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01/20/20 03:09 PM #6720    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Jack,

 You are a good example of a long term coronary event survivor! That extra artery you developed that supplies blood to the damaged part of your ventricle is called a "collateral" and is nature's own bypass surgery. That does not happen in everyone so you are very fortunate! Keep following your doctor's advice, medications and risk reduction plan for you. Staying active is good but remember your age and continue to know your limits. 

Oh, and stay off of roofs!!! 

Jim 

 


01/20/20 03:54 PM #6721    

 

Michael Boulware

Frank! Good to hear from you. We have been  avoiding discussing politics until now.

Liberals and Fake News has been treating our president without any respect. Sure we need to overlook some of his flaws; we all have flaws. Look what he has accomplished. He started Trump University; oops, it was closed and labeled a sham. We can overlook that. He started The Trump Foundation; a pure philanthropic venture. It was shut down because it became a slush fund for our president. Let's let that slide. He has been falsely accused by many women for improper sexual advances. Those sluts couldn't prove anything; we'll overlook that too. The N.A.T.O. leaders laughed at him; he certainly did not deserve their sarcasm.Those jealous Democrats caught him attempting to rig an election; let's forget that. He has made great friends with the leaders of Russia, China, and North Korea while poking fun at our generals and the F.B.I.. He has a right to do that; he's president. Let's not forget his wonderful wife; do you realize that she is the only First Lady to pose topless for GQ? I am certain her family is very proud. Thanks for the opportunity to show my support for our beloved president.


01/20/20 07:59 PM #6722    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

https://chinesenewyear.net/zodiac/rat/

Coming up later this week is Chinese New Year!  It's OUR year! Born in 1948 we are RATS! 

 


01/21/20 09:16 AM #6723    

 

David Barbour

Mike B.

I love you, man!

 

DB


01/21/20 10:58 AM #6724    

 

Daniel Cody

Mike you forgot one if his greatest accomplishments:  mocking a disabled person


01/21/20 11:37 AM #6725    

 

Michael McLeod

Nothing like a big fat dish of sarcasm to make my day. Thanks Mike B.

And holy crap Jocko. Hell of a heart you got there.


01/21/20 12:10 PM #6726    

Lawrence Foster

Interesting coincidences happen.  

Jim I enjoyed your write up on the heart health and Jack your tale of your heart issues is amazing.  At the same time these were being written and posted I went to an art class where the idea was to paint an image without using a paint brush.  The instructor gave us q-tips and sponges - square ones and round ones on small sticks.  The item that was suggested we do was a Christmas wreath.  My wife Peggy likes to have a wreath on our front door and we have 5 or 6 different ones that we use during the year for seasons and holidays.  I did not want to do the suggested Christmas wreath so since Valentine's Day is coming up I made this image.  I would say that the coincidence of these wiritngs and my painting might grab one by the heat strings but that would just be a very good pun that is badly timed.  Oh, well.  

 

      


01/21/20 08:50 PM #6727    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

THE HEART OF THE MATTER

As I mentioned in Post #6732, the other cardiac problem I wanted to discuss is Atrial Fibrillation (AF), the most common dysrhythmia.

In addition to aging there are several risk factors that predispose a person to experience AF. These include genetics, obesity, excess alcohol, valvular and other structural heart disorders, heart surgery, coronary artery disease, hyperthyroidism, diabetes, endurance athletics and some others.

In order to understand AF one must first have some basic knowledge of the normal heart's electrical system (I can just hear the excitement of any of our class electrical engineers!). These two illustrations will help as I briefly go through this.

 

By means of a complex chemical-electrical process (involving sodium, potassium and calcium ions) starting with something called diastolic depolarization, an impulse is generated (normally about 60-100 times per minute - the normal resting heart rate) in the Sino-Atrial Node and sent via a series of specialized bundles through the atria (causing atrial contraction) of the heart to the Atrio-Ventricular Node which slows the signal (allowing the atria to contract before the ventricles), and then through the bundle branches to the conduction pathways ("Perkinjie Fibers") which stimulate the ventricular muscle fibers to contract. This electrical system is in green on the picture.

Although all of the exact electrical phenomena that occurs in AF are still being investigated, it seems that there are several mechanisms that can precipitate it. Most AF develops just outside the top of the Left Atrium (LA) in the four Pulmonary Veins where they enter the LA.

When the atria fibrillate there is no good pumping action of blood from them to the Right and Left Ventricles (RV, LV). Fortunately the majority of blood that enters the two atria passively flows through the valves between the atria and ventricles (Tricuspid on the R and Mitral on the L). When in a normal state (Normal Sinus Rhythm) the contraction of the atria contributes about 20% to the total volume of each ventricle, In AF, therefore, the ventricles receive and pump out about 20% less of their normal volume with each contraction. As I described in in Post #6732 if you have a normal heart with an ejection fraction (EF) of 70% and go into AF, your EF will decrease to 80% of that 70% and be 56%, still within normal limits of an EF. However, if your EF at baseline is in the low normal range, say 50%, a 20% reduction will take you down to 80% of 50% = 40% which is close to heart failure levels.

