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05/04/25 08:08 PM #15567    

 

David Mitchell

Why this song comes to mind right now I have no idea.

I just watched an old favorite movie (not a "great" film - but a good one) - Horse Whisperers - a few days ago and remembered how much I love this song.



 


05/04/25 08:21 PM #15568    

 

Michael McLeod

Tim; I appreciate your spelled-out thoughtfulness and boy do i relate at trying to clarify clunkiness I regretted. I'm well aware of the head-scratching self-expression workout involved so when I see anybody struggled to refine and reclaim words on a page my own begraggled mental muscles ache on the other writer's behalf. Plus I get charged up when I see folks delve into the kind of social pressures and day to day figuring it all out challenges 'cause it makes me feel a little less lonely about trying to make a living by making sense on the page all these years. 

Guess I could have just said: hey, don't go away. I can't speak for others but i don't thinkyou came off as bad as you think you did.


05/04/25 08:41 PM #15569    

 

David Mitchell

Back to an episode in one of my earlier chapters. Traveling from home to begin Basic training at scenic Fort Polk ("fote poke") Louisiana. Like the rest of you, I grew up in an all-white neighborhood and went to all-white schools - until I made one Black friend at college.

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A few days into January, (1968) the same four of us - including (new buddy) Mike Lee, all met down at Fort Hayes and were driven out to Port Columbus Airport. We were handed our airline tickets to Shreveport Louisiana, connecting through Atlanta, as well as an envelope containing our military orders”. We were allowed only a small gym bag with toilet kit and change of underwear. We boarded a Delta flight for Atlanta, to connect on to Shreveport. From Shreveport we would be bussed to Fort Polk, Louisiana where we would begin to enjoy the “delights” of basic training. 

 

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My Intro To the “South”.

We arrived at Shreveport Airport and boarded the shuttle to the bus station, where we would catch another bus to Leesville, Louisiana and the nearby Fort Polk compound. Here, in the large bus station lobby I experienced a sort of Welcome to the Real South” shock. 

As we sat in the large lobby, with large, ornate wooden benches, I noticed an odd, painted set of lines (two black lines on either side of a white line - about 6 inches total width) that ran all the way across the middle of the lobby floor and part way up the two opposite walls. I gave it little thought.              

But I did become curious as to why there was an open, clean refreshment counter on one side of the room, and a fly-infested rolling cart with snacks on the opposite side of that same lobby. There simply weren’t that many people there. The lobby was not that large. I was puzzled. 

After a while I needed to go to the mens room and got up and headed toward the door under a sign that read TOILETS”. As I began to walk toward it, an older Black man seated in the next row of benches gently reached out his arm to restrain me. “No, son - over there.” As he pointed to the neatly printed signs on the opposite wall that read MENS” and LADIES”. After a moment it dawned on me. I had crossed the line - literally - the striped line. There was a side of the lobby for Whites, and a side for Blacks - seating, food, and rest rooms. The realization hit me like a brick. I was absolutely stunned with embarrassment! 

Welcome to the South, white boy. 

 


05/05/25 10:24 AM #15570    

 

Michael McLeod

good stuff dave. that was one of those golden moments that encapsulated so much about crazy-ass cultural broadening experiences for dudes of our era and others.

i remember hearing the phrase "travel is broadening" many years ago. sounds la-tee-dah.has an old-fashioned tinge to it. though it didn't feel that way at the time, military service provides it for you and also for me just as surely as all those shots in the butt the docs gave us in boot camp to protect us from berie berie and whatever

i remember fearing being drafted  but it was one of the best things that ever happened to me.

In the end for all my whining back then the gi bill paid my way for a post grad degree that led to a rich and rewarding teaching writing career, paid for the birth of my daughter,woke me up to the world at large and opened many doors and windows for a scared and sheltered clintonville nerd. being drafted was the gift of a lifetime for me.  i didn't know how lucky i was to get that "grow-up-mister!" shot in the butt along with all the other innoculations we got in boot camp.

true for me and for countless other dudes of our generation.

so says a grateful old fart.


05/05/25 12:30 PM #15571    

 

Michael McLeod

give yourself up to a few moments of sublimity. Or maybe sublimeness. I'm going to have to check the dictionary to see if I made either one or both of those words up. 

i saw it live more than once, back in the day. ask me to name the mostimportant rock bands/performers of my lifetime this one, bruce springsteen, would rank right up there with the beatles and the stones. though something tells me it's a dude thing.

i have no idea how many of us tune in to this wavelength - so few of us post about music here so i have no data to go by - which makes me blue.

but if i only connect to a tiny handful it's worth the try

you either get him or you don't. either way he's "the boss." that's his nickname. if you ever saw him live you'd know why. 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zVE9hCecu8

 

 


05/05/25 12:55 PM #15572    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

Your reference to Springsteen reminds me of a fun incident years ago.

We were living in Denver and my duaghter Sara won a prize for selling the most candy in a fund drive at her Catholic school - Most Precious Blood Catholic school - gotta love it.  

She was in about 4th grade and the prize was 2 tickets to an upcoming Bruce Springsteen concert out at old "Mile-High Stadium".  Her young Uncle agreed to go with her since I wanted nothing to do with it and she couldn't go without an adult. But it snowed (late spring in the Rockies) and they switched to the next night. Her uncle Brian could not go that next night, so she asked if she could go with her best frind - a classmate?

I said no way could I let 2 fourth grade girls be out in that stadium alone - with 76,000 fans - at night. So I had to take her. I was not thrilled. But we went together and as it turned out, we had a blast. The whole crowd stood and rocked throughout the entire concert - and so did we.

