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05/15/18 10:54 AM #3181    

 

David Mitchell

Anybody rememeber,,, "Come Day, Go Day. God Send Sunday" 


05/15/18 09:03 PM #3182    

Timothy Lavelle

Dear Pope,

Thank you for the birthday card and for remembering me from the last time we met as "the man who ran through the audience screaming 'You Canot Petition the Lord with Prayer' " in my best Jim Morrison imitation.

I have a problem that could certainly use some of your 'Ooommph' to solve. You may recall when we sat chatting that I mentioned hearing many years back about a group with a strange name...Jews For Jesus...a name that stuck with me. I mentioned that I thought they were really a CIA front for distributing Christian literature in China...but I digress as usual.

Franny, I need your help in a big way. I've just found out that one of my favorite TV shows is being cancelled. You'll be happy to know the show has religious overtones. So, if you could find it in your all inclusive heart to help me start up a group that I know will get the highest attention from the programming execs that would be great.

"Catholics for Lucifer"....what do you think?     


05/16/18 11:08 AM #3183    

 

Michael McLeod

(Looks up at the sky, scanning for lightning bolts. Takes several steps away from Tim).


05/16/18 11:23 AM #3184    

 

Mark Schweickart

Okay, Tim, you win the bong-pipe prize for most cryptic post of the month. We oldsters may remember your reference to Jim Morrison's Soft Parade lyrics from way back when, but help us out here, which present day show's cancellation has gotten your knickers twisted? Or is that not really the point? Is the point just to make our morning-coffee-WHS-Forum-reading ritual take a psychedelic dive into La-La-LaVelle Land? I enjoyed  it regardless, although I am still scatching my head, SAY Whaaaat?


05/16/18 12:01 PM #3185    

 

David Mitchell

Oh my, this could be serious!  Now he's gone so far as to have Frank write his posts for him. 


05/16/18 01:36 PM #3186    

Timothy Lavelle

O my Pope...

If someone so bright as Hollywood Mark does not get it then I have really missed the er, uh...mark.

Big Hints:

1) It's a TV show

2) It has rereportably been cancelled

3) It is one your non-believing friend would joke about

4) For Mark, and anyone who has read this far (yeah, that's BOTH of you), the name of the show is Lucifer! Thus "Catholics for... o never mind...

 


05/16/18 07:22 PM #3187    

 

David Mitchell

Sorry Tim,

I thought you might have meant "Luther" on PBS - a wonderful series about a tough, gritty, black London Detective, starring Idris Elba. Rather edgy, sicko murder cases - and he always solves them.

Wrong show I guess. My bad. 

 

But still, having Frank write your posts for you could be kinda fun. 

 

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*I use the term "black" because I can't use "African American" in this case. Do the Brits use the term "African British"? or "African English"?  How about "African Cockney"?

I hope that's not going to be on the quiz after we hit 10,000 posts......... Janie???


05/16/18 08:00 PM #3188    

 

Mark Schweickart

Tim -- Sorry I was unaware of the show Lucifer, but in my defense, how can one possibly be aware of all of the thousands of choices for our TV watching  these days? Makes you almost yearn to see a test-pattern again. Well, maybe not. But hey, how about some props for recognizing your "You cannot petition the Lord with prayer" reference? 

To paraphrase an old Van Morrison song, "Rave on Tim LaVelle. Rave on!" You're probably as close to a John Donne as this class is likely to have. Rave on.


05/18/18 09:38 PM #3189    

Timothy Lavelle

Mark,

Props...You  broke the Forum!


05/19/18 02:27 PM #3190    

 

Mark Schweickart

Tim -- Sorry about that, but actually it was you who sent us down that rabbit hole.

So let's change to a more nostalgic subject and enjoy this version of Don McLean's American Pie. This you tube version offers explanatory images as the song unfolds that I thought to be very cleverly done.




05/19/18 02:36 PM #3191    

 

David Mitchell

Late last night, I posted  a message of grieving (a video of Eric Clapton singing "Tears in Heaven". I chose it over REM's "Everybody Hurts", and Simon and Garfunkle's "Sounds of Silence"). I fiddled with them until the wee hours of the morning but then I took it down. I think the day itself was heavy enough.

