbling the calls to us would have been endless.

Jim


01/30/21 01:09 AM #8932    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

I'll share a comment below, but first I am headed to the emergency room in hopes of getting someone to help me recover from Mark's latest attempt to stupify us all with his language and writing skills - whew!

Yet another good reason for the House of Representatives to hold an investigation into whether English majors should be allowed to walk the streets un-guarded among us. And just when I thought it was safe to read his posts.

So far, I count three of these "lefties" in our midst. They seem to be concentrated in Florida, Michigan, and California. God help us if there are more lurking out there. 

 

 ------------------

 

After I had successfully (and deliberately) fluncked out of my freshman year at the University of Denver, I came home and spent a part of one quarter working for my Dad at his offie and at the Allergy clinic at Ohio State Med school. He let me sit in on his class, and deliberately did not introduce me. He even gave me a white coat to wear while I sat in the back of his small lecture class of Junior year Med students. I will never forget the shock I received on the first day of the class. He handed out a 30+ page handout of Allergy terminology and definitions, with instructions for them to "get familiar with these terms over the weekend".

I was falbbergasted!  I could not have digested that much information in a year. I later told him I thought that was an awful lot to expect of them. He looked at me and said something like, "We'll find out next week"

 


01/30/21 11:48 AM #8933    

 

John Maxwell

Mark,
I am humbled by your generous treatise. As I have put forth that thought provoking query before, never has anyone devoted the effort musing this trivial pursuit. Seeking the laugh has for ever been my defining quality for as long as I can remember, call me satisfied with your highly detailed response to this puzzle. You sir, rule, literally.

01/31/21 03:02 AM #8934    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Neither Ukrainian nor left handed jokes here, just a simple pun I heard in a movie tonight:

Why are mountains so funny? 🤔

Because they are hill-areas! 😂 

Jim 

 


01/31/21 11:31 AM #8935    

 

Michael McLeod

Did we ever do this play at Watterson?

I have a vague memory of seeing it somewhere back then.

It is so touching and timeless and I'd hate to see it forgotten. 

I'm reproducing the story here because it's behind a paywall.

 


Peter Marks

Jan. 29, 2021 at 7:00 a.m. EST

 

All through his research for his new book about “Our Town” — the seminal, deceptively placid play about ordinary life in a New Hampshire town — Howard Sherman kept coming back to a single paragraph of dialogue. Sixty-one words in Act 3, spoken by the play’s narrator, the Stage Manager, as he gives the audience a tour of the town cemetery, pointing out meaningful landmarks.

“Over there are some Civil War veterans,” the Stage Manager says. “Iron flags on their graves . . . New Hampshire boys . . . had a notion that the Union ought to be kept together, though they’d never seen more than fifty miles of it themselves. All they knew was the name, friends — the United States of America. The United States of America. And they went and died about it.”

Sherman, a freelance writer who once ran the American Theatre Wing — co-producers of the Tony Awards — read the passage again after the Jan. 6 desecration of the U.S. Capitol by a violent mob. He was struck anew by the potency of the spartan language in Thornton Wilder’s 1938 work, and how eternally pertinent the images. Here in one brief vignette about “boys” who fought for a nation they barely got to experience was an explication of why the Capitol riot was such a violation of their sacrifice.

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“It’s really something, the way this play can work on you,” Sherman said in a Zoom interview. “I learned how much nuance there is, and how many very small moments, words, phrases can hold such meaning.”

With the country splintered, its institutions shaken, a book documenting a classic American play affirming shared life experiences and bedrock values seems especially timely. Published Jan. 28, “Another Day’s Begun: Thornton Wilder’s ‘Our Town’ in the 21st Century” is an oral history of a dozen or so recent productions of this famously stoical and spare play. It’s a drama so scrubbed of artifice that the first stage directions in the script are: “No curtain. No scenery.”

Sherman conducted more than 100 interviews with directors and actors — from Oscar winners such as Helen Hunt to inmates at Sing Sing Correctional Facility — for an exploration of “Our Town’s” extraordinary, enduring impact.

