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09/20/20 05:55 PM #8094    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Joe, 

Thanks for that info. A bit scary and disappointing but good to know.

Jim 


09/21/20 01:42 PM #8095    

 

Michael McLeod

Just another example of fake news, Jim. 


09/21/20 01:52 PM #8096    

 

Michael McLeod

Well I am teaching a writing class virtually this term and I tend to complain about having to learn web-ex stuff - as in: if you miss one step, you're screwed. That's apart from not having the fun of being face to face with students.

But given the fact that one of those students just messaged me that he has covid19, I think I'll stop complaining.

And hearing about the far more taxing difficulties of my girlfriend, who teaches elementary education at a montessori magnet school, puts my own issues in context.

She's not just wrangling students but misbehaving and/or underprivileged parents through a whole new ballgame as she adjusts to the virtual teaching game.

Meanwhile her absolutely brilliant daughter, who barely got out of Beijing, where she was an executive with a Chinese corporating that teaches English to Chinese children on line, is going through PTSD as a result of her experiences during the Chinese lockdown to contend with the virus. People in the US who complain about what we've gone through have no idea about what it's like to live through it in a totalitarian regime. Like everyone else in that city her every move was tracked and recorded. She was stopped on the street a half dozen times in the space of a block. Nothing wrong with it under the circumstances; by isolating neighborhoods and people and restricting their movements they were far more effective than we have been in shutting down the disease (and their researchers, by the way, provided doctors all over the world with the virus' genome so they could begin working on a vaccine.). Anyway the Chinese people are accustomed to living in an authoritarian system - where they are outcasts if they don't exercise regularly and where, if, say, they get caught criticizing anything about the government, they have to publicly apologize - an apology that is not even written out in their own words but a government-authorized, one-size-fits-all template, written out for them, word for word.

So imagine an American who'd been living within that system at a privileged distance suddenly being in the same stew, by virtue of the emergency situation - having all her otherness as an American citizen stripped away while being frightened to death in the middle of a mysterious disease in a foreign land and having to contend with that fear and the full blast of that authoritarian mind set.

Forgive me for going on about this but it's my way of understanding what she is going through. And this is also part of the reason why, like John, I tend to focus in on and get riled by the mask business and the selfish blowhards who object to it on grotesque misconceptions about the privilege of living in a democracy. They should be pretty damn grateful they have the freedom to make selfish and/or pompous asses out of themselves.

Ok I'm chill now.

 


09/22/20 12:59 PM #8097    

Timothy Lavelle

I remember that within months of completing military service, I had divided my life into "those who smoke dope, and the others". A really immature and honestly, stupid, decision. 

But there was an earlier decision in my life that was equally immature, since that choice was made when I was 5 years old. But I've felt the force of that choice my whole life. It came about when we played with guns! We shot the hell out of everyone with just our index finger and thumb and made those "pschewww, pscheww" sounds as we blasted our foes. There was included in those epic bsttles, an early social contract. Each side would be fare. It was an unspoken agreement but to a small child it meant that you had to "take your deads". If you were shot at close range you had to die (heroically) right there...maybe a few staggering steps if you were a real drama queen. If you said some cheating thing like "You missed me" and didn't fall down, you were a capital C cheater. A terrible thing to be at five.

What I discovered then and didn't really understand until years later was that there are people who will cheat and it doesn't really bother them.  Fairness is a mistaken...a chump's trait to some. They have excuse after excuse for their falseness, but when you break it down it comes out "I just didn't want to take my deads ". 

I feel like we have grown up in a "It's okay to cheat just a little" to get ahead time period. Cheating shows you are sincere about trying to make it to too many. Feels like we are reaping the rewards of that philosophy. 

Rainy but clear with threats of great cheating in the forecast.

   


09/22/20 02:19 PM #8098    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Forget about politics, the bears are fattening up for a long winter's sleep!

