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09/06/18 01:28 PM #3942    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dave – To be honest, I was always a Four Tops guy myself. But that doesn't change my enthusiasm for recommending this Temptations show, Ain't Too Proud.

And speaking of making recommendations, here's a toss out to the class for a topic changer – what have you been reading lately that we all might be interested in? (Oh, and let's leave out books covering our current political situation, since we know how that can devolve into unwanted rancor here on the forum.) 

My favorite read this summer was Charles Frazier's new book, Varina. You might remember Frazier from his earlier, highly acclaimed Cold Mountain. This one is also set in the Civil War era, and the Varina of the title is none other than Varina Davis, the wife of Jefferson Davis. It starts in 1906, when,  as an elderly woman staying at a spa-type resort in upstate New York, she is surprised to have a middle-aged black man seek her out one day. It turns out that he was a small child in her custody who was with her, along with her own children, when she fled south after the fall of Richmond in hope of eventually making it to Havana. And thus, the old memories come flooding back, as we experience this exceptionally fine rendering of not just the flight, but of most of her life. One thing is clear from the get-go, this woman is not anything like one might off-handedly expect – no priviledged Southern Belle with notions of the righteousness of the Southern cause, here. Who would have thought that our hearts would ever go out to this First Lady of the South? This is a story that is not only historicaly informative, but even moreso it is heart-breakingly poignant, and masterfully delivered by Frazier whose prose dazzles us while remaining uttelry easy to read. Here's a sample from the opneing scene to possibly pique your interest:

An elderly woman enters the great room from one of the corridors. She resembles later photograpphs of Queen Victoria–much taller but with similar gravity dragging from behind. Same hairstyle. Her dress a sheen of eggplant. She walks past the piano player and palms the small of her back to correct her posture. 

James doesn't recognize the woman, but makes an assumption and stands.

At the chair beside the settle, V stops and says, Mr. Blake? I don't recollect your name, but I'm curious.

– Yes, ma'm. Thank you for seeing me I'll be brief. What I wanted to see you about concerns the war.

She had started to sit, but now remains standing.

– Please, I'm long since exhausted with that insane war, and don't need to re-dream a nightmare.

V turns to walk away, but then turns back, angry.

She tells him how uninterested she is in the past, except people keep trying to clench its fists around her throat. Whatever old story he needs to tell, she's heard a thousand of them–all the tales of waste and loss. And heaps of guilt too, for failing to find a bloodless way to end ownership of people–choosing a bloodbath instead. Since then, South and North have been busy constructing new memories and new histories, fictions fighting to become facts.

– If you haven't notice, she says, we are a furious nation, and war drums beat in our chest. Our leaders proclaim better than they negotiate. The only bright side is, the right side won. My only advice is to be where you are now – don't look back.

Of course, what we are about to witness is just that – her looking back. And what a look back it is. Well done, Mr. Frazier.

So fellow book club members, what else should be on the reading list?


09/06/18 01:55 PM #3943    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike,

From my limited recollection of a two month med school rotation on the Psychiatry Service at Upham Hall, I do remember one thing about dreams. We dream during REM sleep and that happens multiple times during the sleep cycle. We usually only remember what we dreamt during the last REM cycle before we awaken. It makes one wonder what you were dreaming prior to the Beauregard dream and if they fit together with that last dream. No way of knowing...

"Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God."

Jim

09/06/18 02:44 PM #3944    

 

David Mitchell

Just a quck thought before someone jumps in on the Dreams and Reading List stuff - 

Like Tim asked, did we ever learn how Linda is. I wrote her a note almost a year ago but never heard back. 

 

And  Joe, are you anywhere near the current fires?  Sounds like you are not affected down south Mark???


09/06/18 05:50 PM #3945    

Timothy Lavelle

Upham Hall...Jim, I was sure I met you somewhere else way after WHS...


