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01/20/17 04:45 PM #595    

 

David Mitchell

Now back to our regular programing.

Tim, I like the "The Good, the Bad......   thing, but what if we tweaked it just a bit and used, either "The Good, the Bad and the Monsignior" or maybe "The Good, The Bad, and the Father Arcurri"

Or what about just ---"The Graduate(s)?  If only we still had hollywood legendary make-up artist Patty Nederhoff with us I think she could make Mike Del Bianco look like a pretty good Dusitn Hoffman. I'm sure Mike can do a great job with that memorable line "Plastics?"

 

where is Mike these days- anyone?


01/20/17 07:21 PM #596    

Joseph Gentilini

Where is Mike's article????  I want to read it.  Joe


01/20/17 07:25 PM #597    

 

David Mitchell

Joe, Go back up to post # 591. Janie has left the link at the bottom.


01/20/17 11:31 PM #598    

 

Michael DeTemple

Mike, Thanks for the beautiful, poignant and insightful article.  I am amazed at how you were able to weave so many seemingly disparate things together and reveal how connected they really are.  It was very moving and consoling to me - it gave me hope. 


01/21/17 08:43 AM #599    

Joseph Gentilini

Where can I find a copy to read?????  Joe


01/21/17 08:50 AM #600    

Joseph Gentilini

Thanks David!!!!  It was a good article.  Thanks for letting me find it!!!   Joe


01/21/17 09:53 AM #601    

 

David Mitchell

I stand corrected. Thanks to Fred.

It was Mississippi governor Ross Barnett in the doorway at Ole Miss - not Alabama Governor Wallace.

Now I ask you, how would we ever get through this without Fred?  LOL


01/21/17 10:53 AM #602    

Janie Albright (Blank)

Did anyone mention that Colo passed away last week? I have a great Colo story. They used to dress her in little outfits and once Colleen and I were at the zoo and Colo and Colleen were wearing the same outfit! I gave my required (and dreaded) speech in Mrs Hemmelgarn's 8th grade class about it! 

http://614now.com/2017/news/breaking-colo-worlds-oldest-gorilla-passes-away

 

 


01/21/17 11:09 AM #603    

Janie Albright (Blank)

https://youtu.be/H_L4l7FLd6I

Link to you tube video about Colo and Columbus Zoo  

 


01/21/17 11:34 AM #604    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks to everyone for the compliments about the column. It was quite a long time in the making, oh my goodness how hard I worked on that piece, and not the first story, nor the last, that I have had to write about that terrible attack down here. It was such an awful thing and I have never been in the midst of a traumatized community -- I know the owner of the club, I know people who lost loved ones, I live just a few blocks away from where it happened. I was so happy that I could do something, that all the years I have spent working at become a writer could be put to use to ease the suffering somewhat and give people some consolation and some hope. 


01/21/17 11:37 AM #605    

 

Michael McLeod

oops "becoming" not become. There goes my "A" paper.. 


01/21/17 02:41 PM #606    

 

David Mitchell

 Janie,

I saw the news about COLO. I couldn't help think of a neighbor family that had a daughter about that time and named her Carol. Her brother and sisters nicknmaed her COLO ans so it stuck - we called her that all the time.  I had forgotten how big a' deal that once was until this came up.

 


01/21/17 05:03 PM #607    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

OK, here is a question: from what disease did Colo recover when she was just a youngster?

(Hint: humans also can be affected by this ailment and it made the city in which I live famous from the 1880's to the 1940's.)

01/22/17 12:42 AM #608    

 

David Mitchell

Jim, I've been waiting for years, wondering when you were goint to ask us about which illness that baby gorilla had. Damn, I'm so glad we finally got this out in the open! 

Tuberculosis?

(I was going to say "cough due to code")


01/22/17 02:24 AM #609    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave,

Indeed, it was tuberculosis! In the late '50's and early'60's there was an epidemic of TB among several species of great apes that included those in the Columbus Zoo.

