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12/26/25 03:18 PM #16667    

 

David Mitchell

I am replying to part of a post that Jack put on here today but is now gone??????

 

Jack, (to answer your questions)

Dealing with the fear;

We applied heavy doses of sarcasm and humor to deal with our fear. We were all well aware of the risks we were taking but teased one another constantly to overcome the problem. Our own fellow pilots - our Cobra pilots and Huey pilots called us cazy but we just smiled and laughed along with them. I remind people now that I was 20 and some were 22 year olds.

We were (therefore) Invincible!

My 8-man plattoon of "Scout" pilots (more like 14 guys over time as they came and went in my 18 months) was shot down either 21 or 24 times - I had lost count long ago. One of my best buddies was shot down five times. And one of the Scout Pilots in one of our sister companies was shot down three tiems in one day!  (yes, you read that right). We drank our beer in the hooch at night and that night we joked and laughed for an hour or so - "What was he - some sort of slow learner?

There is a book called "Low Level Hell" written by a guy named Hugh Mills. He flew that mision for three years and was shot down sixteen (16) times!!!  

I simply cannot grasp why you would get back in a cockpit that many times!

 

As for fear of going down in the Jungle. We only had one area of the vast "Delta" region that contained real jungle - thick enough to be impossible for a recovery. It was in the far southwest of the "Delta" along the west coast (Gulf of Thailand) area and was only about four or five miles East to West and maybe 50 miles North to South. Added later - It was known as the "U-Minh forrest" and had a horrible history of lost French troops from many years before we arrived. In my approcximate 300+ flying days in my first tour, we only worked that are a handful of days - the risk was just too great. And the day I went down we had gradually worked our way out into a broad open area of rice padddies - with easy access for a Huey to land beside us.

You asked about commendations - I'll find a photo and post here soon. I have a few.

 

 


12/26/25 03:34 PM #16668    

 

David Mitchell

I know I have put this up before but for those who missed it - -

After 7 days travel, I arrived at my unit on Christas Eve Day 1968

The day after Christmas I was invited to join with some guys and fly down the river (20 minuts) to Dong Tam (See that in lower left of the clip) to see the Bob Hope show. Enjoy the whole video but look close at 6:11 on the timer (rightr after Phyliss Diller).

Back in the audience we could see a B-model gunship dip it's nose and fire rockets about an eight of a mile behind the stage - as they took .50 caliber fire from below. I was in that audience!

(those up on the stage couldn't see it as they were under a large band shell )




12/27/25 09:56 AM #16669    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)


12/27/25 10:06 AM #16670    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

As Shakespeare famously said… "the truth will out"

://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Q6AgmJTxi/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

 


12/27/25 03:51 PM #16671    

 

David Mitchell

An old favorite! (wait till 1:40 on the timer)




12/27/25 07:16 PM #16672    

Joseph Gentilini

AH, Mary Margaret, if we are going to support Guiliani whom you call a hero, you support Donald when he condemned John McCain, saying that he was not a hero, adding that the heroes are those who were not captured.

I support the Pope Leo and the US Catholic Bishops who are speaking out against a person  whom you probably think is a hero - Donald. This pope is a hero for speaking the truth against power. Trump and many of his inner coven should be in prison for treason against this country.

Someday the TRUTH will come out and condemn Donald and his administration.


12/27/25 08:26 PM #16673    

 

David Mitchell

Well spoken Joe!


12/28/25 09:05 AM #16674    

 

Michael McLeod

Bears on the loose! I know you don't think of Florida as a famous bear habitat but it is --lotta forest acreage in the central part of the state.
Anyway: Been going over old clips. I've forgotten most of my old articles, but not this one. Promise not to make a habit of subjecting you to my old clips but this story was so goofy I thought I'd make an exception just this once because I think it will amuse you: so.......
 
Here's the result of one of my occasional and often quirky and hopefully entertaining journalistic forays into the backwoods of central florida. As you may know there's a lot more to the state than beaches and that includes some large piney forests, some of which were inhabited.
By people.
and bears.
This story ran in the Orlando Sentinel, where I wrote in various capacities for two decades.
 