09/06/18 06:28 PM #3946    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Dave, I left Columbus on Tuesday and am currently in Evanston, IL.  We start the return trip Saturday and expect to arrive home LATE next Tuesday.  The fires I know of are Northeast about three hours driving time away.  Right now I just hope we don’t run into snow on I-80.


09/06/18 06:58 PM #3947    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Just learned of the I-5 Fire near the Oregon border.  This is approximately seven hours   North  North-East  y. Car or a couple hundred miles.


09/06/18 07:07 PM #3948    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dave -- Fortunately there are no fires currently very near us at the moment. One in Anaheim I think is the closest, which is about 1.5 hrs away by car. Thanks for asking.


09/06/18 07:35 PM #3949    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Tim,

I don't recall you at Upham Hall - but wait! We did have to put in some time seeing the most severe cases on the wards at the State Hospital. That must have been it!

Jim

09/07/18 10:00 AM #3950    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

Larry,

So sad to see the news of terror in your beautiful Cincinnati. It’s such a great city. As with classmates from other communities (Orlando, Phoenix, Chicago, Seattle, even little Columbus), it’s another shattering awareness when it happens.  My heart is with you and Cincinnati today. Peace & comfort. 

Clare

 


09/07/18 11:03 AM #3951    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

A couple things. Linda Baer is doing great! It’s her birthday today. It’s says 70 but I’m pretty sure that’s a typo. She looks 40!  Wish her a happy one! 

I won an award last night at our community garden harvest dinner. It was due to the Mexican sunflowers that attract butterflies and bees like crazy. Someone said they counted 5 monarchs on it the other day. This all came about because Monica Haban Brown gave me a packet of these seeds. I’d never heard of Mexican sunflowers before she introduced me. :)


09/07/18 11:28 AM #3952    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Janie,

Congrats! You must have the green thumb and a whole bunch of lucky bees and butterflies!

Jim

09/07/18 01:00 PM #3953    

 

Sheila McCarthy (Gardner)

Janie: Great news about Linda and your award... I have photographic proof somewhere of Linda Baer at my first grade birthday party, circa 1955 ... She didn't look 70 then either, I would say about 6 or 7! Always a beauty, our Linda.

 


09/07/18 01:46 PM #3954    

Timothy Lavelle

Such good news this morning...baby bear is OK and hitting 70!...Janie got an award...I am groping for some humorous line about the contest officials not knowing what surname to use, so they just left it "blank"...surely anyone can beat that poor attempt at humor. C'mon, if you can't tell Mark what you've been reading, at least remind me how funny you can be. 

Something made me glance at the newest list of Seven-oh! inductees a day or two ago. I was taken back to St. Agatha's grade school where I arrived in the 6th grade. All I can think is "God, what a lovely childhood" we all shared. Debbie, Jeanine, Ellen, Kathy and all the rest of you guys n gals, ALL 'Aggies', thank you for wonderful, laugh-filled memories and HAPPY-HAPPY! Tim

 


09/07/18 02:04 PM #3955    

 

Deborah Alexander (Rogers)

Tim,

We "Aggies" did have fun, didn't we?  You always kept us laughing and we realy were a lucky bunch to have such a wonderful childhood.  Sometimes when I take walks with my daughter, we pass by your old house in UA, and I always think of those summer days when Linda Testa and I would come over and sit on the porch with you and figure out what to do that day.  Seems impossible that we are all turning 70! 


09/07/18 02:38 PM #3956    

 

Mark Schweickart

Tim -- It's no wonder those judges awarded Janie a prize. How could they have done otherwise, once they saw how "all bright" her Mexican sunflowers were?


09/07/18 04:47 PM #3957    

 

David Mitchell

Congrats Janie - YOU ROCK!

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Mark,

Maybe this is a bit dated (been out a couple years) but I really enjoyed "The Wright Brothers", by David McCollough. Okay, Okay we all grew up in Ohio and we had all of two paragraphs in our history books about them. Two brothers had a bike shop in Dayton -  la dee dah. And tried a crazy stunt down on the dunes of North Carolina a long long time ago la dee dah - and it worked! Nice story. 