In these two days where we see all the news from a small town in Texas to St. Georges Chapel at Windsor Castle, we have seen the very extremes of Darkness vs. the Light - of hatred and loneliness vs. joy and a family's celebration of life. I agree with the governor of Texas (for once!) and Houston Astros manager A.J. Hinch, and many others in Texas and all over, who are simply "tired" of just "prayers and good wishes", that we need more real action to bring about change, but this video should remind us all where change begins. A beautiful way to spend 6 minutes of your time.

Just imagine if a young high school boy in Santa Fe Texas had been hearing this message. Just imagine if the school boards woke up to the responsibilities (and risks) they face in today's society. Just imagine if a group of lawmakers had the balls (and common sense) to stand up and be men. Just imagine if today's kids could go to school with the sense of security we had back in the day.  Just imagine! 

There really is Power in Love!




05/19/18 02:40 PM #3192    

 

David Mitchell

Mark,

Perfect! 

I don't think I knew how many connections the song contained - yes a few that we all got right away - but not that many. I thought Waylen Jennings took the bus because he hated to fly. This has to be one of the songs of our age.

Still, Life is good!

Thanks


05/19/18 05:58 PM #3193    

 

Frank Ganley

Dave, no words , songs or eulogies can make sense of this. There is no way to know what the parents feel or how the cope with a child lost. I do. The ain is unimagineable but one promise of the Lord is He makes sure  you have no more than you can bear. I pray it soon will stop . Dave you made mention of a post that i was now ghost writing for my learned friend on the west coast. No i could not approach his masterful way he turns a phrase. Now the question. Where did it go? Was it censored? Did we run out of space? Did it say anything disparaging about anyone? So i ask the question, what happened to the post. 

 

 


05/19/18 09:57 PM #3194    

 

David Mitchell

Frank,

I think it went the way of all my poor attempts at humor - nowhere.


05/20/18 06:38 AM #3195    

 

Fred Clem

David,

Tears in Heaven by Eric Clampton is a classic song about the personal loss of his son, Conor..  

Did you know the current Mrs. Clapton, Melia McEnery, is a BWHS graduate, I believe class of '95.  She attended St. Michael grade school.  They were married in 2002 and have 3 children together.  Her father was just a couple years behind us (class of '68).  There were rumors they purchased a riverfront home on Dublin Road, near St. Brendan church (just for return visits to her family).

Melia Clapton Columbus Ohio | Videos for melia. Content at the group of columbus, ohio, mcenerys ...

An article on how they met:

They met at a party in LA in 1998 thrown by Giorgio Armani, Clapton's partner in the Crossroads re-hab centre on Antigua. Melia was working for Armani at the time and she and others in his staff had been asked to host the event on the strict understanding that they were not to fraternise with any of the guests. " So Melia came straight up to me and said, 'My uncle's a big fan of yours, can I get your autograph?' And that was that. There was something about her… strength. She occupied her space with absolute authority. It was clear that even though she was half my age she was capable of being an adequate partner for anybody."

Falling in love properly for the first time was one thing, but starting a family was another. Clapton's experience of his own parents did not make fatherhood an easy or natural role for him to adopt. He hadn't enjoyed a close relationship with either of the mothers of his two previous children - Conor who died and Ruth, now 22 - and, regrettable as this was, he had a readymade excuse.


05/20/18 12:12 PM #3196    

 

Mark Schweickart

Fred, speaking of St. Michael Grade School being the center for "brushes with greatness", it seems to me our shool had  some connection with George Clooney as well. As a St. Michael alumnus, I should probably know this story , but I don't. Was he a student there for awhile?


05/20/18 02:05 PM #3197    

 

David Mitchell

 

Okay Fred (and you too Mark), you were reading my mind. I was going to post this today myself and I have a bit more to add to the story.

My daughers went to Watterson with the two sisters (not too many nice things to say about either one by the way). The older sister was in the same class with my Sara, and the one pictured here was (I think) in a class between my two daughters. Sara was flying back from her home in South Pasadena over a holiday and sat across the isle from the older sister who was filling Sara in on some of the details. Then an older cousin of mine came to know part of the story through a friend of his in Columbus.