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“I just wanted to let people hear the voices of these people who, I’m fond of saying, lived in Grover’s Corners for a while,” Sherman said, invoking the name of the fictional town — Pop. 2,642 — in which the play is set, in the early 20th century. Wilder’s three-act survey of life and death in a small town is so durable that it remains one of the nation’s most oft-produced plays, and it has been translated into 80 languages. The last time it was done on Broadway, in 2002 — one of its five incarnations there — the Stage Manager was played by none other than Paul Newman. And plans are in the works for a production with Dustin Hoffman as the narrator when Broadway reopens.

New York can’t bounce back until Broadway does

Sherman, an erstwhile theater publicist, had been looking for a classic play around which he might construct a production history. He had been taken with a celebrated off-Broadway version of “Our Town” directed by David Cromer a dozen years ago, and more recently found himself deeply touched by one directed by Kate Powers at Sing Sing, cast entirely with inmates. When he discovered that no such book existed about “Our Town,” he decided it would be an intriguing springboard for inquiry.

“The bottom line is, why this play?” he said. “Why does this play get done at every level, from junior high to major professional productions? Why has this play been done around the world, virtually from the time it was written? So, what’s there, and who better than artists who are interpreting the work to say what was there?”

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Why indeed “Our Town”? It doesn’t exactly provide belly laughs or edge-of-your-seat thrills. As Mr. Webb, the town’s newspaper editor, puts it: “Very ordinary town, if you ask me. Little better behaved than most. Probably a lot duller.”

 

Following the comfortable rhythms of the Webb and Gibbs households through two acts — and culminating in the wedding of Emily Webb to George Gibbs — the play feels like a template for the warm family sitcoms of the 1950s. And then, in Act 3, it takes off in a metaphysical direction, as the plot moves ahead in time and shifts to several characters now deceased and seated in the town cemetery. They are, as the saying goes, speaking from beyond the grave. It’s clear that one of them, Emily, who has recently died in childbirth, can’t let go of her past and, granted a last chance to revisit her life, learns a heartbreaking truth that often leaves “Our Town” audiences in tears.

Sherman believes it is the recognition of mortality that drives the proceedings: “You start hearing about death within the first couple of paragraphs,” he said. But other meanings are illuminated in his book and may also shed light on why “Our Town” remains a play for our time. The drama is protean, its portraits and format adaptable in ways that Wilder himself could not have foreseen. (The original Broadway production ran for 336 performances, from February to November 1938).

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In 2017, for instance, Jane Kaczmarek played the Stage Manager in a production by Deaf West Theatre and the Pasadena Playhouse, alongside deaf actress Alexandria Wailes.

“It was a revolutionary idea,” said Kaczmarek, a Yale School of Drama graduate best known as the mom on Fox’s “Malcolm in the Middle.” Kaczmarek, one of the dozens of actors Sherman recorded, said that sharing this central role with a deaf actor felt disruptively positive: They had to rely entirely on each other.

At the time, Donald Trump had become president, Kaczmarek recalled in a telephone interview, “and there was this idea in the production of taking the time to look at each other, to talk to each other, which made it the perfect play to do.”

For Wailes, the “Our Town” experience deepened her understanding of what might seem the most transparent of depictions of everyday life.

Jane Kaczmarek, left, and Alexandria Wailes in “Our Town.”

Jane Kaczmarek, left, and Alexandria Wailes in “Our Town.” (Jenny Graham/Deaf West Theatre and Pasadena Playhouse)

“Working on Deaf West’s and Pasadena Playhouse’s ‘Our Town’ revealed and reminded me of the simpler truths of existence,” Wailes said. “Well, life isn’t exactly simple, but I definitely found myself leaning into how timeless certain human wants and needs are.”

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Sherman’s march through recent theater history inevitably provided a canvas of how diverse the casting of “Our Town” could be. Part of what keeps a classic fresh is its ability to re-form to the contours of society in flux. Thusly, the same year as the Deaf West/Pasadena Playhouse production, Miami New Drama produced a version directed by Michel Hausmann with Black actor Keith Randolph Smith in the lead.