Two days ago I found some bear scat in our side yard. It was full of pine cone debris. Squirrels peel the coverings off the green Ponderosa Pine cones and eat the fleshy middle, leaving the coverings and stripped pine cones in piles under the trees. There are lots of these things in the late summer and early fall lying around. I usually rake them up in late autumn.

I positioned my Critter Cam last night facing where I found the scat. Bears are creatures of habit and usually return to the same area if food is available. This usually occurs at night.

Gotcha!

 

Jim


09/22/20 02:27 PM #8099    

 

Daniel Cody

Jim  

 So much for your version of "build the wall"

 


09/22/20 02:28 PM #8100    

 

David Mitchell

Tim,

Thank you - after all this time, I finally know how to spell "pschew".

What a timely memory. I never realized other kids used the same phrase - "taking your deads". I had a chuckle when I read that. I used to love to perform some of the world's most dramatic falls when Mike Justus or David Wall would nail me as I tried to make it from behind the corner of the house to that nearby old beach tree. I considered it a form of high artistic dance to stagger and twirl, and then finally drop - in the most awkward landing position I could imagine.

(BTW, I had a gunbelt with a pair of Mattell "Fanner 50's", so I was a a force to be reckoned with)

 

Speaking of index-finger guns. We have all heard the phrase "Guns don't kill people - people do". To which I reply, "Yes, but those nasty little bullets sure do a lot of damage. And how many people do you think I could kill with my finger pointed at you while my thumb closes forward and I say "pschew"? 

 

I am afraid those cheaters grew up and are still amonst us.


09/22/20 02:48 PM #8101    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dan C., 

That is my neighbor's new fence. Our yard has open borders to wildlife 😁🐻!

Jim

 

 


09/22/20 06:26 PM #8102    

 

Mark Schweickart

Tim's recollection of the importance of decisions made at age five regarding the rules of war, and how certain moral choices stick with you, reminds me of the scenes in Oliver Stone's film Born on the 4th of July, where we see a similar depiction of child's pschew-pschew play foreshadow adult realities.

And speaking of films, has anyone taken me up on my recommendation to watch the NetFlix release of Charlie Kaufman's new film, I'm Thinking of Ending Things ? If so, and if you need a little help deciphering this quite wonderful (in my opinion) psychological romp, I wanted to let you know that I took it upon myself to write up an analysis of this double-meaning mind-bender, and I would be happy to send you a copy.

Unfortunately, there is a lot to unpack in this film, so it took me 11 pages to work my way through it. But if the length doesn't scare you, send me an email – sparto@ca.rr.com.

And if the length does put you off, I guess I wouldn't be surprised, but let me just say, watch the film anyway. It is quite a delightful challenge.

 


09/23/20 08:45 AM #8103    

 

Michael McLeod

excellent vaccine news.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/23/coronavirus-vaccine-jj-single-shot/

 

the post has taken down its pay wall on crucial covid news.

 

 


09/23/20 01:42 PM #8104    

Timothy Lavelle

Not sure how it is near you but we have found that getting flu shots here is not like previous years. We have to make appointments with our medical provider this year to get shots...versus years past, walking in almost anywhere and getting stuck. 

If you are considering a flu shot, maybe make those plans early rather than late. 

 


09/23/20 02:36 PM #8105    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Tim,  

We get our flu shots yearly at our local Walgreens. I believe CVS also has them. Supermarkets which have pharmacies usually give them. I doubt Mossy Rock has large chains like those but there may be some within a reasonable drive of your town. In most cases they are essentially free through Medicare and/or other insurance and a prescription and appointment are not usually required. 

Jim 


09/23/20 02:49 PM #8106    

 

Michael McLeod

From The Atlantic.

Wouldn't this just top off this already craptastic year?

