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09/10/19 07:08 PM #6093    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave M.,  

Diagnosed the problem in Denver: pot and psychedelic mushrooms 🍄! 

Jim 


09/11/19 12:00 AM #6094    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

That and a noticeable lack of Quartrback sacks.

Would you prescribe a mile-high dose of Orange Crush?

 


09/11/19 02:41 AM #6095    

 

David Mitchell

Thinking of my beloved MIle High once-upon-a-time home (Denver), here is a string of stuff that relates in a very very, loose way. And I use that term even more "loosely".

As I mentioned earlier, several classmates continue to post interesting stuff on FB. I can hardly keep up with the volume. And Mary Ann keeps finding stuff that is just too fascinating to resist. She posted a fascinating little article (again) on to the epic heroism of the late Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii. You will recall him from that panel of "Watergate" investigators years ago. I am not in full agreement with every single thing he beleived, but his heroic combat service is beyond reproach.   

The excerpt she posted is another shocking incident of racial predjudice in our history. Inouye is a young Army Captain home from teh War - in uniform, with decorations - and one arm obviously blown off (from an attack on German soldiers in Europe) and walks into a barber shop back home in the U.S. around 1945. They refuse to cut his hair - saying "We don't cut 'Japs' hair".

He had been a member of the legendary 442nd Infantry regiment - an all Japanese American unit that became the single most decorated U.S. combat unit - ever! And many (if not most) of them were volunteers from Japanese Amercan families who were meanwhile imprisoned in so called "internment camps' spread over several Western states to keep us "safe" from "enemy aliens". The 442nd were thrown into in many suicide missions in France, Italy, and Germany after their families were ordered out of their own homes on the west cost and herded into virtual prison camps thrughout Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington (and others). They were dumps, and the people (all U.S. Citizens) were treated like dirt.

And this reminded me of other linked stories;

First. you may find two books (or more?) about this shameful chapter of history quite interesting - "Farewell To Manzanar", and "Snow Falling On Cedars".  They describe the siezure of property, and "Manzanar" goes into detail of the life in the "camps". It is my recollection that we did NOT return their properties to the rightfull owners after the war.       Correct me if I am wrong on that.

Coincidentally to this event and within two nights of Mary Ann's post, I just heard a late night interview with George Takei - the actor who played "Sulu" on the original TV Star Trek. As a member of a family in the "camps", he has written a book about about this titled, "They Called Us Enemy". The interview was fascinating, and more alarming than I had ever known. One item about the (then) Attorney General of California (later Governor, and later still, Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme court) Justice Earl Warren, was so shocking of a racist legal decison I could hardly believe it!  His decisiosn was something like this: (roughly from memory) "They are legal U.S. citizens and have done nothing wrong. But their implacable Orinetal expressions are possibly hiding something that we cannot discern, so let's lock them up just in case". He later felt very remorseful about the decision and well he should have.

Amazing! And you thought the "Wall" was a new issue?

And this all reminds me of a family friend while I was gowing up in Columbus. We were good friends of a family who's husband and father was one of Dad's best friends. I think they became friends through Ohio State medical school. His name was George Shinowara, and he had spent some time with his famliy in an internment camp in (I believe?) Arizona. He had every right to hold a grudge, but he was the least bitter man you could imagine. In fact he was one of the funniest people I ever knew. Every St. Patrick's day he would brag that he was Irish, saying his name was "Shin-O'Hara". I know he shared some of his family's "Camp" history with Dad, but I was too young at the time.

Now back to Colorado. After the War, there was a governor of Colorado who made a declaration that any Japanese Americans were welcome there. Quite a few Japanese Amerians did come to Colorado and many settled in Denver. A couple of elderly Japanese still lived within a few doors of some property I owned in a run-down neighborhood just north of downtwon - which was about to become a popular Historic District  known as "Curtis Park". I was gradually able to get to know one little old Japanese lady who explained some of this to me. 

And this Japanese population remained so prevalent in Denver that part of a 1970 urban renewal effort covering many blocks in lower downtown (now known as "LoDo") included a single block of newly developed all-Japanese businesses centered around a medium high rise apartment tower for Japanes ciizens known as "Sakura Square". At one time it contained both of the once popular Japanese steak house franchises - Benihana and I forget the other(?) - as well as a fancy Sake bar, Japanese dry cleaner, and a Japnese travel agency.  