“This quintessential American play is not usually done with an African American actor as the Stage Manager,” Smith said in a phone interview. Playing to an audience that drew from Dade County’s vast Cuban American and Haitian American communities, the production was performed in Spanish and Creole with English surtitles. Smith said it affected him deeply to see how moved audiences could be, even far from the time and place of “Our Town.”

“I love this play,” added Smith, who was in the Broadway cast of August Wilson’s “Jitney” early in 2017. “We keep asking the questions: ‘Why are we here? What should we do with the time we have while we’re here?’ It’s that third act, when Emily says, ‘We really don’t look at each other, do we?’ I don’t know where Thornton got that inspiration.”

Writer Howard Sherman at East Hill Cemetery in Peterborough, N.H. — the inspiration for Grover’s Corners.

Writer Howard Sherman at East Hill Cemetery in Peterborough, N.H. — the inspiration for Grover’s Corners. (Steve Marsel)

The impulse to examine the play’s relevant boundaries was tested that same year in Britain, where the Royal Exchange Theatre in Manchester staged an “Our Town” a few months after a suicide bomber at an Ariana Grande concert killed 22 people there. Director Sarah Frankcom approached Youssef Kerkour, a ­Moroccan-born Englishman who had acted with the Royal Shakespeare Company, to play the Stage Manager with a clearly stated agenda.

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“She was upfront about it,” Kerkour recalled via Zoom. “She said, ‘Listen, the reason I want to hire you for this is because you’re a big, bearded man, and you represent what this town is currently afraid of.’ I love roles where I feel I’ve been presented with the eye of a needle, and I’ve got to thread my Arabic camel through it.”

Wilder himself identified his mission in an introduction to the script: “It is an attempt,” he wrote, “to find a value above all price for the smallest events in our daily life.” Sherman found so much to commune with in “Our Town” that one day last fall, he drove from New York to Peterborough, N.H. — the inspiration for Grover’s Corners. Sherman ventured into the cemetery, the one about which the Stage Manager waxes poetic.

“I actually read some of the play aloud as the sun was coming up on a really cold October morning, with the blue hills receding into the distance,” he recalled. “It was really, really something.”


01/31/21 11:04 PM #8936    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Are we having fun yet??????

Well Friday evening I started having FUN, that's fun with a capital FUN.  

You see Northern California is not like that Southern state of Florida.  We don't have people chartering a plane just so they can get their Covid Vaccine.  California almost doesn't have enough for First responders, Doctors, Nurses, etc.  So Friday when I learned Vaccine was available at our local community center I got right on the computer to schedule appointments for Carol and myself.  After a half an hour of filling out the on-line form(s) I finally took the earliest appointment they had 11:30 A.M. on March 10th.   And I have my Vaccine ID number. Then I started the whole process again to schedule my wife.   About 45 minutes later I was able to schedule my wife for 12:30 and March 10th; also got her Vaccine ID.  Finally I could breath easier, knowing that within three months we would both have received both doses.

Saturday morning as I was reading the local newspaper, yes I still get one of those, an article caught my attention.  They had already started cancelling appointments becuse they had meant to limit appointments only to those 75 and over; even though the county and state had opened up vaccinations to those 65 and older. 

#&@^%($*@(#$)@#  (Un-printable language).

Now I am waiting for the official notification that our appoinments have in fact been cancelled.

Oh, and the Veteran's Administration site says that they will open appointments in our area for Vets 65 and over in approximately twelve weeks.  I love it when a plan comes together.

Mr. McLeod can I stay with you when I fly to Florida to get my vaccines?  I can eat food other than Ukranian!

Joe

 


02/01/21 01:07 AM #8937    

 

Michael McLeod

Ok Joe when you get here I'll entertain you with selections from my Ukranian joke book.

In the meantime here's a couple to hold you over.

 

Where do unsympathetic Ukrainians come from?

The Crimea River

The Ukrainian government is opening up a tourist attraction in Chernobyl.

It will be like Disney World, except the six foot tall mouse is real.

02/01/21 12:49 PM #8938    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

 

It keeping with the SPIRIT of things.

How many McCleod's does it take to fix a light bulb that isn't working?                                                                              The whole clan to watch a Ukrainian flip the switch to turn it on.