 

There is a cohort of close observers of our presidential elections, scholars and lawyers and political strategists, who find themselves in the uneasy position of intelligence analysts in the months before 9/11. As November 3 approaches, their screens are blinking red, alight with warnings that the political system does not know how to absorb. They see the obvious signs that we all see, but they also know subtle things that most of us do not. Something dangerous has hove into view, and the nation is lurching into its path.

 

The danger is not merely that the 2020 election will bring discord. Those who fear something worse take turbulence and controversy for granted. The coronavirus pandemic, a reckless incumbent, a deluge of mail-in ballots, a vandalized Postal Service, a resurgent effort to suppress votes, and a trainload of lawsuits are bearing down on the nation’s creaky electoral machinery.

Something has to give, and many things will, when the time comes for casting, canvassing, and certifying the ballots. Anything is possible, including a landslide that leaves no doubt on Election Night. But even if one side takes a commanding early lead, tabulation and litigation of the “overtime count”—millions of mail-in and provisional ballots—could keep the outcome unsettled for days or weeks.

If we are lucky, this fraught and dysfunctional election cycle will reach a conventional stopping point in time to meet crucial deadlines in December and January. The contest will be decided with sufficient authority that the losing candidate will be forced to yield. Collectively we will have made our choice—a messy one, no doubt, but clear enough to arm the president-elect with a mandate to govern.

As a nation, we have never failed to clear that bar. But in this election year of plague and recession and catastrophized politics, the mechanisms of decision are at meaningful risk of breaking down. Close students of election law and procedure are warning that conditions are ripe for a constitutional crisis that would leave the nation without an authoritative result. We have no fail-safe against that calamity. Thus the blinking red lights.

“We could well see a protracted postelection struggle in the courts and the streets if the results are close,” says Richard L. Hasen, a professor at the UC Irvine School of Law and the author of a recent book called Election Meltdown. “The kind of election meltdown we could see would be much worse than 2000’s Bush v. Gore case.”

lot of peopleincluding Joe Biden, the Democratic Party nominee, have mis­conceived the nature of the threat. They frame it as a concern, unthinkable for presidents past, that Trump might refuse to vacate the Oval Office if he loses. They generally conclude, as Biden has, that in that event the proper authorities “will escort him from the White House with great dispatch.”

The worst case, however, is not that Trump rejects the election outcome. The worst case is that he uses his power to prevent a decisive outcome against him. If Trump sheds all restraint, and if his Republican allies play the parts he assigns them, he could obstruct the emergence of a legally unambiguous victory for Biden in the Electoral College and then in Congress. He could prevent the formation of consensus about whether there is any outcome at all. He could seize on that un­certainty to hold on to power.

Trump’s state and national legal teams are already laying the groundwork for postelection maneuvers that would circumvent the results of the vote count in battleground states. Ambiguities in the Constitution and logic bombs in the Electoral Count Act make it possible to extend the dispute all the way to Inauguration Day, which would bring the nation to a precipice. The Twentieth Amendment is crystal clear that the president’s term in office “shall end” at noon on January 20, but two men could show up to be sworn in. One of them would arrive with all the tools and power of the presidency already in hand.


09/23/20 03:34 PM #8107    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

A recent New York Times piece about the presidential election reads more like an article in The Onion or Babylon Bee. It claims that “President Trump’s litigiousness and unfounded claims of fraud have increased the likelihood of epic postelection court fights.”

 

The president’s “litigiousness”?! In state after state, almost all the lawsuits filed over this year’s elections have been filed by Democrats and liberal or progressive organizations, seeking to change election rules by judicial fiat. Their objective: force all-mail elections or huge increases in absentee balloting while simultaneously eliminating safeguards against abuse and fraud.

 

The Times top brass must not have read their own reporters’ story very carefully. That story cites law professor Richard Pildes’s count of at least 160 lawsuits filed by “party organizations, campaigns and interest groups,” noting that the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee “are involved” in only 40, “some in response to Democratic lawsuits.” For those familiar with basic arithmetic, the “litigiousness” is on the other side of the political aisle. Perhaps the Times didn’t bother to do the math.