UMATILLA — If you take 441 just north of the Mount Dora cutoffs and make a turn to the right, the scenery changes quickly enough to make you wonder if you aren’t a lot farther from home than you thought.
Suddenly the road kills aren’t flattened gray patches but exotic blotches of reptilian yellows and amphibian greens. Suddenly the landmarks aren’t strip malls and subdivisions, but a feed store, a sawmill, a slaughterhouse. Suddenly, although it’s just an hour’s drive from downtown Orlando, you’ve reached a place where the woods are dense, the pastures are misty, the hills are steep -- and there’s a big, hairy monster on the loose.
Wildlife officials can’t catch it. Children are so frightened of it they refuse to walk to their bus stops in the morning. And the goats of Umatilla are afraid. Very afraid.
Since early June, inside a 10-mile radius of rural countryside filled with small farms and secluded homes, a rampaging black bear has attacked and killed dozens of goats, several chickens, one potbellied pig and one sheep. Maybe.
There are enough theories about the attacks to stock a Sasquatch Web site. Wildlife officials think the culprit is probably an adult male bear of about 350 pounds that has migrated here from the Ocala National Forest, just seven densely wooded miles to the northeast, and developed a taste for goats. Locals say it’s the mama bear and two cubs they’ve seen during the past few months, foraging at large trash bins and playing along the wood line. Others contend it’s not a single bear at all, but a pack of them — and they aren’t, by any stretch, newcomers.
“The bears are out there. Lord, of course they’re out there. They’ve always been out there. Why is everybody all of a sudden so surprised?” says Mike Lee.
Lee tends the counter at Lee’s Feed Store on State Road 44, where sacks of feed and small packages of “Equine Edibles” share space with the featured display, a 4-foot-tall stack of WD-40. He wears a camouflage baseball cap and a T-shirt ripped off above the shoulders. Occasionally, when the mood suits him, he comes into the store with his goatee dyed green. He has lived in the area for 15 years and shares the opinion of many longtime residents: The bears haven’t changed. The neighborhood has.
Once, this stretch of northeast Lake County was a farming community. The farmers had cows and horses, animals that are normally too big and too aggressive to fall prey to bear attacks. The farmers had goats, pigs and chickens, too, but if they lost one — to a bear, or, just as likely, a fox — they shrugged it off. Predators were a fact of life, an occupational hazard, like the weather. To a farmer, it would make as much sense to call an electrician to screw in a light bulb as it would to call a game warden about a gutted-out nanny or a pig carried squealing into the woods.
But during the past three or four years, more and more new residents on smaller and smaller properties have appeared in the area.
“I remember, when I first came here 12 years ago, if I heard heavy footsteps on the other side of my fences, I knew it was bears,” says Wayne Lively, who lives in the area where the slew of attacks has been reported.
In those days, he could stand on his property, look around, and not see a single neighboring home.
These days, he sees 20.
Some of Lively’s new neighbors have built elaborate lakeside estates. But others wanted modest homes on 10-acre parcels in the woods, just big enough to support a small menagerie of chickens, rabbits, pigs — and goats.
From one perspective, it’s a petting zoo.
From another, it’s a buffet line.
Two emus stand watch over the gate in front of Eric and Vellissa Kleinbach’s 20-acre wooded spread off Calhoun Road. Ducks chase each other across their front yard, past a neatly groomed pen shared by a pig and three piglets. The couple saved for years and looked at more than 50 properties in the area before settling on this one, which they share with their son and their daughter — Barron, 10, and Grace, 6.
It’s a weekday morning, and the family is still settling into the routine of a new school year. Barron is looking for his backpack, Grace can’t find her shoes -- and Eric, a former Marine who now works as a landscaper, is setting off to check the pasture for casualties.