How do you tell the Bride at a McLeod wedding?  She has the braided armpits.

How many handles on a McLeod casket?  There are only two on a trash can.

Bah Da Bing.   ALL of the above done for hilarity only. 

Come on Mike, loosen up a little.  Remember, the Cossaks were from the Ukraine; and the story goes that Vlad, the Impaler was also.  We can always deport you to the FORMER eastern section of Ukraine.


02/01/21 01:11 PM #8939    

 

David Mitchell

I meant to post a mention of one of the great actresses of our time, who passed away last week. Every time I saw Cisely Tyson on the screen, I thought she was magic. This photo is in her role as Paul Winfield's wife, Rebecca, in "Sounder", a favorite film of mine. She and Winfield were nominated for best Actor and Actress, and the film was nominated for best Picture. Personally, I think she should have won teh Oscar over Liza Minelli. Ironically, I had not seen the film until years after the fact, after my Anglican Bishop mentitoned it as his all-time favorite movie during a retreat I attended. I could not get a copy as it was out of print and cost about $150 to purchase on line. So I bought the Disney re-make for about $20 and loved it! In that version, they paid a tribute to Paul Winfiled by casting him in a minor role as an older character in the story. There are other versions also, but the original (which I finally got to see)  is still the best, and  there was only one "Miss Cisely" and this is her in the original role. Oh, those eyes!

 

 

 


02/01/21 02:50 PM #8940    

 

Mark Schweickart

Mike – I too have a vague memory about Our Town, but it is of us doing a reading of it out loud in the classroom, with no attempt to stage or act out anything. As a play, it was all a bit boring to me at the time, but I enjoyed the fact that we were doing something active like this in class, ( and I must admit to also feeling stage fright as my turn to read aloud approached). It is possible that this was done during grade school rather than at Watterson, but I don't think so. Anyone else remember this?

Dave – You can still get a copy of the original Sounder to watch on DVD through Netflix. Of course you need their DVD subscription service, not just their streaming service.


02/01/21 03:34 PM #8941    

 

Michael McLeod

Joe:

Turns out I'm easily offended. That sound you just heard was me flushing the two shots of prima black market Moderna-wowie that I was saving for you right down the toilet. 


02/01/21 10:51 PM #8942    

 

David Mitchell

Can't resist a little political comment here;

At least Uncle Mitch shows some semblance of common sense and decency today as he called out this new Republican Georgia Congressswoman Margorie Taylor Greene for her totally wacky Qnon theories. Where are the other Repubicans on this? I guess they have all been neutered.

(They actually put this lady on the Education Committee - I assume, in a move to show those whining Sandy Hook parents who's in charge here. Is this what they mean by "the idiots are running the asylum?")   

And he actually went to bat for Liz Cheney (who, unlike most of her male collegues, has not been neutered.)

 

I must admit however, so far this doesnt look much like "bi-partisanship" Joe B.

 

Growing nervous about the return of violence when we get to the trial next week. 


02/02/21 11:20 AM #8943    

 

Michael McLeod

Lotta common sense getting laid down, Dave. I'm just going to spend a little time being grateful for its return. Biden is a centrist but he's in a position that demands progressiveness, change, and addressing practical issues. The voters have requested it.  

From a recent Washington Post column:
 

President Biden has not completed his first week in office, but already there is much to celebrate. Let’s count the ways:
 