The signals that AF send out are very frequent, maybe up to 600 per minute. Not all of those are able to pass through the AV node but, at least in the early stages of AF, the ventricular rate is very fast, perhaps even up to >200, and very irregular ("irregularly irregular" is a term used to describe AF).

Atrial Fib can come in a number of varieties ranging from acute and short duration, to recurrent to persistent and chronic. Some of the blood that is in the atria is not flowing well and tends to become static, similar to an eddy current in a creek, often in the Left Atrial Appendage (or Auricle -see second illustration). Blood that is static tends to clot and those clots are at risk of becoming dislodged, enter the LV and get pumped out the aorta and on to the brain (stroke), gut (ischemic bowel) or extremities like the legs (ischemic extremities).

The clot formation takes time and is is generally thought to occur if AF has gone on for 48 hours or more. Of course, this is a generalization and other factors can alter that. In acute AF, like during a heart attack (myocardial infarction, MI) if the patient is decompensating rapidly ("coding"), electrical cardioversion may quickly restore normal rhythm. If a patient is not immediately in danger and has been in AF for less than 48 hours, cardioversion may also be a possibility. Sometimes special types of echocardiograms - such as transesophageal echos (looks at the backside of the heart where the auricle is) - can determine if a clot is present before cardioversion.

There are many ways to treat AF. Cardioversion is one, catheter ablation of those initiating foci in the Pulmonary Veins is another way to terminate the AF itself. Medications can also be used to convert the abnormal rhythm. Decisions should be shared by the patient and the doctors involved. Is it possible to restore and maintain normal sinus rhythm or is it to the point where that is not realistic and controlling the ventricular (pulse) rate to a good level along with anticoagulation to prevent clots is the best choice? There are medicines that are designed to control rates, such as beta-blockers, and others that can attempt to terminate the AF. The longer the patient is in AF, the less likely it is that medication will restore sinus rhythm.

The current thinking is that most patients with AF should probably be on anticoagulation. Again, that is between the doctors and the patient and based on various risk assessment tables. There are now available devices, the FDA approved one being the Watchman Device, that blocks the auricle and prevents clots from forming. These may end the need for some chronic AF patients from having to take lifelong anticoagulants.

O.K., believe it or not, this has barely scratched the surface of the topic of AF. But, I hope it has presented an understanding of the problem, what it is and some of the treatments.

Jim

 


01/22/20 01:18 AM #6728    

 

David Mitchell

Easy for you to say Jim.


01/22/20 10:43 AM #6729    

 

Michael McLeod

 

I'm confused. The heart Larry painted looks so different from the one Dr. J. is talking about.

One of you is messed up. 

And finally, if there is going to be a quiz on this that is really messed up. I'm old. I'm a typical American. I stopped learning a long time ago and you can't make me start now. 


01/22/20 12:52 PM #6730    

 

Michael McLeod

Just curious if anyone else was read the poems of this guy as a child. Here are two we became familiar with. Our nursery rhymes and stories were those that my mother had heard and read as a child and passed on to us. Similarly, we had a bookcase full of Bobsey Twins books. I read Edgar Allan Poe, Charles Dickens, Arthur Conan Doyle, Anna Sewell's "Black Beauty." 

The poem here is a great example of an era when scaring the crap out of little kids was fair game for storytelling. None of this trigger-warning falderall for the old storytelling farts of that era.

Of course if you track folklore all the way back you realize that many of the stories told to children were to warn them of very real and very grave dangers. There was method in the madness.

 

https://poets.org/poem/little-orphant-annie

 

http://www.hurherald.com/cgi-bin/db_scripts/articles?Action=user_view&db=hurheral_articles&id=454

 

 


01/22/20 10:24 PM #6731    

 

David Mitchell

Mike

My dad was often reciting the first verse of Little Orphan Annie, along with a few other traditional poems and old sayings. And we had a similar plaque about teh "Passing of the Outhouse" hung on the kitchen wall of our cottage up at Lake Erie - which had an outhouse built onto separate garage - but long since out of use - except for extreme emergencies with a crowded cottage.