Five times during the past month, a bear has attacked the Kleinbachs’ small herd of goats, wounding one, killing 10 — including Perdy, Grace’s pet, named after Pongo’s mate in 101 Dalmatians.
Kleinbach leads the way through the woods, still cool and damp from the night, to a broad, luminous pasture, bright in the morning sun. A half-dozen goats cluster by a fence line. They’re all fine. Kleinbach switches directions and heads across the high grass, still wet from the dew, toward a shaded corner where a 4-foot wire fence cuts through the trees.
The bear has been here, though you have to look closely to tell.
There’s a tuft of hair — black and brown strands, about 3 inches long, dangling from the cross-hatched wire of the fence. There are scratch marks on the tree where the bear hung on for leverage as it came across, and a 2-foot section of the fence that has been bent across the top.
Kleinbach points to a place, just on the other side of the fence, where two strong saplings stand about 5 feet apart. A small gray cable is just visible at the base of one of the trees. “That’s where they set the snare,” he says. “Obviously, we didn’t get lucky last night.”
Obviously. The snare, set by wildlife biologists the day before, is just the latest futile effort to try to capture the culprit bear.
“Our big problem is that this bear roams around so much. It’s hard to catch up,” says Florida state biologist Mark Asleson. Besides the snares, Asleson has set out culvert-style traps at several of the properties where the bear has taken goats. The contraptions, which look like oversized metal drain pipes, have been stuffed with everything from dead goats to doughnuts to try to lure the bear.
“I don’t think this bear is interested in doughnuts,” says Steve Bishop. “I’ve got a neighbor who says they must be out to catch a patrolman or a truck driver if they’re using bait like that.”
Amid all the speculation and rhetoric that has accompanied the bear attacks, Bishop, volleyball coach at Lake Sumter Community College, is a rarity: an eyewitness.
Eight days ago, on a Saturday morning, he awoke to find that one of the sheep on his property on Lake County Road 439, where many of the bear attacks have occurred, had been killed in the night. He says he called a state game commission hotline to report the attack and was told someone would get in touch with him on Monday.
“I said to him: ‘What, you think the bears take the weekend off?’ “
He decided to leave the sheep carcass out to see if the bear would return for it when darkness fell. Sure enough, it did. Bishop watched from a safe distance and saw what he describes as “a big old boy, just a regular black bear, probably about 36 inches high when he was standing on all fours. When I yelled and ran at him, he dropped the sheep and took off over the fence.”
If and when the problem bear is captured, biologists will probably release it in the Ocala National Forest. Bears are listed as a threatened species in Florida, and a hunter or homeowner who kills one in anything but a life-threatening situation risks a heavy fine and a jail term.
Last May, a 50-year-old schoolteacher was attacked, killed and partially eaten in Great Smoky Mountain National Park by two female black bears, a 112-pound adult and a 40-pound yearling. It was the first recorded killing of a human by a black bear in the southeastern United States.
There is no record of any human ever being attacked by a black bear in Florida. That is no consolation whatsoever to Vellissa Kleinbach.
“I’m not interested in setting any records here,” she says. “Goats are one thing. But if that bear is getting accustomed to human beings, I’m afraid for my children.”
She says that Barron and Grace used to enjoy walking down a shaded dirt path to the highway to catch the bus to school. Now she drives them. Last week, Barron came running into the house, screaming: He’d heard a chain saw in the distance, and mistook it for a roaring bear.
“I suppose this sounds funny, but we came here from Miami,” says Kleinbach. “We thought it would be safer here.”