1. You can ignore Twitter
2. The White House briefing room is not an Orwellian nightmare of lies
3. We are now confronting white domestic terrorism
4. We are not paying for golf trips
5. There are no presidential relatives in government
6. The tenor of hearings is sober and serious
7. Qualified and knowledgeable nominees have been selected for senior spots
8. We have a first lady who engages with the public
9. We have not heard a word from presidential children
10. We are now tough on Russian human rights abuses
11. We get normal readouts of sane conversations between the president and foreign leaders
12. The White House philosophy is to underpromise and overdeliver, not the other way around
13. Manners are in, bullying is out
14. You feel calmer after hearing the president
15. Fact-checkers are not overworked
16. Quality entertainers want to perform for the White House
17. We have seen the president’s tax records
18. The president is able to articulate policy details, coherently even
19. The worst the press can come up with is the president’s watch
20. We have a White House staff that looks like America
21. We have a national covid-19 plan
22. Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Anthony S. Fauci is liberated, sounds happy and even looks younger
23. Fauci, not the president, briefs on the science of covid-19 and efficacy of vaccines
24. Masks and social distancing in the White House
25. The White House has policy initiatives and proposals, not merely leaving it all to Congress
26. The administration is committed to releasing information, not covering it up, on the slaughter of journalist Jamal Khashoggi
27. The Muslim ban is gone
28. It is the Republicans not the Democrats who are in disarray
29. The national security adviser has not been fired for lying to the FBI
30. No Soviet-style fawning over the president by his subordinates
31. The president takes daily, in-person intelligence briefings
32. The president does not care about Air Force One colors
33. We have a president familiar with the Constitution
34. Real cable news outlets get high ratings, others not so much
35. President Andrew Jackson is out of the Oval Office, Benjamin Franklin is in
36. Voice of America is back in the hands of actual journalists
37. We get memes about Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), not crowd size
38. We are back in the Paris climate accord and the World Health Organization
39. Instead of running it like a business, the new administration will try running government competently
40. We have a president who doesn’t think military service is for “suckers” and who doesn’t send his “love” to people assaulting law enforcement
41. The secretary of treasury nominee has her own Hamilton lyrics
42. Amanda Gorman is a household name
43. More than two-thirds of Americans approve of the White House covid-19 approach.
44. No more work-free “executive time” in the presidential living quarters
45. We have a churchgoing president “who has spent a lifetime steeped in Christian rituals and practices.”
46. We have first dogs
47. The vice president’s spouse does not teach at a school that bars LGBTQ students
48. The White House takes the Hatch Act seriously
49. The administration wants as many people as possible to vote
50. The president will talk more to our allies than to Russian President Vladimir Putin”
-Jennifer Rubin WAPO columnist

02/02/21 10:20 PM #8944    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike,

I can't let that one pass! That list was, at least at times, quite humorous.

I am so glad that Dr. Fauci will now be happy. That should make up for all the unemployed pipeline, oil and gas workers in the USA and Canada who will not be happy. But then, the Chinese, Russian, Mid-East and other oil producing nations' workers will be celebrating. It all works out if you live in those countries. Oh well, our American workers can compete with those thousands waiting at the southern border to grab those great (but not quite "shovel ready") jobs in the new green energy industries.

And it is great to have a pet dog in the White House. I just hope that it is not one of those canines that will lick visiting dignitaries to death by giving them Cytocapnophagia canimorsis *. Dr. Fauci better be on-call.

A few of those 50 points were initiated by the previous administration. We'll consider them a gift to President Biden. Let's hope he takes good care to continue their success.

Notable was that not many of those things listed seemed to be directed at benefiting the American people. That's O.K., by the time the 10th round of stimulus checks arrive, Americans will be able to pay some of those tax increases for all the increased cost of the Green New deal. The Government giveth and the Government taketh away!

Jim

* I'll let you research that one. I think you will find it quite interesting!

 


02/03/21 11:53 AM #8945    

 

David Mitchell

Dear Miss Rubin,

 

"Christian rituals"? Oh boy! Just what we need - more ritual and ceremony. 

How about just Christian practices - like the Constitutional right for all human beings to enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

 

"Centrist" - now that's a stretch. What was that he was saying about "bi-partisanship"?

His energy ideas would sound good if scheduled on a longer, more gradual trasition - but this sounds clumbsy and inefficient. 

 


02/03/21 11:56 AM #8946    

 

David Mitchell

Kinda sickening to see the Republican "tent" burn down. I hope the "good guys" win. But then there are not very many good "guys" - they are mostly good stong women - except for one totaly dilusional crackpot. 


02/03/21 11:59 AM #8947    

 

Michael McLeod

Dirty pool giving me flashbacks to Latin class, Jim.


02/03/21 12:46 PM #8948    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Sorry, Mike, those are Greek, not Latin derivatives. 