But OOOOOMMMMMGGGG! there is so much more to the story than that. I love history and really liked this one.  

And one vote for "All the Light We Cannot See" by Anthony Doerr. Two children growing up in diffeent parts of WWII  - a young boy from Germany with a tiny crystal radio, trying to hear the news, and a little blind girl in a small town in nortthern France.

(Oops, 'scuse me - Paris first, then a small town in northern France)

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Tim and Debbie, 

You guys had it nice. From your own baseball diamond WITH full baseball uniforms, to hot chicks galore. It doesn't get mcuh better than that.

 

Does it?

 

 


09/07/18 08:50 PM #3958    

 

Frank Ganley

Four tops, tempting temptation, et al . They all were great and thank the sweet lord he gave “off bradeay “ i believe in summit, where i saw “ bob seger and the last herd” and let us give a standing O to the “ sugar shack” for not only great for opening all up from soul to rock and ever other genre. During as a great friend “ during my brief” college career but fun where i aced stroh’s beer and front riw at the shake. Aand after a night of loud music and ice cold beer( country  tune) we iff either to white castle or warren’s. I went to whetstone senior year and was in homeroom with his daughter. I can only imagine what he heard and memorized our faces so if we ever thought of dating her we would be shot on sight. On fires i pray you are all far far away. When we go thru a drought many huge fires breakiut from lightning, we are the lightning capitol of the WORLD. 

Dave i must take as a slap in the face of your grade school. Yes you gave st ags kudo’s and wished your school, ouch. I think you went to IC so mary margaret was not hot, puch, Mary Claire, and my memoriy fail me but not thenIf you went to OLP poor mary ann you have just deflated her ego for life, or toni, mary Kay,nina, i kathy O’Rielly are not feeling too good now . I went to school in phila a class of 60+ in one classroom and as a 13 year old boy they all were hot. So Dave giving a thumps up to one school girl, shame,shame. As i approach you’re elitest little club of 70 i now find the majority of ladies that are almost or on soc sec are much cooler, relaxed and funnier . Its amazing how we change in some way yet hold on so tight to our youthful memories and feel sorry for children today. Ah to be this smart now but as a 16 year old. As mark  twain so wisely wrote youth is wasted on the young. 

 


09/07/18 10:21 PM #3959    

 

David Mitchell

Frank,

I did go to OLP (not IC) , and as you so clearly pointed out, we had NO shortage of young beauties in our class either. Pity, we males were such childish jack asses at that age. How those ladies suffered our behavior is truly the stuff of miracles.

Can anyone recall the language of those days?  "She's really "tough" - meaning pretty, gorgeous, or attractive - we must have been from Krypton,,,,,,,,,, or Chillicothe,,,,,,,or the Home for the Criminally Immature.


09/07/18 11:25 PM #3960    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dave -- We seem to be on a similar wavelength. I have read both of the books you mentioned and agree that they are excellent recommendations. If you like McCullough's work, I am sure you would also like his book, The Great Bridge–the Epic Story of the Building of the Brooklyn Bridge.  My only complaint with his books is that sometimes it seems as if there is never a detail too insignificant for him to include. But I think this was less of a problem in this particular book that was truly fascinating. Of course I am a sucker for this kind of history. As I probably have mentioned before that not too long ago I wrote a screenplay about the building of the Statue of Liberty (wrote, not sold, mind you). I love discovering the back stories to things we so often take for granted. Everyone knows that someone in France decided to make a gift of the Statue to this country, but that is pretty much all we know. How this outrageous idea came to be and how it was actually accomplished, most of us know very little about. At the time it was not only the largest statue ever made, but also the tallest stucture in the entire United States when it was built. There was no Manhattan skyline yet. Also, it came just after the humiliating defeat of France in the Franco-Prussian War, which was followed immediately by the ferocious quashing of the Communard Revolt that left 20,000 Parisans lying dead in the streets. Why would somone be interested in giving away giant statues at a time like that? There's got to be quite a story there. And there is.