12/28/25 09:14 AM #16675    

 

Michael McLeod

good on ya, Joe!


12/28/25 02:57 PM #16676    

 

John Jackson

MM, a minor clerical error does not invalidate votes and change the 2020 election.  Brad Raffensberger, the Georgia Secretary of State (who is responsible for certifying election results) quoted in the article below (from Newsweek), is a Republican: 

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has said a "clerical error" in the state does not "erase valid, legal votes," responding to renewed scrutiny of Georgia’s 2020 election results, which former President Donald Trump has repeatedly and falsely claimed was "stolen" from him.

And from Yahoo:

Are 315,000 unsigned early votes in Fulton County, Georgia proof of electoral fraud? No, that's not true: The Georgia secretary of state told Lead Stories that the missing signatures on tabulator results were the consequence of a clerical error and did not invalidate legally cast votes. An election expert told Lead Stories that the minor administrative error did not affect the final results of the election, as shown by multiple recounts of all ballots in Georgia.

And Rudy Giuliani will always be Crazy Uncle Rudy, not a patriot, to me.

 


12/28/25 04:07 PM #16677    

 

David Mitchell

Mary Margaret,

I your ealier post #16672, you played an old outdated video that has long since been completley debunked as a series of lies. 

I am confused as to why you would try to resurrect an old story that has long since been proven false.

Roger Stone was found guilty of obstruction of a congressional investigation, five counts of making false statements to Congress, and tampering with a witness. He was convicted and sentenced, only to have his sentence commuted by his buddy Donald Trump. 


12/28/25 07:36 PM #16678    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Believe what you want guys.

 


12/29/25 10:01 AM #16679    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

More truths

Ohio attorney Mehek Cooke CONFIRMS MASSIVE fraud in Ohio, another hotbed for Somalis

They run fake "home health" and bill $250,000 PER YEAR, per FAMILY, when no work is actually being done

She says it also happens in PENNSYLVANIA

"Audit America. Audit Ohio now. And I'm pushing for that in every single state!"

"The state will, as long as the doctor has approved it, continue to pay you. It could be for 10 hours, 12 hours, up to 24 when it's critical care."

"So you could sit at home without caring for an elderly parent who really doesn't need it, make about $75,000 to $90,000 a year. Now you add two parents, that's $180,000. Now you add your in-laws $250,000."

"You continue to add this and you wonder what are the services being provided? So a lot of providers came and said fraud is occurring because we said we weren't going to rubber stamp this paperwork."

"So they went to other providers, their home health care networks saying we'll make it worth your while. Well, sounds like a kickback to me."

"So we really need to investigate the Medicaid system and how much it's increased since the Somalian population came and who really needs critical care because that's meant for our disabled, our elderly and people who really need it, not to just live off our system."

"And that's what's happening in Ohio. I think it's ridiculous. I think it's despicable, but authorities are now looking at it from the Attorney General's office to the U.S. Attorney's office."

"I flagged them all because this is Ohio tax dollars and we have to take it seriously. I'm tired of people telling me, well, this is the way it's always been. It's subjective and we can't really check. No, you can."

Follow what is happening in Minnesota..... https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2004642794862961123?s=20


12/29/25 01:50 PM #16680    

Joseph Gentilini

MM, I also am against fraud of any kind. At the same time, however, Christ rejected no one and told all of us how we will be judged - how we treat each other.  When I look at our country and the present administration, I think God will judge America harshly on how we are treating the immigrants, deporting many that have committed no crimes and sending them to torture prisons in other countries. This is immoral in its core.

 


12/29/25 02:09 PM #16681    

 

David Mitchell

M/M,

Now I am really confused.

"More Truths"

Your recent post is about a current, ongoing, and probably true investigation. But with your headine "More Truths", you seem to be using it as further verification of the earlier, outdated, and untrue post with Roger Stone spouting lies.

There is no correlation between the two whatsoever.

Your recent post does not validate your claim in the first one at all. 


12/29/25 02:21 PM #16682    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Joe,  I hope you will consider the rationale presented in this article on what the Church has historically said about immigration/migration. 

https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/when-welcome-collides-with-caesar-dilexi-te-and-the-missing-question

The Church may and must remind believers of the moral dignity of every person. But she cannot call Catholics to actions that imply contempt for lawful authority, nor can she treat the existence of sovereign states as a regrettable accident of history. If Rome wishes to speak credibly about migration, it must do so in full awareness that the world of Abraham and Moses is not the world of passports, borders, and visas—and that Catholics, while bound by charity, are also citizens. Between God and Caesar, the Exhortation seems to have forgotten that both still have legitimate claims upon us.

What do you say to this report? 
 

https://x.com/natefriedman97/status/2005400239956799545?s=46


12/29/25 05:36 PM #16683    

 

John Jackson

MM, I'm totally unimpressed by posts by random dudes on Elon Musk's X - on social media you can find posts to support any view you hold including really wild and crazy stuff.  I'd be much more impressed if you used legitimate journalistic sources that have track records on reporting responsibly.

