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11/19/19 03:43 PM #6529    

 

Frank Ganley

Mary Ann how did i lose my mind or memory


11/19/19 03:45 PM #6530    

 

Frank Ganley

Mary Ann did i make any mistakes in my last post. Please refresh my memory if i made a mistake.


11/19/19 06:18 PM #6531    

 

David Mitchell

 

Seems to me we have taken a wrong turn somewhere. Could we backup and try another direction?

Politics has become sadly, divisive - and I am as guilty as anyone on the Forum for some of my causitc abrasive opinions. 

 

Here are a few articles about a different topic from the "Delta".

Just a short walk from our airfield on the edge of the city of Vinh Long, was a Catholic Convent whre Vietnamese, French and Irish (I think?) nuns ran a rather well known orphanage. I am ashamed to say, tah i never walked over for a visit - perhaps no more than a 10 minute walk. My good buddy. Roger (the Cobra pilot / homebuilder / sailboat builder), an atheist (sort of) himself, went over often to play with the kids and swim in the pool.

The convent had come under attack during the "TET" Offensive of February 1968 (I was still in "Basic" in Louisiana) and VC had gotten inside the convent walls. My (future) squadron's little infantry platoon fought their way inside the complex and killed the group of VC inside. I beleive I heard that none of the nuns or the kids were killed - I don't know about any wounded.

I'll follow the (photos) with a really disconcerting article about the eventual disposition of the convent.

If I can't transfer this article correctly, enter the article title below in your search wondow and view the photos. There are a lot of photos.

Good Shepherd Convent and Orphanage in Vinh Long 1967-68 | Flickr

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Sorry - there is a huge empty space at the bottom of the article. I lhad to leave some of it out.  * Keep swiping.

 
Good Shepherd Convent and Orphanage in Vinh Long 1967-68
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Vĩnh Long 1967 - Photo by Ron Alcott - Sr. Bridie - Soeur Bridie, một trong năm nữ tu người Ireland thuộc Dòng Mục Tử Nhân Lành tại Vĩnh Longby manhhai
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Ron Alcott với các Soeur Bridie và Joan thuộc Dòng nữ tu và Cô nhi viện Mục Tử Nhân Lành ở Vĩnh Long, năm 1966by manhhai
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Vĩnh Long 1967 - Photo by Ron Alcott - Good Shepherd Convent courtyard - Sân trong Dòng nữ tu Mục Tử Nhân Lành tại Vĩnh Longby manhhai
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11/19/19 06:25 PM #6532    

 

David Mitchell

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War-torn convent waits and wonders

Sister Mary stands in front of the bullet-riddled entrance to the convent and school she oversees near the U.S. air base at Vinh Long

RUSS ANDERSON/STARS AND STRIPES

 

Published: April 8, 1968

VINH LONG, Vietnam — She was frightened and not ashamed of it.

"They'll be back. They'll come back to our convent," she said. "I know it and ... my girls know it. And we don't know what to do about it."

Sister Mary isn't the type who scares easily. She has been in Vietnam for 10 years and has heard bullets flying above her more than once.

But it's never been like this for her, her sister nuns or the 100-plus occupants of her school of rehabilitation for girls.

The school buildings, once neat and stately, are now pockmarked with bullet holes or shattered from rockets and mortars. The girls, once smiling and busy, are now shocked and idle. Many have left.

Sister Mary is head of the school administered by eight nuns — five Irish, two Vietnamese and one Malay. There are more than 100 girls aged 9 to 16.

The school sits on a few hundred square yards of property bordering on the U.S. Army's Vinh Long AB.

 
"Several of our girls had to live with the Viet Cong before they came here," Sister Mary said. "They know how vicious and determined they are."

Then the Irish nun told the story that has her worried about the future:

"We have a new girl here. She told me that just before she arrived she had talked to a Viet Cong official who wore three stars on his uniform.

"He told her that the Viet Cong would liberate Vinh Long from the Americans. This was after Tet. Their major target was the air base and our convent would be in the way, he told her.

"The girl told him that we were good people and shouldn't be harmed. But he said our school would be the Viet Cong jumping off place for the attack on the base."

This is what happened during the Tet offensive and Sister Mary is afraid it will happen again.

"We have so little security here," she says. "The Vietnamese government is responsible for our protection but they only provide three soldiers. They are very brave soldiers. But only three."

It was an American helicopter pilot and crew who rescued the girls during the last Viet Cong attack on the convent.

"Captain (Robin) Miller and his men were just fantastic," Sister Mary recalls. "But now that he's gone ... well, we just don't know."

(Miller has since been wounded and hospitalized with a shattered hand.)

Meanwhile, the convent's population has dwindled from 200 to a little over 100. Sister Mary said many of the girls were sent away for their own protection. "But they're starting to come back on their own," she says.

Asked if she feared: for the safety of herself and the other nuns, Sister Mary replied: "We have only to look at Hue."

The nuns are trying to get the school back to normal. Small repairs are being made so the girls can get back to their dormitories. They are now crowded into one small room.
 

 

11/19/19 06:49 PM #6533    

 

David Mitchell

About 10 years ago, the local Communist goverment of Vinh Long called a "meeting" and invited the nuns to meet and discuss the future of the convent. What the nuns walked into was a "press conference" wherein the government had asembled the press, to accuse the nuns of years of training "counter-revolutionaries".

 After many years of a legendary reputaion as a home for orphaned children and "wayward girls" - educating and preparing them for jobs, the nuns were publicly humiliated and the governmenet seized the property and bulldozed it to be developed as a luxury hotel. However, I believe it actually became a public park after certain voices (not sure whom) protested their actions.