09/08/18 02:39 AM #3961    

 

David Mitchell

Mark,

About 25 years ago there was a really good National Geographic special about Bartholdi and his creation of the statue. I had a VHS video of it somewhere that I recorded from my home TV. Not sure if I still have it.

 


09/08/18 02:57 AM #3962    

 

David Mitchell

Please note!

My apologies to those who misunderstood my post #3967. I was making a jest about Tim's comment on growing up in St. Agatha's school. I was both agreeing with, and making further jest about those fun, silly, grade school days. Very surprised how it could have been read any other way.

Apologies to those who were offended.

 


09/08/18 09:19 AM #3963    

 

Frank Ganley

Dave sorry if you mistook my attemp of some humor. I do remember the story of the building of our national treasure and the difficult of raiising funds for its reconstruction and the base. Facinating also was the repairs that needed to be made for the celebration of our 200 years as a nation. Equally fascinating was the story of how john roebling designed and built the brooklyn bridge. Amazing in its construction of the towers the digging to find bedrock and having no success but to dig so deep that the men and roebling were inflicked with cassin disease now called the bends. Roebking suffered from it so much that he directed the construction from a small window of his apartment near the bridge. Our history of building great things and finding ways to overcome difficulties.    


09/08/18 11:47 AM #3964    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dave -- I am quite familiar with the Ken Burns documentary from 1985, in fact this was exactly what first really piqued my interest about learning more about this story. I bought a copy of this while in the gift shop the first time I visited the Statue back in the late 80s. He did an excellent job, but the story is far more compelling than what is covered in the documentary. The best book that I have found doing research on this topic is Elizabeth Mitchell's 2014 book: Liberrty's Torch: The Great Adventure to Build the Statue of Liberty. Aside from the ever-persistent hustle of Bartholdi, who was the sculptor and prime mover of this project, there are a host of  colorful minor characters who played important roles-- his mentor Laboulaye who first suggested the idea of making a gift of some sort to the U.S. for our 1876 Centennial, the disgraced Civil War General Charles Stone who engineered the actual construction on Liberty Island, the always peculiar Joseph Pulitzer who championed the fund-raising and saved the day with what amounted to what we would call today a KickStarter or Go-Fund-Me campaign, the Khedive of Egypt, whose rejection of Bartholdi's ideas for a statue at the mouth of the about-to-be-completed Suez Canal eventually found expression in Lady Liberty, Bartholdi's older brother who sadly went insane, the flamboyant, aging Italian General Garibaldi who came to help the Frech forces during the Fraonco-Prussian war and who made Bartholdi his aide-de-camp, Bartholdi's wife who modeled for him as the strong-armed lady,  and of course none of this would have happened without Bartholdi's strong-willed, widowed mother whose dedication and resources saw to it that he had the chance to become the artist she knew he would become. Sorry... sorry... I tend to get carried away when I start talking about things I have written about. I'll shut up now.

Don't get me started on John and Jessie Frémont, I can go on for days.


09/08/18 11:54 AM #3965    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Thanks to all of you for indulging me in my bragging about my Mexican sunflowers. Monica Haban should be getting the credit and awards because she gave me the seeds! 

Mark, Varina sounds like a great book.  I’ll put it on my list.  My book club read a book this month I did not really love but the history is something we barely know of and was quite interesting in that sense. It’s called Pachinko by Min Jin Lee and it’s about the Japanese occupation of Korea and its aftermath. It was a national book award finalist so I do wonder what I’m missing. We discuss in another week.  

 


09/08/18 12:06 PM #3966    

 

David Mitchell

Wow Mark, a period or two in there would have allowed you to breath. And oh, by the way, interesting stuff.

And Frank, I think that is the same Roebling who earlier did teh slighty smaller, but similar looking bridge in Cincinnati - what turned out to be a sort of "trial run". And do I recall correctly that it was the first suspension bridge in the world?

 


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