(A bit like our all-Vietnamese shopping center out on Federal Boulevard - with a little dive of a Vietnamese restaurant that became legenday - drawing restaraunt critcs from Los Angeles - who stood in line for hours!) 

Finally, this Japanese population comprised such an audience that one of Denver's public TV stations (Channel 31, if I recall correctly - eh Jim?) ran a regular Japanese movie night, by which I was captivated. I would plan my TV viewing around this weekly movie schedule. Among others, I saw one of my all-time favorite films "The Burmese Harp" (1956) about a WW2 Japanese combat platoon in the Pacific. One of them plays a small harp which they all become accustomed to. Their unit fights such bloody battles that the harp player vows to become a pacifist and Buddhist monk if they survive the War. He comes back to them as a monk while some of them are in an American prison camp after the War. He begins playing his harp near the barbed wire fence and they all recognize his music and are thrilled to see him. The film was so touching I have never forgotten it!

Hope some of that may have been of interest to some of you. 


09/11/19 09:43 AM #6096    

 

Mark Schweickart

Beautiful post, Dave. I would just add that A Snow Falling on Cedars is also a terrific movie with stunning cinematography and music score that amplify its ever-poignant story.


09/11/19 10:01 AM #6097    

 

Michael McLeod

I'm not sure why. And I'm not sure I want to know why. But for some reason the 9/11 anniversary really caught up to me this year. 


09/11/19 12:18 PM #6098    

 

David Mitchell

Re: my post # 6112 above.

Added note: I see a book titled "The Harp of Burma" which apears to be the same story as "The Burmese Harp" film.  

And yes, Mark, there was a film version of Snow Falling on Cedars. But I thought it sort of lost the story in too many cuts back and forth between flashbacks. I could be wrong - it's been many years. But no question the book is wonderful.

 

 

Mike,

I don't know if it will ever go away in our memories. Like our parents with Pearl Harbor. I am often caught up in the many side-stories, some of which are touching, sad, even heroic.

One of those stories is about the people of Gander Newfoundland, who received, transported, sheltered and fed all those incoming flights from Europe that could not land in the USA.

I had friends recently tellling me about a new play on Broadway called "Come From Away", that depicts this heartwarming effort to accommodate all those travleers. One of the interesting facts I recall from a short documentary years ago was that Gander's bus drivers had just gone on strike, but when they heard what was about to happen, they immediately went back to work and shuttled all those poeple to shelters and dinning facilities. And stayed at work until the crisis passed. My friends said the play was really enjoyable.


09/11/19 01:56 PM #6099    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Hi, forum readers. You missed a great trip to Detroit and the Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village with an amazing guide in Jack Maxwell. I am waiting on a few more photos then I will put an album up. 

As to Jack’s comment about moving long topics over to the User forum I’m not as direct as Jack lol but I have been meaning to post something about this. You all received my letter about the amazing success of our website and our Message Forum in particular. Sometimes success comes at a cost. In this case it’s that instead of the ability to see a quick post and respond more like texting, a few of you are posting tomes that belong in the library... well ok I’m exaggerating but you get my drift.  

We have the User Forum for those and now that we have exceeded over 6000 posts I think it’s time we transitioned to this for specific topics. A few of you already do this and I thank you. 

Dave, recently you apologized for hogging the forum, may I suggest a new user forum on football? You can start it and proceed any way you like, i.e., NFL, college, just Buckeyes, all of the above.  

I know many have been reluctant to veer from this page but you get the same email message when someone posts to a user forum as well. 

Your boat building would have made a great separate topic as well as your Vietnam posts. How about Dorian? As I say lots of topics could easily move to their own user forum. Many of you are a treasure trove of knowledge. Why not put these various topics in their own user forums where they are archived and anyone can peruse and comment at their leisure? With over 6000 posts now it’s simply impossible to go back in any organized fashion. 

This is not just for Dave Mitchell although he certainly wins the award for our most prolific poster ;) and I think that’s a good thing. But I would like all of you to think about this as you decide to post on topics that invite serious or fun feedback. 

I think it would be an asset to the forum and a benefit to all. By all means use this forum to advertise your new topic. That’s a must but invite us to look at your new forum freeing up the everyday message forum for more random comments or posts.  The Message Forum might include links for other reading as many of you already do but the post itself is of reasonable length and I’m sure you are all saying this is an awfully long post, Janie, for a message telling us to keep it short. Lol

This is just a suggestion. This is not my forum. But everyone, give it some thought. :) Many people have mentioned they no longer pay much attention because the posts are just too long. 