Now, for the TB-Colorado Springs connection:

In the pre-antibiotic era the Springs had the world's highest cure rate for that infection. The city had several sanatoria devoted to those patients alone. Some had individual "huts" which would house one person each. These attracted not only regular Americans but also the rich, the famous and royality from around the globe. Due to its altitude, dry air and 300 days of sunshine per year Colorado Springs was ideal for treating these patients with the regimen of "heliotherapy" - eight hours of sitting in the sunshine - daily (with blankets in the winter) and smoking several Camel cigarettes per day. The cigarette smoke was believed to be tuberculocidal (able to kill the TB germs).

I don't believe any gorillas were among those treated...

Jim

01/22/17 10:26 AM #610    

 

Linda Weiner (Bennett)

Anyone remember the incidences of TB in our class in 62-63? We all had to be tested then. 


01/22/17 12:49 PM #611    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

When I went to the U. of Denver I thought they told us that Denver held that distinction. Either way, Denver also became a haven for the treatment of tuberculosis. As I recall, Denver has 320 days of full sunshine per year. But over time those people needed jobs to get by, and they would take easy, non-physical jobs at reduced pay. This carried over for several generations and resulted in Denver being a low wage city for many years.

* If only Fred had some background in Denver or Colorado Springs history - darn!

But back to Columbus and Watterson - I though maybe we had a couple of diseased gorrillas among some of the pastors and assistant passtors who taught us, and it would appear that there is a more recent outbreak in the Washington D.C. area. Gorillas that is - not tuberculosis.

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Since my Broncos are out I just want to say I hope Aaron Rogers is over his flu. Just had to throw that in.


01/22/17 12:58 PM #612    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Linda,

I don't recall anyone in our class who had ACTIVE TB but I may be wrong. Skin testing ("PPD" test) was done routinely to school aged kids back then. A positive test did not necessarily indicate active disease but rather exposure to TB at sometime in that person's lifetime. It is very possible that some in our class could have tested positive.

Dave,

Much research was done on TB in Denver at U of C med center back in those days and, indeed, Denver was also an epicenter for treating the disease. I believe the Springs was more popular due to it being less crowded and was more of a vacation destination for those coming from out of state and out of country.

Jim

01/22/17 01:01 PM #613    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

Mike, congratulations on your excellent article.  It must be a good feeling to know that others find comfort for their pain through your creativity and talent.

Dave, thanks for reminding me that fried balogna and Spam even existed.  I guess the Mediterranean diet was not a big ticket item in restaurants back then.

Tim, put me down for the road trip! Ok, Dave I will help with the backdrops and I also promise not to let my nephew, a LV law enforcer, know that we will be heading his direction.

 


01/22/17 01:28 PM #614    

 

David Mitchell

Did you guys know that Spam is considered a delicacy in Hawaii? A young brother in law who lived there told me the groceries all have huge displays of it as you enter the stores.

I guess we could say it's Huuuge! 


01/22/17 04:18 PM #615    

 

Linda Weiner (Bennett)

We did in fact have TB diagnosed in at leat 2 cases. Two of my besties from grade school had active cases of TB near the end of one of the school years which I think was1962. One was was very active in sports but that summer had to take a rest the whole summer and not play any sports and I suppose medication was involved. She returned to WHS in the Fall.

The other almost died from it. She had a severe case, having part of both lungs removed. She missed all of Sophomore year. I wonder if she had it for awhile because it seems she was puny in 8th grade. 

I believe the entire school was tested at that time. I'm also thinking maybe school officials and parents were trying to keep this quiet. 

 

 

 


01/22/17 04:44 PM #616    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Linda,

See a private Message Center note on your Classmate Profile.

Jim

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


01/22/17 06:43 PM #617    

 

Michael McLeod

More like a staple than a delicacy on the spam thing, wasn't it,, Dave? I remember seeing it on the menu from greasy spoons on up to better restaurants. but yep. And yuk, I never partook.

I always assumed it was from the WW2 military presence, that spam figured into k-rations and chow-line fare.


01/23/17 11:07 AM #618    

 

Joseph Donahue

Jim/Linda, I was one of those who tested positive in our freshman year. It turns out that my father had TB and was confined to a hospital for 6 months. Jim, I think they were called sanitariums back then weren't they?  


01/23/17 11:10 AM #619    

Janie Albright (Blank)

My mom made delicious homemade scalloped potatoes and ham for dinner however if we didn't have leftover ham she used Spam. It was good. It's what I was familiar with. It didn't carry any stigma for me until much later. 


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