Briefly; The child was the result of a night spent together after the party mentioned in your article. When Melia was about to deliver in a Columbius Hospital, Eric felt the need to be present at the birth, so he flew into Columbus a short time before to be with Melia. He had no intention of marrying her, but was just there for moral support at the birth**. But at the delivery, he was apparantly completely overcome with a sense of responsibility and fell head over heels in love with the baby. They married and are still together I think. 

I read somewhere that they keep his historic country estate house in England, a home in Los Angeles, and part time in Dublbin (or Powell) near her family.

I do beleive they bought a home up in Dublin (or Powell if my info is correct) and I found out he went to the barber in the little building hidden in the public parking lot behind the Worhtington hardware (I never even knew the place existed back there until somebody showed it to me when both my daughters worked at the original "Old Bag o' Nails", carved out of some unused space beside the hardware store). I went there one time just to see if this was true, and as I pulled through that tight little underpass (with the apratments built over the entrnace), I had to go very slow to squeeze by a fancy car coming out. As we passed very sowly I realized it was Clapton driving the car. I went in to the barber shop and asked if this was where he got his hair cut? Three barbers and two patons in the waiting chairs all just looked and me and laughed out loud. No one said a thing, and I could see they were not about to answer my question.

** Some of this story comes from another source, my own older cousin who's best friend is (or was then) a leader of the Columbus chapter of AA. This man related to my cousin that he was at the restuarant that had  replaced the old "Stew Harrisons" on 5th AVE one night and thought the guy at the bar looked a lot like Eric Clapton. He went over to talk to him and overheard Clapton ordering an orange juice. My cousins friend gave him the AA greeting, "Hello, my name is ------, and I am a friend of (do I have this right?) Bill Wilson (or Williams?). Clapton turned and immediately responded with an outstretched hand and "I'm Eric Clapton and I am also a friend of Bill Wilson." they chatted and Clapton exlained that he was in town for the birth. Before parting for the night, Clapton asked he he could join the man in the local AA meetings, which he did on a regular basis and they became friends. This is where I heard the story about Clapton's change of heart. 

I cut this out of the Dispatch about - oh maybe 25 years ago while living in Columbus. Why I saved it or how I still found it is beyond me.

Okay this is beginning to get ridiculous - I cannot get a photo to stick - it was there and now it's gone!!!

Sorry - Ill work on it.


05/20/18 02:14 PM #3198    

 

David Mitchell

Mark,

More on your referene to George Clooney.

Years ago, (while suffereing a momentary lapse of common sense or good taste) I was watching an episode of ET - Entertainment Tonight, whe they did a piece about his roots in Columbus and Cincinnati. His dad (the handsome older host on Turner Classic Movie Channel) had been with Channel 4 (I think?) in Columbus before becoming the manager of WLW (?) in Cincy. They showed a closeup of a class photo from ST. Mike's with a little blonde kid in about 2nd or 3rd grade by the name of George Clooney. The photo also had Father Byrne and your principal, Sister ??? in each corner of the framed photo.


05/20/18 02:45 PM #3199    

 

Fred Clem

Mark,

George went to St. Michael for a short time, just a few years.  His dad, Nick, worked at channel 4 when it was known as WLWC.  He was transferred to channel 5 in Cincinnati which still has the call letters WLWT.  Both stations were part of the Crosley Broadcasting Company.  Later he worked at WKRC as the news anchor, (channel 12, also in Cincy).


05/21/18 11:11 AM #3200    

 

Michael McLeod

If anybody has netflix there is an excellent interview with Clooney done by Dave Letterman as part of his "My Next Guest Needs No Introduction" series - which is, in general, brilliant. As an interviewer myself I am fascinated by how Letterman conducts these things, and his guests and subject matter are never frivilous, always thought-provoking. 


05/21/18 01:34 PM #3201    

 

David Mitchell

I finally got the photo on my post back at #3205 (Eric and Melia) to stick.

 

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And here is a shot from my post about cameras from #3175. Anybody remember one of these around your house?

And here is the second one. It WAS going to be such and interesting post. You WERE all going to be fascinated. Really, you WERE.  (Or maybe not.)

Kodak Duo Flash


05/21/18 02:13 PM #3202    

Timothy Lavelle

How about a story?

For a moment let's play "Where's Waldo". This time he is wearing OD (olive drab) green clothing but he is carrying a conspicuous loaf of bread instead of the black n red striped knit stocking cap.