 

The Times is right, though, when it says that the possibility of litigation after this November’s election may make the 2000 fight in Florida “look like a high school student council election” in comparison. But given what has occurred so far, if we have contentious court fights, it is far more likely that they will be initiated by Democrats attempting to game the system, not Republicans.

 

The nature of the hundred-plus lawsuits filed by Democrats and these organizations make that clear. All of those lawsuits (and the COVID-19 response bills filed in the House by Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats) have similar goals that will give these political actors the ability to game the system. This would be true of any actors trying to change the rules in this manner mid-game. They are trying to force states to mail absentee ballots to all registered voters, despite the known inaccuracies of state voter rolls. At the same time, they are trying to

  • get rid of voter ID and witness signature or notarization requirements for absentee ballots;
  • override state deadlines for absentee ballots to be either returned or postmarked by Election Day;
  • void state laws banning vote harvesting by third parties;
  • stop or erode signature comparison procedures; and
  • require that voters be sent postage-prepaid envelopes for the return of completed absentee ballots.

What is clear from all of these lawsuits is that the Democrats and these organizations are trying to change the rules governing the administration of the November election, while it seems that the Republicans are trying to preserve the status quo.

 

Flipping the Script

 

It is also interesting, although probably to be expected, that the Times story dismisses all the problems with mail-in balloting raised by critics. The Times labels as “dubious” claims about possible fraud—such as just occurred across the river in Paterson, N.J. Nearly 20% of the ballots cast in that all-mail election were rejected, leading a judge to invalidate a city council election.

 

As for the problems encountered by voters due to misdelivery or delayed deliveries of ballots by the U.S. Postal Service, as well as the higher rejection rates of absentee ballots, the article blithely ignores these well-documented and all-too-common problems.

 

My, how times have changed. In 2012, the paper of record published a story entitled “Error and Fraud at Issue as Absentee Voting Rises.” That story concludes—correctly—that “votes cast by mail are less likely to be counted, more likely to be compromised and more likely to be contested than those cast in a voting booth, statistics show.” The rejection rate for absentee ballots, according to the New York Times in 2012, is “double the rate for in-person voting.”

 

That refutes the Brennan Center’s claim, advanced in the story, that attempts to defend existing laws are just “efforts to throw tacks in front of the tires to make it so states can’t run their election this time.” No, trying to stop the imprudent expansion of mail-in balloting—as the evidence shows—is an effort to prevent a higher rate of disenfranchisement and a higher incidence of possible fraud.

 

To be clear, only one side so far seems to be trying to “make it so states can’t run their elections” the way they are required to under their existing laws and regulations. And it appears these same actors are trying to take political advantage of the COVID-19 crisis by getting judges to order the same ill-advised changes to election law they’ve been trying to wring from Congress and state legislatures for years. Of course, these changes to election law and policy would be unwise no matter who was pushing them.

 

The story notes that the effort to expand vote-by-mail to supposedly help voters, especially minority voters, is being led by DNC general counsel Marc E. Elias. He and his law firm, Perkins Coie (the legal consigliere of the Democrats), even have a website called Democracy Docket that lists the numerous cases they have filed all over the country.

 

But has this always been their position?

 

Consider, for example, Ohio Democratic Party v. Husted, a 2015 case over various election changes affecting early voting and same-day registration. In that case, Elias and his law firm filed a brief criticizing absentee balloting. In what can only be termed a patronizing and racialist view, Elias essentially claimed that African-American voters just aren’t smart enough to vote using absentee ballots:

Lower levels of educational attainment make the complexities of the vote-by-mail process—which requires filling out a detailed absentee application, paying postage, filling out more information again when the ballot is received, and paying additional postage—even more difficult to navigate. As a consequence, mail-in absentee voting is a not a workable option for many African Americans.