And even if this post is perfectly accurate - so what?   Does this prove that many/most programs to aid migrants are corrupt?

 

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12/29/25 07:19 PM #16684    

 

John Jackson

MM, you’re talking about chump change - any comment on the largest Medicare fraud in history ($1.7 billion with a “B”)  perpetrated by Florida Republican Senator Rick Scott when he was CEO of HCA?

Federal investigators found that under Scott's leadership, Columbia/HCA systematically defrauded federal healthcare programs through various illegal practices:

  • Billing for unnecessary tests or services not ordered by doctors.
  • Falsifying diagnosis codes to increase government reimbursements.
  • Claiming non-reimbursable marketing costs as community education expenses.
  • Giving doctors financial incentives and kickbacks, such as free rent, free drugs, and "loans" that were never intended to be repaid, in exchange for patient referrals, which is a violation of federal law

https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2003/June/03_civ_386.htm


12/29/25 07:28 PM #16685    

 

John Jackson

MM, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones - how about our Grifter in Chief enriching Trump family cryptocurrency and other business interests?  We’ve never seen corruption remotely so open, so blatant, and so massive from a president who claims to represent the little guy.

Here's one article but there are a dozen more like it:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/the-year-in-trump-cashing-in

I'm tempted to say that if you ask for the definition of "grift' Tump's picture will come up, but, sadly, we'll have to wait for the next Merriam Webster edition.


12/29/25 10:01 PM #16686    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Thankfully, I stand by my views on these various topics and am not out to "impress" anyone. By the way many of the "random dudes" on X are graduates of the Left's precious Ivy League schools. Musk unlocked free speech on the internet and forced other social media platforms to do the same or lose viewership. News is now able to be released to millions uncensored from the scene vs going through MSM newsrooms. Fake news is accountable by we the people. 


12/29/25 11:44 PM #16687    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

One of the editorials in today's Wall Stereet Journal "MAGA's Latest Stolen 2020 Election Theory" is a must read.  The last paragraph states a summation: "Mr. Trump will never admit his 2020 claims were partisan nonsense.  But Republicans who care about the future could do their man a favor by refusig to keep indulging them."

I noticed the writer said Mr. Trump and not president.

 

 


12/30/25 12:31 PM #16688    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks for the clip, Joe, and lol with the "mr.trump" detail. 

says it all in a nutshell.


12/30/25 02:09 PM #16689    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2006039287377121764?s=46

https://x.com/realmuckraker/status/2005828188010684545?s=46


12/30/25 03:51 PM #16690    

 

David Mitchell

Remembering a Strange Christmas

That evening, (about Dec 16th) after being shot down (added later) hours before - just two days before the end of my first tour (I had "extended" and already knew I would be returning), I had a funny scene take place at the officer's club.

I walked in to the bar section of the "O Club" (opposite the dinning room section) and found a small group of my Troop having a drink with our CO, Major Bill Rittenhouse, a guy we all liked very much.

Before I could order my own beer, someone handed me a glass, exclaiming that I deserved it after a "rough day at the office". As I began to take my first sip, Major Rittenhouse came at me and got in my face like a drill sergeant.

(Yelling in my face) - "Mr. Mitchell  (that odd way of addressing a Warrant Officer), I am ordering you to stand down (not fly) tomorrow. On my orders you will be grounded until the day after tomorrow, at which time you will board a C-123 or C-130, en route to Long Binh (near Saigon), where you will connect with your flight to Travis Air Force Base in California, USA!"

The guys all burst into a loud cheer and we all drank a big gulp. 

(An earlier photo of Major Rittenhouse handing me my promotion papers from WO-1 to CW-2)

T B C


12/30/25 06:04 PM #16691    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

So as to not hold this message forum hostage to political truths unfolding, there is more to be said & so I will continue posting news over on the User Forum. Be sure to check it out to learn more about the Democrat rationale for their open border policy to flood key states like Minnesota, Ohio, Michigan & Virginia with immigrant voters. 


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