50 years ago, on 30 January 1968, the North Vietnamese Army responded to a recent dare put forth by the commander of US troops, Gen. Westmoreland. In a move to quiet the unrest in 'Murica, Westy had proclaimed that we were winning the war and, to paraphrase his words, "Just wished the enemy would come out and fight". The response of the other side is known as the TET Offensive and was the beginning of the end which came years later.

I was in military intelligence. The mother of a good childhood friend later  claimed that as the sole reason we lost the war. We secretly listened to the enemy radio communications, broke (some) of their codes and tracked their company, battalion and sometimes regimental movements. Our field station was about the size of 6 football football fields surrounded by high fences and a mine field. Because we all had security clearances we were never allowed to leave. I came even closer than now to going bonkers there.

Back to the action...The enemy's "coms" went totally silent a few days before TET. So we had no real idea what was going on when...don't trust my memory here but I think it was the 27th NVA Regiment that marched into the old imperial capitol of Hue like a fife and drum corps. To say that we got caught with our pants down...take a few minutes for those we lost and go read "TET Offensive" in wikipedia. I was stationed about ten miles outside Hue then and the ensuiing Battle for Hue was a city destroying affair.

After the Marines retook Hue...so easy to write now 50 years later and so very hard for those young men then...all of us desk jockeys wished we could escape our compound and go see. I had a friend named Scott Clark who, even then, could talk anyone into anything. Many months after this Scott convinced our commanding officer that I required an additional R&R or would likely go crazy. He also convinced the man  that he (Scott) would need to chaperone me while "Scott and Tim Do Hong Kong". It worked. He was amazing. BUT I digress, as always.

Scott talked a Navy officer out of his jeep for a few hours. I have never known how. We drove out the front gate, past the star-bunker, turned left on Route One and headed to Hue. We were AWOL and I was somewhere between scared as hell and way excited.

In short order we were at the Perfume River that forms one boundary to Hue. We could not drive across the bridge so we parked and walked across. The city of Hue was maybe the size of Chillicothe with only a very few three or four story buildings...and girls and boys they were shot to shit. We could not see the walled Citadel from there so I can't report on that but I can tell you unequivocally that the Perfume River did not smell like perfume! Everyone we saw looked like they had been thru hell.

On the Hue side of the bridge were a couple of the ubiquitous street vendors. Usually young girls, sitting behind a small glass enclosed case on top of a wheel barrow so they could move from spot to spot...in the case would be packs of cigarettes or warm Coke and these small loaves of bread, maybe 8 inches long looking like abbreviated Italian fare. So I bought a loaf for the ride home.

We were walking back across the bridge to get the jeep and return to captivity when I saw a railroad bridge down river that had been blown up. I wanted to get a picture but in the old days it took two hands to operate a camera so I had to stick that loaf of bread somewhere while I used both arms to hold, focus and shoot.

Let's ascend to 500 feet above this scene. We see on the Hue end of the bridge a small crowd of young and old women pointing at a GI (yer's very truly) and laughing. We see this young man on the bridge, all in green...could this be our Waldo?..intently trying to take a picture.

 Can you find Waldo in the war zone? He's the one on the bridge trying to get the photo while glancing sideways at the laughing women and wondering what is so effing funny. All the while he is trying to take the photo with a shortish loaf of break sticking out from between his legs.

I was 19. It took long seconds for me to figure out what they were laughing at and a single split second to grab the loaf out from between my legs. Even less time to blush crimsone. Funny. I guess we were all young once.

Sorry it is so long. I'll delete it in a few days. I think we need to find and pass along humor when ever we can.


05/21/18 02:35 PM #3203    

 

David Mitchell

Tim,

Please don't delete a single word. This is soooo "Viet Nam". Where war barges in on everyday life - or vice versa. Where horror meets laughter face to face. 

 

(and I fondly recall those same warm cokes and little french baguettes) 


05/21/18 06:38 PM #3204    

 

Michael McLeod

good one, Tim. Leave it be.


05/21/18 10:26 PM #3205    

 

Mark Schweickart

Waldo,  I can just hear those young Vietnamese giggling at you, with one of the girls quipping (in her best Mae West inflection), "Is that a petite baguette, soldier boy, or are you just glad to see me?" You are too funny, my friend. Too funny.


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