While they are trying to void witness signature requirements on absentee ballots (because that is supposedly too dangerous and will lead to the spread of COVID-19), many of these same actors are also trying to override state laws banning vote harvesting.

 

So what is vote harvesting? When you vote by absentee ballot, you can either mail back your absentee ballot or you or a family member can hand-deliver your ballot to election officials. But states like California have legalized vote harvesting, which allows any third party to pick up your ballot to deliver it. Apparently, family members delivering ballots will give you COVID-19, but total strangers coming to your house (and hundreds of others) to pick up and deliver ballots is 100% risk-free.

 

The Real Danger

 

The real problem with ballot harvesting is that it puts ballots, a very valuable commodity, into the hands of individuals who have a stake in the outcome of the election—candidates, campaign staffers, party activists, and political guns-for-hire (consultants). This leads to predictable results.

 

Just look at the 2018 election in North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District. That election was overturned because of illegal vote harvesting that included a political consultant and his staff doing everything from filling out voters’ absentee ballots to forging voter signatures.

 

Yet in the face of COVID-19, liberals are trying to force states to allow strangers to go door-to-door in voters’ neighborhoods to pick up their absentee ballots. Not only will this potentially spread COVID-19, it will also put those strangers in a position to round up unused ballots and to coerce or pressure voters to vote the way the campaigns want them to vote—a recurring feature of absentee ballot fraud cases. Yet this is supposedly necessary because of the health crisis.

 

And what about postage-stamping the envelopes sent to voters for their use in returning their completed absentee ballots? It may sound innocuous, maybe even like a good-government reform, but it is actually another way of getting around having an Election Day deadline for returning an absentee ballot.

 

Envelopes already postmarked by election officials will not be postmarked again by the U.S. Postal Service. This leaves election officials with no way of knowing whether the absentee ballot was actually mailed prior to Election Day or after the election—perhaps when vote harvesters show up at the house of someone who didn’t vote in order to entice them to send in their absentee ballot to shore up their candidate’s vote totals based on the preliminary vote count.

 

After officials encouraged everyone to vote by mail, it took New York six weeks to count the ballots after their June 23 primary, due to an enormous increase in absentee ballots that election officials were not prepared to handle.

 

Large numbers of those ballots were rejected—one of every five in New York City—for everything from not having a postmark, to the voter’s signature not matching the one on file (a possible indication of fraud), to voters not properly supplying all of the registration information required on the outside of the ballot envelope.

 

Lawsuits were promptly filed contesting the results. A federal judge has now ordered New York officials to count ballots that were rejected because they did not have a postmark or because they had a prepaid postmark, disregarding whether or not they were voted after Election Day. The judge said not counting them would violate the constitutional rights of the voters.

 

This provides a prime example of how one side may game the system after Election Day. They will continue to push for the largest expansion of absentee and mail-in ballots possible. The motives behind these rushed changes may become clear if their candidates are winners on Election Day. Will their lawyers then stand down? Will these same actors criticize any losing candidates who refuse to accept the results as poor losers?

 

But if they are behind, particularly in the presidential campaign, will they file lawsuits everywhere they believe they have a political advantage, contesting the rejection of absentee ballots and seeking to get a court to order them counted, even if they don’t comply with state requirements, including being mailed before Election Day?

 

Shut Up and Vote

 

All that is certainly possible. For historical example, look no further than the Minnesota Senate race in 2008. Incumbent Republican Senator Norm Coleman was the winner on Election Day by a little over 700 votes out of 2.9 million cast in his race against Al Franken. Franken, represented by Marc Elias along with a huge legal team and backed by millions of dollars, swarmed the recount, aggressively demanding that absentee ballots which had been disqualified and rejected for failing to meet state legal requirements be added to Franken’s count, while at the same time arguing that others be denied to Coleman.