01/22/20 10:52 PM #6732    

 

David Mitchell

My youngest daughter sends me a Fandango gift certificate every year for Christmas, forcing me to get out and see some films. I have just used up the card on three terriffic films;

Ford vs Ferrari - I would never have thought it could be so good. Absolutely Gripping!   Much more than a car race movie, and Christian Bale is likely to pick up another Oscar nomination. He and Matt Damon are great together.  (most entertaining film of the three)

1917 - A really good movie about an interesting WW1 story, but perhaps the most unique bit of cinematography I have ever seen.  They apppear to have filmed the entire movie in one single shot, with no cuts. In reality they did cut, but you cannot see but one or two points in the film where they could have done it. A Best Picture nominee for sure.  (really unique viewing)

Just Mercy - Based on a true story of Southern injustice from Alabama in the "80s. Superb!!!  And take your kleenex for teh ending. If Jamie Foxx doesn't win an Oscar nomination for this I don't know what should. Ditto for co-star Michael Jordon.                (emotionally draining but fulfilling) 

 

A Hidden Life - the film about an Austian Man who refused to join the Nazis looked like a really good one, but never played in a theater anywhere near here ???

p.s. My daughter tells me this new Little Women is the best version ever!                         ("Dad, you have to see this!")


01/23/20 11:33 AM #6733    

 

Michael McLeod

So, Jim, that electrical system on the diagram is what kicks in, if all works well, when they zap someone whose heart has stopped. The current contacts the fluids and tissues in that area, I guess.


01/23/20 12:37 PM #6734    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike,  Applying electricity to the heart, either by a cardioversion technique (when the patient has a heart beat and a pulse and is usually conscious) or by defibrillation (no pulse and unconscious, essentially "dead"), stops all chemically mediated electrical activity in the heart. What hopefully happens next is that the tissue in the heart that has the fastest rate of diastolic depolarization (as I described in my last post) which is the Sino Atrial node - the heart's natural pacemaker - begins to fire and restores a normal rhythm.

There is an intravenous medication, ibutilide (brand name Covert), which can do a "chemical cardioversion" on some patients who are in new onset atrial fibrillation and I have seen it work quite well. As opposed to electrical cardioversion no sedation is needed.

Jim 

 


01/23/20 04:27 PM #6735    

 

Michael McLeod

thanks for helping me out on that Jim. that is just fascinating. Sounds like what is being done is leveraging a brilliantly engineered natural system and then crossing the fingers and standing back in hopes it kicks in and to - hopefully - watch it work its magic.


01/23/20 06:57 PM #6736    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike, 

Exactly, restoring the natural state. The tricky part is maintaining it and preventing recurrences. That is where the long term treatment and follow up are needed. ​​​

Jim 


01/23/20 11:18 PM #6737    

 

David Mitchell

Okay guys, so what I want to know is how do years of drinking cokes and eating buttered popcorn on the couch, while watching everything from Roy Rogers and Dale Evans to Downton Abbey and Denver Bronco games work on my "electrical system"?

Can ya just tell me that? 


01/24/20 11:26 AM #6738    

 

Bill Reid

Dr. Jim’s explanation of how the electrical system in the heart works really resonated with me. I have been suffering from two heart problems: one electrical and one “plumbing” The plumbing problem is called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (abbreviated HCM). It’s a thickening of the heart muscle between the left and right ventricle. Normal thickness is between 12 and 15mm; mine was 18mm. So last Halloween I underwent open heart surgery when they shaved off the part that was too thick. The problem of the too-thick part was that it was keeping my mitral valve from closing completely, and that meant less blood flow to the rest of my body. It was somewhere about 35%; now after the surgery it is 100% and all is well. 

The electrical problem is called supraventricular tachycardia (abbreviated SVT). That means there is a second electrical pathway in my heart that sometimes short-circuits the normal electrical system. Result is extreme weakness caused by a heart rate over 180 beats per minute (60-100 is normal). That problem still exists, and I am anticipating an ablation process to correct it.

The only reason to share all this with you is to encourage you to have your heart checked periodically. I did not know of the HCM until I underwent a stress echocardiogram last spring that showed it clearly. When you hear of a young competitive athlete dying during a sports event, it’s sometimes because they had HCM and didn’t know it. Now that I’ve had my “adventure”, all of my children are having an echocardiogram to see if they have HCM (it’s passed along genetically); if they do, there are medical ways to treat it without surgery.

Dr. Jim, if I’ve portrayed any of this incorrectly please let us know. At this stage of our lives, parts are starting to wear out and it’s good to know that modern medicine can fix some of the problems. Having said that, I can testify that open-heart surgery is no fun – but in my case it cured the problem and now I’m back in good health again. At least for the time being!

 


01/24/20 12:14 PM #6739    

 

Bonnie Jonas (Jonas-Boggioni)

Monica saidI need to get this article to Fred Clem:

https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/ohio/g-and-r-tavern-bologna-sandwich-oh/?fbclid=IwAR1Ax52smWUbQmajhdDGnEvEqcUUUUKR6GX_-nlL8hlOo4d_Dw4oa0jyb3o


01/24/20 12:33 PM #6740    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Bill,  You are well informed and I am so glad your surgery went well! 