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09/11/19 02:21 PM #6100    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

May God Bless the U.S.A. #9/11 can be read over on the User Forum.  

Janie, I am looking forward to seeing all the photos from your trip "up North"....I am so sorry to have had to miss it! 


09/11/19 04:16 PM #6101    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

To Mary Margaret AND all the unfortunite classmates that did not, or were not able to, join in the trip to Greenfield Village you really missed a great time. Not only was Jack a great guide, he even had the actual guides asking him for info.  Monday night he took us on a five mile trip to a great restaraunt in Dearborn; then about a mile back to the hotel.  Just joking.  The time we had to ride the train,and hide from the coal smoke, was followed bya Model "T" ride and a ride on a bus pulled by horses. Otherwise we walked, Janey has the actual step count, about two zillion miles, and it was worth every minute (err hour). 

I had to leave the next morning while the rest of the group visited the Henry Ford Museum.  And probably drove ten miles to a great restaraunt two blocks from the hotel.

I am glad I stayed in Columbus the extra days so that I was able to make the trip.  It was more than worth it to see the sites and be with a wonderful group of classmates.

Joe


09/11/19 07:28 PM #6102    

 

Timothy Lavelle

Janie, I have an over-active "fairness gland" that is constantly bickering with my "humorous gland". Like, after reading about bullying somewhere, now I feel badly about saying "Gee Don"...esentially telling one of our classmates "you're not worth my time".

I saw a horse once, desperately trying to rid itself of a pair of pants...it was a "pantomine" because he had no pants on. Dave Mitchell was talking to the horse about his father and loaches and the horse was trying to say "You are boring my pantomimy pants off Dude".

I don't think Dave can bore anyone more than he does me. BUT...isn't asking him to move to another page just a different version of "Gee Don"? Dave may actually be our first "serial blogger", bludgeoning readers with double-digit references to Moon River. Even so, didn't we all learn "words will never hurt me".

Why be regulated? Regulation for what? From what and for whom? The fact that I get totally bored with Dave's crap certainly does not mean (to me) that he should be sent to "long message camp"...or anyone else. How about if we all grow a pair and not worry about such tiny tiny beans?

Dave, you don't really need to comment on every person's comments here. Its boring and you come across as needy so please stop that.

As for the rest of you, especially to those who never write, I really don't give a good goddamn what your opinion is. Just SAY IT OUT LOUD. 


09/11/19 09:42 PM #6103    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Tim, I thought we’d lost you from the forum! 

I wanted to say why don’t you tell us how you really feel...but like Jack, I know we can always count on that. ;)

I do hear what you are saying but I really do think a number of people have very interesting things to say. They just aren’t necessarily things that have a wide audience. I don’t see it as banishment at all. I just think it frees up the forum for shorter comments and gives a landing place for longer topics. Or as Jack called them Op-ed’s.  NYT eat your heart out.  :)

As I said it’s only a sugggestion. 


09/11/19 10:15 PM #6104    

 

David Mitchell

Good advice Janie and Tim. My apologies to all.

I need to disengage the "bump stock" from my "semi-automatic" keyboard.

It could save a few lives.


09/12/19 10:56 AM #6105    

 

Frank Ganley

There need not be a rule as to where, how long, and about what in this forum. When watching a tv show and you’re not interested you hit the clicker to next. If reading a magazine and the next article is long snd tedious like reading Tolstoy, just follow Bob Seger’s advice “ Turn the Page”. It is a forum where all thoughts, recollection and topics are discussed, rants, rages against natural occursnces, a debate on the stupidity to  global Warming should be all allowed! Without personal attacks . Remember you can always scroll to the next entry. 


09/12/19 10:58 AM #6106    

 

Mark Schweickart

I, for one, enjoy reading Dave's posts, but then again, I can be pretty windy myself at times, so I may not be the best judge. You may recall, a couple of months ago, I lobbied for a short reprieve from posts done by myself, Dave M and Mike M to give others a chance to talk, but unfortunately, after a few days of waiting for the vacuum to fill, not much happened so we jumped back in. I think those on the Forum have done a pretty good job of keeping our political views to ourselves, which for awhile was beginning to drive us into polarized camps, and was making the Forum a less fun place to visit. As we all keep saying, but without success, we need the others who come to the site to join in the conversation.