Jim 


02/03/21 10:55 PM #8949    

 

John Jackson

Biden’s pause in granting new leases for oil and gas exploration/production on Federal lands is not nearly as drastic as its opponents have alleged (another example of crazy Fox News hyperbole).  Major energy companies have been stockpiling leases for years - they hold thousands of leases to drill for oil and gas on Federal land that they have not yet used and they will continue to hold the rights to these leases under the Biden plan. 

It will be many years (a decade or more?) before Biden’s pause (if it becomes permanent) will have any meaningful effect on oil or gas industry employment or production.  By this time it will be even more obvious than it is today that the U.S. and the world must transition away from fossil fuels.

See https://insideclimatenews.org/news/27012021/biden-federal-land-oil-gas-drilling/.

Key quotes from this article:

Oil and gas companies are sitting on a huge cache of undeveloped federal leases: Nearly 14 million out of more than 26 million acres leased to oil companies onshore are not in use, and more than 9 million out of a total 12 million offshore acres leased are not producing, according to the Interior Department. Biden’s order will allow companies to continue to receive permits to drill on land they have already leased.

Wells on federal lands also account for only about 20 percent of the nation’s oil production, and even less of its gas output. The pause in new leasing will have no impact on the state and private lands that account for the rest.

In other news, GM announced this week it will stop making gas-powered cars, vans and SUVs (but not trucks) by 2035 and the bulk of its investment over the next five years will be in electric vehicles.  

 


02/04/21 01:37 AM #8950    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

The real climate change agenda......In their own words:
"Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC's fourth summary report released in 2007, speaking in 2010 advised: "One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world's wealth." U.N. climate chief Christiana Figueres said that the true aim of the U.N.'s 2014 Paris climate conference was "to change the (capitalist) economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution."

 


02/04/21 11:22 AM #8951    

 

Michael McLeod

John: Went out for a spin last night in a friend's new Tesla.

Once you do that you'll never look back. Makes my Toyota 4-Runner look like a tin lizzy.

I'd love to think that people do want to save the planet, and I'll talk till I run out of breath to bring people around about it, but practically speaking it's not going to happen until economic interests develop momentum. And that's happening. It's too late to spare a hell of a lot of damage we could have avoided if we'd acted earlier, but it's happening. 

Now, if only we had bought Greenland.......

 


02/04/21 12:08 PM #8952    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

 

I just  can't wait, knowing that the promotion of Electric cars are a product of the airlines, ride-sharing services, and hotels/motels (have I started a conspiracy theory yet).  As of right now who will benefit the most from everyone switching to electric vehichles, besides the utility companies and related interests - Airlines, etc. 

My next trip to Ohio, and other parts East, will not be done in four days.  It will be approximately ten (10) days.  Every three - four hours I will have to stop and find a place to recharge the battery(ies) for about eight hours.  At an increase in motel/hotel costs.  Think you want to go from Columbus to see that Broadway show. Plan on about two days on the road; although there will probably be a lot more recharging stations.

So what to do.  Fly to your destinations and RENT an Electric vehicle when you arrive, or contact a ride hailing service.  I wonder how quickly the rates for rides will increase.

Quess I'll have to make my last trips back East soon while I can still afford them.

Just thinking.

Joe

 


02/04/21 01:05 PM #8953    

 

David Mitchell

It seems to me that this "(capitalist) economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years" could use some changing. We currently have so much corporate socialism, and protection of the wealthy in our current IRS Tax code, that it has already caused a massive redistribution (away from middle class labor) of wealth in this country.

(what if we subsidized the salaries of teachers, nurses, cops, and fire fighters the way we do for corporate investment in new equipment, or personal tax shelters for the weaalthy, or professional football teams, or Hollywood movies?)

To repeat a statistic that I posted before, back in the 60's the annual IRS gross revenues were distrubuted about 50/50 between Corporations and individuals. Today it's more like 94% individuals adn 6% Corporations. And don't forget our highest tax rate back then was 90% (which few actually paid since ther was such wide spread use of charitable contributions) that helped create a little project that has added gozillions to our economy - "The Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways" - the "Interstate".