 

Eventually, Elias and his legal team were able to come up with enough absentee ballots to have Franken declared the winner by a 312-vote margin. The Minnesota Supreme Court ultimately stamped its approval on what Elias had accomplished—using litigation to reverse the election results. This would indeed be a successful litigation model to again follow in November for whoever loses, but at what cost to the integrity of how states administer their elections?

 

As noted above, it took six weeks for New York to count the absentee ballots cast in a primary. The turnout in general elections is inevitably much higher. Take the New York delay and the many problems it experienced, along with the litigation contesting the results, and multiply that by all of the states across the country that make the mistake of promoting massive absentee voting and keeping polling stations closed.

 

Then add in the lawsuits that will be filed on behalf of the tens of thousands of voters who missed their chance to vote because the U.S. Postal Service failed to deliver their ballots in time, a problem encountered by voters in every primary held since the COVID-19 crisis shut down the country.

 

It leaves us with this unsavory yet all-too-possible scenario: the election is close; neither presidential candidate has locked down a majority of Electoral College votes, and the outcome in states that could tip the scales one way or the other is still being contested on January 20—when the president’s term ends.

 

For the first time in our nation’s history, a little-known federal statute (3 U.S.C. § 19) could then be applied. That statute provides that if the outcome of the election is still in doubt on January 20, the speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, currently Nancy Pelosi, shall upon her “resignation as Speaker and Representative” act as the president until a president or vice president has been determined.

 

Nancy Pelosi has publicly opposed almost every action taken by Trump through his executive authority. Yet this statute would put someone who has won neither the national popular vote nor the votes of the Electoral College—and therefore has no mandate to govern—the power of reversing all of Trump’s policy changes and trying to implement her golden wish list of progressive policies she has been unable to get through Congress.

 

The 2020 presidential election contest may end up being one of the most chaotic, unruly, and tumultuous elections in our history, with contentious litigation dragging on through and beyond Inauguration Day. I hope that I am wrong, because I think that such a result would damage our democratic process and the body politic. But if I am right, we may have only one litigious party on the left side of the political aisle to blame. Americans must not let such tactics of suppression and intimidation keep them from making their voice heard come November.

Hans von Spakovsky


09/23/20 03:46 PM #8108    

 

Mark Schweickart

On a lighter, non-political note: I doubt many of you often watch the show America's Got Talent, so you probably haven't seen what I am recommending here. We usually record it and then speed through the far-too-many cheesy acts and the inane judging to find an act to land on that looks promising, and surprisingly enough, generally there are a few. This year, for the first time, they had a spoken-word performer doing his very personal poetry, and all four performances were outstanding. All four were family related. I've embedded below the first one, written about his sister.

And here are links to the other three.

To his absent father:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B25_fL0Iaik     

To his mother fearful for him being a young black man a la George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, etc.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuwwSYZyu2w

To his newborn daughter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yhBt-ULAcw




09/23/20 10:01 PM #8109    

 

Michael McLeod

We could go on like this indefinitely. But I'll just say this much and retreat. Time will tell.

MM's source above -- Hans von Spakovsky - has been characterized by the New Yorker as  "an implacable hunter of imaginary voter fraud." 

He is a leading purveyor of the notion that voter fraud is rampant, claims that have been largely discredited.

He was appointed by President Trump to a "voter-security commission." So he is a paid performer with an ax to grind and anything he says should be taken into consideration.

I think that commission is Trump's very characteristic way of casting doubt on anything that does serve his purposes, as the quite well researched article I posted asserts.

From a recent Washington Post story:

Even a database maintained by the Heritage Foundation, which conservatives frequently cite as evidence that voter fraud is prevalent, lists only 1,285 cases out of hundreds of millions of votes cast.

The number of cases related to absentee ballots is even less — 204 in the past 20 years, compared with a quarter-billion votes cast by mail during that time, according to an April analysis of the Heritage data by Amber McReynolds, chief executive of the National Vote at Home Institute and a former Denver elections director, and Charles Stewart III, a political science professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

“That’s one six-millionth of one percent of all votes!” Edward Perez, global director of technology development for the OSET Institute, a nonprofit election technology organization, wrote in an email. “. . . On a 100-mile road, a six-millionth of a percent is less than half an inch

I'll say no more because it just turns into a ping pong game between one set of sources  and another.