I could not hear for three days after but Sara was elated that we were able to go.

 


05/05/25 12:58 PM #15573    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Dave you weren't the only one who saw signs in the Good Ole Boy South.  Mind you, there was and still is a very large part of that population that abhors the Good Ole Boy atttitude regards race relations.

After my first assignment to a ship in Norfolf, VA I was transferred to a  duty command "Cruiser estroyer Command Six in Charleston, SC.  When I had a nite off I would go into Charleston to have a good dinner and stop at one of the "Music Hall" / bars. 

Around the area were some parks with toilets and drinking fountains.  They were all labeled clearly as "Whites Only" and "Colored".  There were also signs in the Grass "No Sailors or Dogs.

 

 


05/05/25 08:30 PM #15574    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

I wood fix it if I knew ware you where you were referring to. 

You damn English Magers!

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found it - done


05/06/25 11:06 AM #15575    

 

Mark Schweickart

Has anyone given any thought to a reunion next year to celebrate our 60th? Will there be geezer basketball in the gym? 


05/06/25 06:06 PM #15576    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks to those of you who sent me condolences over the loss of my sister, Ellen.

She was an energetic, loving woman. I wish I'd spent more time with her.


05/06/25 09:09 PM #15577    

 

David Mitchell

There appears to be a post from John Jackson that is not showing on this Forum page.

Is it just me?


05/07/25 10:13 AM #15578    

 

John Jackson

Dave, you're not losing your marbles -  I posted something about the mess at Newark Airport but then deleted it because I thought it wouldn't be of that much interest (I think I'm the only NJ resident in the Class of 66).


05/07/25 12:35 PM #15579    

 

David Mitchell

John,

It sounds like quite a mess!


05/07/25 12:40 PM #15580    

 

Michael McLeod

or lordie i'm sure a lot of us have a story or two about coming in and out of nerk. had a few unplanned overnighters back in the day when the job called for travel to nyc.  i can only imagine the bedlam.


05/07/25 01:10 PM #15581    

 

Michael McLeod

gotta say you were a bit harsh with mm tim. i disagree with her often but she has a right to speak her mind. 

and when i said "a bit" i meant yes, a part of me appreciated what you said. 

the better part of me made me post this -- I don't know what to call it. I'll have to consult with the better part of me to figure it out. And i HATE talking to the better part of me. I make faces and pass gas vehemently when he talks to me.


05/07/25 01:29 PM #15582    

 

John Jackson

Mike M, you’re a terrible handicapper – your pick, Pierbattista Pizzaballa, is a distant fifth according to the papal betting odds:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/novelty/next-pope-odds-favorites-2025/

Do yourself a favor and stay away from Hialeah...


05/07/25 06:28 PM #15583    

 

Michael McLeod

Ok john fine go ahead. poo-poo my pick and persecute me for being prescient in predicting that peirbatista pizzaballa prevails to pontificate after pope pretenders with pimpier names have plopped.

ps:

there is a new nightclub down here in florida and its name, i kid you not, is: 

"Good Night, John Boy."

Something tells me it will be the most wholesome nightspot in town.

 


05/07/25 07:33 PM #15584    

 

David Mitchell

I am a self admitted YouTube addict - mostly about music.

I think my favorite discovery over the last few years is young Irish street "Busker" Allie Sherlock.

This video is about 7 years old - she started at about age 11 (her dad goes with her) and has gown into an attractive young woman of about 19 (I think). She sings all kinds of "Pop" music on the streets of Dublin and does a lot of duets - sometimes with guys who just pop up out of nowhere to sing with her. 

I'll add a later one after this - you can stand two of them I think.




05/07/25 07:38 PM #15585    

 

David Mitchell

Thisis a fun one - she starts and realizes the original artist is in the crowd.




05/07/25 09:14 PM #15586    

 

John Jackson

Dave - I enjoyed the videos – a lot of talent at a young age. She’s singing on Grafton Street in Central Dublin, always alive with buskers.  Here’s another famous Irish song about another Dublin street, Raglan Road, that mentions Grafton Street.  It’s about unrequited love (no surprise) and there are many, many versions including Van Morrison, Ed Sheeran, Mark Knopfler, and Sinead O’Connor, but this is my favorite.  The cellist is Caroline Lavelle, a relative of one of our classmates?

Apologies if I’ve posted this before. 


05/07/25 09:16 PM #15587    

 

John Jackson

Mike, I postulate that your preternatural predilection for potential pontiff Pierbattista Pizzaballa will prove preposterous posthaste.


05/07/25 09:19 PM #15588    

 

Michael McLeod

Thanks, John, for a perfect example of the patently predictable, pretentious and puerile posts a pre-pubescent punkass putz such as you would produce.


05/07/25 09:55 PM #15589    

 

David Mitchell

God help us!


05/07/25 10:51 PM #15590    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Time for intermission.

By now many of you have heard that a Kentucky woman's 8-year-old son ordered 70,000 Dum-Dums (lollipops) from Amazon.  Amazon has now agreed to forgive the Debt.

Now comes the hard part.  Yes, forgiveness of debt is taxable.  The mother is required to include the total forgiven amount as taxable income when filing her taxes next year.

Congress made that rule / law and the IRS, and probably Kentucky, must follow the law.

I'm just the messenger.

 


05/08/25 07:51 AM #15591    

 

Michael McLeod

guess you could say that woman with all the dum dums was dumstruck.

that or dumfounded.

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