The old term for HCM was IHSS which stood for Idiopathic Hypertrophic Subaortic Stenosis. "Idiopathic" means there was no known cause. Today we know that most of this is genetic and, therefore, hereditary. Gene testing can be done but this condition is polygenic and about half the cases can be missed. Echocardiography sounds like a good way to screen your relatives.

As for your accessory bundle that causes your SVT, I suspect you may be describing  a "Bundle of Kent" and perhaps a Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome. Of course, there may be other sources of your bundle than WPW, but that one is not uncommon and I see it more in males than females. I saw several cases in the active duty troops at Ft. Carson. My nephew  had it and underwent a very successful ablation about 20+ years ago. 

Best wishes​​​,

Jim 


01/24/20 03:57 PM #6741    

 

Michael McLeod

Jocko: Did you notice what year it is according to the Chinese?

That's right. The year of the street rat.

Stick around long enough, you come into fashion.

Those of you who pray might want to send a few up for the Chinese.

Their celebration will be dampered quite a bit this year.

Basically they are all scared to death, as well they should be, about this virus.

 


01/24/20 04:14 PM #6742    

 

John Jackson

Just getting caught up on recent posts.  I could tell my own story of coronary arrhythmia here but it was pretty mild (and boring) compared to Jack’s and Bill’s. 

So I’ll change the subject again and take issue with Mike’s Jan. 22 post (6746) on James Whitcomb Riley.  The first poem scared the bejesus out of this 71 year old and reading it to a child could be grounds for a social worker to knock at your door the next day to take the child off to foster care (but I guess that was your point).  However, I think I speak for the overwhelming majority of the Class of ’66, Mike, when I say that the scatological subject of the second poem really has no place on this (usually) dignified Forum.  I think we’re all better off NOT knowing about your peculiar proclivities.

I’ll change the subject once again and say that Adam “Shifty” Schiff’s statement last night closing the second day of the impeachment hearings was the most extraordinary statement I’ve heard from a public official in all my years.  For those of you who are ambivalent or undecided on our President, I urge you to watch it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecpF26eMV3U


01/24/20 09:49 PM #6743    

 

David Mitchell

 Bonnie,

Great to hear your "voice" again here. If I was correct in finding your article, it really brings back a weird sort of "non- memory". I have long known of that famous little cafe as we drove through Walso several hundred times in my youth - on the way to our familiy's cottage near Gem Beach on Lake Erie. 

(Added later - I once saw a lady on national network news from New York City mention this same little famous baloney sandwich from Walso. She was the gorgeous black woman who used to anchor for one of the Columbus stations, and got moved up to the "big apple" for prime time anchor news. She later became famous for being the one major network anchor person to remain on the air while her building was going through those terrorist basement truck bombings  (a few years before 911)

In all those trips, we never once stopped for the famous balony sandwich as Waldo was too soon after leaving Columbus to stop. We had to get at least to Bucyrus before we could stop.

Speaking of that, we occasionally stopped at a nicer white table cloth restuarant just south of downtown Bucyrus, but more often at the boring chain "L&K" restaurant. Later, we discoverd the fabulous bratwurst being cooked on a grill that was actually mounted into the sidewalk, just north the Bucyrus town square. You parked on the street, waited for your brat to be ready, paid him cash, and either ate right there while you chatted with the guy, or walked back to chew it down in your car. There was an actual restaurant inside but we almost never went inside.  

Can anybody recall the name of that place?


01/25/20 09:39 AM #6744    

 

Michael McLeod

Don't blame me, John. Blame my parents for subjecting my sisters and me to the rough-hewn but, to my mind, charming Victorian-era poetry of this terrible, terrible man.

 

James Whitcomb Riley (October 7, 1849 – July 22, 1916) was an American writer, poet, and best-selling author. During his lifetime he was known as the "Hoosier Poet" and "Children's Poet" for his dialect works and his children's poetry. His poems tend to be humorous or sentimental. Of the approximately 1,000 poems Riley wrote, the majority are in dialect. His famous works include "Little Orphant Annie" and "The Raggedy Man".

 

By the 1890s, Riley had become known as a bestselling author. His children's poems were compiled into a book illustrated by Howard Chandler Christy. Titled Rhymes of Childhood, it was his most popular and sold millions of copies. As a poet, Riley achieved an uncommon level of fame during his lifetime. He was honored with annual Riley Day celebrations around the United States and was regularly called on to perform readings at national civic events. He continued to write and hold occasional poetry readings until a stroke paralyzed his right arm in 1910.

Riley's chief legacy was his influence in fostering the creation of a Midwestern cultural identity and his contributions to the Golden Age of Indiana Literature. With other writers of his era, he helped create a caricature of Midwesterners and formed a literary community that produced works rivaling the established eastern literati. There are many memorials dedicated to Riley, including the James Whitcomb Riley Hospital for Children.


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