Truth will out. One can hope so, anyway.


09/24/20 10:09 AM #8110    

 

John Jackson

As Mike points out, the whole question of ballot fraud has been studied numerous times over the years and problems found to be virtually non-existent.  And ever since Trump tried to explain away his 3 million vote loss of the popular vote in 2016 by alleging fraud, the “problem” has been re-examined with a vengeance, and no remotely significant level of irregularity has been found.

But the fevered far-right persists and we can thank them and their unfounded conspiracy theories for seriously undermining, for the first time in our lives, Americans’ faith in their own democracy.


09/24/20 10:22 AM #8111    

 

John Jackson

Given their refusal to consider Merrick Garland, Obama’s Supreme Court nominee (a nomination made more than 7-1/2 months before the 2016 election), the hypocrisy of the Senate Republicans knows no bounds.  We’ve come a long, long way since Lindsey Graham made this promise (the video is only 30 seconds):

For what it’s worth, the guy interviewing Graham in the video is Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic - you know, the sketchy guy who made up the article about Trump calling our WWII dead suckers and losers.


09/24/20 12:30 PM #8112    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

What I have noticed in posting any article presenting a counter point to those persons who disagree with my conservative principles is that the author or the website of said article is immediately disparaged thus casting doubt on the substance and validity of that particular article. Wereas, if one quotes or presents material from authors or sources affiliated news sources such as the NYT, the Washington Post or The Atlantic.....that information is to be taken as irrefutable and completely unbiased.

Thousands of ballots from Wisconsin voters were not counted in the recent primary because of mailing problems and technical glitches.

Wisconsin held its controversial primary election in April during the height of the coronavirus pandemic. Many voters opted to file for absentee ballots rather than visiting the polls in person. A report from the Wisconsin Election Commission last week found that 2,693 absentee ballots were not properly counted because of technical difficulties.

 

Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, has embraced the idea of sending absentee ballots to every voter in the state ahead of the forthcoming elections, which could place a significant burden on the system.

 

In 2016, an NBC affiliate in Florida Reported that a postal employee was caught on surveillance camera dumping mail, including a real estate firm’s mailers, into a dumpster behind a pizzeria in Lee County, Florida.

At the time, the postal service insisted such incidents are “rare,” though NBC 2 found during that fiscal year, there were 493 arrests and $31.1 million in fines for “mail theft, delay, and destruction.”

 

In 2014, ABC 9 reported a mail carrier was captured throwing away trays of mail in Cincinnati, Ohio.


09/24/20 01:00 PM #8113    

 

John Jackson

MM, neither you nor I have enough independent knowledge of the situation surrounding voter fraud to assess the accuracy of these claims and counter-claims.   For me, it’s enough that the overwhelming majority of those with the interest, time, and resources to study this topic in depth over the years have concluded that voter fraud is a non-issue (and articles in NYT, The Atlantic, etc. cite these studies).

I’d put climate change in the same category – the overwhelming majority of knowledgeable climate experts, in this country and around the world, are convinced human-caused climate change is happening and, if anything, their predictions have been on the conservative side.  And you know the battle is over when even the major fossil fuel companies have thrown in the towel and admitted that climate change is real.  Here’s what Exxon says (and all the other majors say similar things on their websites):

https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/Energy-and-environment/Environmental-protection/Climate-change

 


09/24/20 10:37 PM #8114    

 

David Mitchell

Some insteresting voices in the last few days speaking warnings against th Donald without even touching on the mail in issue.  