09/12/19 11:49 AM #6107    

 

Michael McLeod

One simple restriction would be a word limit to posts.

A hundred words, say.

You'd surprised how fast a hundred words go by.

What would bore me most of all, though, would be a restriction on topics.

 

 


09/12/19 11:49 AM #6108    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

I enjoy reading all posts and would really like to have more of our classmates join in the discussions and add new ones. Granted that brevity is appreciated, I realize some issues require more verbiage. Since the "Message Forum" comments are open to be read by the billions of people worldwide who have internet access (although only our classmates can sign in to post them), more personal and sensitive topics would be better posted on the "User Forum" to give a higher degree of protection from identity theft. 

Jim 

 

 


09/12/19 12:15 PM #6109    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

As today is the feast day of the Name of Mary, I am wondering who remembers singing this hymn in grade school?

https://www.facebook.com/mary.m.schultheis/videos/pcb.10217156246450536/10217156235490262/?type=3&theater  


09/12/19 01:00 PM #6110    

 

David Mitchell

Please pardon me for one more post.

Seems we got side-tracked yesterday about something less important. My bad.

I had intended to post one of many videos about that awful day. This is a "positive" story that I have enjoyed for years. Many of you have heard it. I just realized there are dozens of videos about this incident. But this one has something a little more interesting for those of us born under the sign of the "Buckeye". Listen and look closely at 3:46 on the timer. (added ) I think she eventully raised over one million $$.

(this video is now 10 years old)

Also, The town of Gander gets most of the credit, but two other small towns on Newfoundland also were involved.

Note: There is a new stage play/musical about this that is drawing excellent reviews. Friends of mine saw it and loved it. It is called "Come From Away" an expression used by the mayor of Gander.




09/12/19 01:06 PM #6111    

 

Michael McLeod

I am not going to open up the MM post about the BVM song but will just rely on memory.

It's got to be:

"Oh Mary we crown thee with blossoms, today.

Queen of the angels, queen of the May."

 

That's gotta be the tune.

 

Also, Dave - FYI

 

http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Blogs/Metropoly/June-2019/Oh-Canada/

 

 

 


09/12/19 01:35 PM #6112    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

It's "Salve Regina" (Hail Holly Queen") 

a personal favorite from back in the day 


09/12/19 01:50 PM #6113    

 

Michael McLeod

What the hell! I flunked my own name that tune quiz!

Then why is that other song hammered into me?

I know damn well I didn't hear it on American Bandstand. Or WCOL. 


09/12/19 02:15 PM #6114    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

I can’t believe the day has come that I agree with Frank. And Mike, your song was imbedded from the May crownings we did each year—long processions, lots of incense, droning chants, beautiful songs. 


09/12/19 03:09 PM #6115    

 

Michael McLeod

Thank you M.C.

And now, oh man just now it comes back to me and I can hear my mother singing it.

She had a lovely soprano voice. Sitting here at my desk I can hear it clear as day.

And yep, having taken some time to think it over, I also agree with Frank. Which is disorienting as hell. Feels like I just got airdropped into the Burning Man festival. 

 


09/12/19 03:47 PM #6116    

 

Deborah Alexander (Rogers)

Thanks for all the wonderful birthday wishes from my classmates!  So nice of to receive good wishes from long ago friends with whom we are in touch again!  I'm so thankful so many of us are still here!!


09/12/19 03:48 PM #6117    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Time once again for my "almost" faboulous travelogue.  I depart, with sorrow, tomorrow (Sept. 13th) on ourreturn drive to California.

Packed half of yesterdayand most of today; loading the SUV starts after dinner this evening.

Today we decided to go to lunch one last time at The Polaris Grill.  As much as I would have liked to have a "55 Salad" I opted for the Walleye sandwich.  They donna hav no stinkin Walleye in California.  I love seafood.  Tonight we have decided to go to our fall back restaraunt, close to the hotel and allows us to order just what we like off the menu Board, the MCL cafeteria in Kingsdale.

Tomorrow I hope to start out by 7:30 A.M..  We are driving to the West side of Omaha/Lakeside for the evening.

I will attempt to write every evening so that you have something to put yourself to sleep.

Joe

 


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