And lest we forget, after the crash of 2007 and 2008, we allowed the Wall Street Banks to gamble away over $12 trillion and go relatively unpunished. That I beleive is the single largest "transfer of wealth" in our history.   

There are a lot of interesting comments on this sort of topic being discussed by the group known as "Patriotic Millionaires". Yes, many of them are what I would call "fortunate liberals", but they make some interesting arguments (some I do not agree with) which openly question why they are allowed to shield so much of their income from taxation. 

* (Many "Corporate Millionaires" are proponents of the $15 minimumm wage. I am not. Some businesses could bear that cost, but many could not and have already gone out of business - especailly the small family owned restaraunt buisiness. I cannot see how we pay wage earners $15 an hour while we pay Military Privates something around $9.00+ per hour, and even Buck seargents (E3's) something just over $12.00 an hour. Call me old fashioned and conservative but flipping burgers simply doesn't rate a higher pay than young soldiers.)

 

I must conceed to John that I failed to mention Joe B's plan for the gradual cessation of lease renewals, and that should act as a bit of a transitional buffer. Still, there will be hardships, as there were when electricity pushed gas lighting into history, and cars relegated horses and carriages to the farms and amusement parks.    

And finaly, there is much more to this "climate" thing than just energy. As I mentioned aways back in the Forum, there is much to be done about recycling of our waste, and the use and recycing of water.

But as for any "climate change" doubters, i suggest you just go talk to the city officials in Newport, Virginia, or Miami, or Singapore. 


02/04/21 01:31 PM #8954    

 

David Mitchell

Joe,

You raise an interesting point. I don't think we will see an overall transition away form all gas powred vehicles. But I believe some battery technologies are already past your capacity estimates. And I am pretty sure there are now some rechargers are well past the capacity of "8 hours". I used to follow a couple of penny stocks in the battery charging field and that fast charge technology is not far off.

But maybe this will get us back to the advancement and resurgence of train travel - which I personally love! It is my guess that most of the coming changes in transportation will be in the short range category - even short haul electric trucks - like the harbor short-haul trucks of the docks of Long Beach (where the trucks produce massive amounts of air pollution over just a short distance) - also an investment area of interest to me - electric trucks (comming sooner than you might think).

As far as the producton of electric power, we have tons of solar and wind energy potentially being harvested in areas like Oklahoma, Kansas, Wyoming, eastern Colorado, and Arizona. But that will be hampered for years until we can build an electric grid system in that part of the country to carry it. That is a fact actually pointed out by tha late oil tycoon T. Boone Pickens (certainly no "liberal environmentalist"). He said he would have wanted o get into that field of enrgy productuon but that we (the nation) would have to first build that massive grid system - maybe like a Tennessee Valley Authority of the 1030's. Talk about an "infrasructure" bill - now that would be a project that would be great " for Mr. Biden to take us into. Think of the generations of jobs leading to more jobs that could produce.  


02/04/21 02:33 PM #8955    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike,

Don't get rid of that 4-Runner! They are great 4WD vehicles and will get you into and out of places and situations that a Tesla will not.

Joe McC.,

I agree with you 100%. Those of us who live out west know of those long, barren stretches of two-lane roads (and some 4-lane ones) where there are miles and miles of nothing but miles and miles. Many of those would challenge the range of electric vehicles. At least with a gas powered vehicle one can carry a 5 gallon spare tank or call AAA to bring you gas. Not so with a container full of electrons. 

And for us afficianados of off-roading, I am yet to see a charging station on a rocky dirt road above timberline. Even if there were, who wants to spend the hours it take to charge on a windswept mountain top.

And the old question of what form of energy charges the chargers?

As much as we would like to believe, I doubt wind and solar can power megacities and the entire country. It can be an add on to other forms, including fossil fuels. I am pro-nuclear energy which has the potential to do so.

Trains may be fun but they are not fast enough for many who need to get somewhere quickly. 

What would an electric airplane look like? Can it go transoceanic?

I think the "Jetsons" future is far away and when it does arrive, life will be totally different, all business will be laptop from home, and traveling will be almost non-existent.

My opinion, of course...

Jim

 


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