Of the 489 former Generals, Admirals and white House Security officials (both Democrat and Republican), who signed the letter being referrd to as  "World On fire", this quote caught my attention;

 

Retired Air Force Gen. Charles G. Boyd, who signed the new letter, recorded a video for the group’s Twitter account.

“I spent 36 years in the United States Air Force, almost seven of those as a prisoner of war in Vietnam,” he said in the video. “Since my return, I’ve been a Republican, but quietly.”

“I fervently believe that military officers should not be involved in presidential politics, even when retired,” said Boyd, who is the only former POW to have reached four-star rank, and served as deputy commander of the U.S. European Command. “But this year is different. Donald Trump’s assault on the rule of law that makes a democracy possible has been so egregious I’ve decided to speak out. . . . We need to vote for Joe Biden this year. I’m going to vote for him. I hope you do, too.”

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And just days ago brought us the release of former General McMaster's new book "Battlegrounds" in which he cites many warnings about Trumps performance - especially his love of our arch-enemies and his distain for our allies. (and I think he gains credibiity by NOT going into the internecine intrigue of the White House 

I jumped on one of my most concerning issues - one which has almost slid past the general public, overshadowed by all the other stuff in the headlines. General McMaster criticises our decison to negotiate with the Taliban in Afghanistan.

I could not agree more!!!!

And I would rate this decision even higher on the list of inane stupiity than the tax cut (which raised out national debt by about ONE TRILLION DOLLARS - before the recent Covid Bail out - for which I can perfectly well unerstand and grant a degree of acceptance). If not for all the Covid virus and all the racial upheaval, I suspect this item alone would be sparking heated debate. But it will probably slip by unchallenegd and set a new norm for idiotic, cowardly statesmanship.      

And please note: this list of names is bi-partisan, including many names who are NOT a bunch of Left-Wing Liberals. 


09/24/20 10:38 PM #8115    

 

David Mitchell

Speaking of voiting by mail, here are a few facts of note.

  • President Trump is accelerating his crusade against states' efforts to expand absentee and mail-in voting, including inflating claims of fraud and spreading baseless theories about ballots being stolen
  • But Trump himself and over 20 members of his family, administration, campaign team, and other top officials in his orbit have voted or tried to vote by mail in recent years. 
  • Most recently, Insider reported that Vice President Mike Pence and Second Lady Karen Pence voted absentee this spring in Indiana while registered at an address they haven't lived at for almost four years.

09/24/20 11:06 PM #8116    

 

David Mitchell

Speaking of climate change, I dare anyone to try and argue that it's a myth with officials and and property owners of Norffolk, Virginia.

Question: Does the city keep protecting those waterfront neighborhoods? Or let them give up and decide to move out? No winners in this contest. Hard to get to work when your street floods - every day.

Or how 'bout the Property and Causalty Insurance companies who insure buildings from Miami Beach to New York City. Remember, most of those older high rise buildings have their electrical systems in the basements. Nervous about their coverage - you bet. But they don't discuss it very often in public. Some efforts to re-locate the equipment to higher floors - - expensive, you betta beleive it!

Boy howdie - could git jist a might messy!

 


09/25/20 08:56 AM #8117    

 

Michael McLeod

MM brings up a critical point. Considering your sources is absolutely critical in any debate these days. It is no overstatement to say that we live in a "post-truth world."

I've been researching that subject for a while and will write something about it soon. 

 


09/25/20 10:11 AM #8118    

 

John Jackson

I agree that sources are very important.  But just because you can find a “source” for your views doesn’t prove their validity - some sources have much better and longer track records at getting it right than others.  And the better sources often include opposing views/quotes in their reporting and their organizations use fact checkers and editors whose job it is to keep the reporting from getting out of line.

Also not sure what a “post-truth world” means.  There are some questions where the answer definitely lies in the eye of the beholder (what’s the best movie, should we have another pandemic stimulus package or not?) and other questions that can be answered with certainty (how many legs does an insect have, do American importers/consumers or Chinese exporters pay American import duties?).

 


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