 

 

Defaming sisters of Vinh Long to turn their orphanage into a hotel

by J.B. An Dang
Letter from the bishop: "How sad it is to see religious attacked who for 31 years have served the poor and the sick." The building had been requisitioned to turn it into a pediatric hospital, never realized.
 
 
 

Hanoi (AsiaNews) - How sad it is to see sisters defamed in order to "justify" the appropriation of their orphanage, lovingly maintained for 31 years, and turn it into a place of amusement. The bishop of Vinh Long, Thomas Nguyen Van Tan, has written in these terms in a letter dated December 18 and addressed to the priests, religious, and lay people of his diocese.

The bishop is referring to what is happening to the Sisters of Charity of Saint Vincent de Paul, a congregation of French origin, present in Vinh Long - 160 kilometers south of Ho Chi Minh City - since 1871. Until 1975, the sisters managed a large complex on To Thi Huynh street in the city, used as a convent and orphanage. In April of 1977, in order to "transform society toward socialism," the authorities instituted a policy of requisitioning land and buildings. On September 6, 1977, they requisitioned the convent and orphanage of the sisters, sending away the young people who were staying there, and even the handicapped children. According to the 1958 resolution of the People's Committee of Cuu Long, the province in which Vinh Long is located, the convent and orphanage were expropriated in order to be used as a "pediatric hospital and hospital for the province." This was never done.

But the sisters have never stopped asking for the restitution of their complex. Now, in order to justify the transformation of the former orphanage into a four-star hotel, the authorities are accusing the sisters of "training a generation of unfortunate youth to be an anti-revolution force to oppose the liberation of the country."

"It is so embittering," writes the bishop, referring to the accusation, "for the sisters, for you, and for me, too. How we can help not to feel painful to see the sisters being kicked out of their monastery empty-handed after 31 years serving the poor and the unfortunate? How sad it is to see the ruin of the monastery which our brothers and sisters had contributed countless efforts to build for more than a century. And how painful it is to see a place for worshipping God, for praying to Him, for spiritual training, and for providing charity services being converted into a place for entertaining."

"Maybe my voice today," the bishop further writes, "is just 'a voice in a desert' (Mt 3:3) as the voice of the power seems to have prevailed over the voice of justice, of conscience, especially in an era where material things supersede morality, charity and justice. However, I still have to raise my voice so that future generations won’t condemn us as those who have eyes but do not see, ears but do not hear, and a mouth but do not dare to speak."

"As we celebrate this Christmas," concludes Bishop Nguyen Van Tan, "let us earnestly implore our God and Savior grant unto the world His true peace, a peace in its fullness that is based on justice and morality."


11/20/19 09:01 AM #6534    

 

Frank Ganley

Hey  Maryann how can you think you can beat MaryMargaret in a debate when you can't answer my simple questions!


11/20/19 09:28 AM #6535    

 

Michael McLeod

Jim: thought you'd enjoy this.

From the ny times - An on the spot diagnosis

 

By Jay Wellons

Dr. Wellons is a pediatric neurosurgeon.

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Last year I was invited to give a lecture at a college in Vermont. It was to be a quick 36-hour trip — flight to Burlington, fancy dinner the first night and the lecture and some meetings the next day, then back home to Nashville.

Years ago, I was a light traveler. I had toured Ireland with only a change of clothes and a school backpack. But as I aged, the inner Boy Scout in me gradually took over, and my suitcases grew burdened with things I would almost certainly never need. Who knows, there may be a pool nearby and I would be bereft without my swim goggles. I might actually need both black and brown shoes, right? This time I vowed to return to my roots. No extra stuff. I put on a suit, threw a lightweight backpack over my shoulder and headed for the plane.

What else could I possibly need, I thought, fighting off a hint of anxiety and a faint longing for my swim goggles.

Soon after, I settled into my seat on the plane and we took off. I carefully folded my suit jacket, placed it on the empty seat next to me and began to drift off to sleep. I was jolted awake as a flight attendant walked swiftly past, heading toward the front of the airplane. Soon after came the inevitable announcement asking if there were medical personnel on board.

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Two lights came on. Mine and one two rows in front of me, at the seat of a young woman. The flight attendants made it to both of us simultaneously.

“I’ve got a brain surgeon here,” said mine.

“A nurse practitioner here,” said the other, perhaps a hint of disappointment in her voice.

All eyes turned to me.

“All hands on deck is my rule,” I quickly said to the nurse, who warmly smiled back. We introduced ourselves to one another. I learned that her name was Susan and that she worked in a primary care clinic — which was excellent news for everyone involved.

We made our way to the back of the half-empty plane. There on the next to last row was a middle-aged man covered in blood. He held a cantaloupe-size wad of tissue under his nose from which blood was pouring out as if a spigot had been opened. He had a deep laceration on the top of his nose but the blood was coming from inside.

I would like to say that I immediately began to assess his medical situation. Instead, my thoughts went to my shirt and suit as the only articles of clothing that I had for the next 36 hours.

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I tucked my tie in my shirt. One of the flight attendants handed us latex gloves and I leaned in to pinch the bridge of the man’s nose and ask what had happened. He remained silent but the flight attendant spoke up, “He said he hit it on a counter as he bent over to pick up his briefcase this morning.”

The man took over: “It had stopped bleeding before I got on the plane but it wasn’t coming from the inside until a few minutes ago.” I asked him the usual questions about being on aspirin or other blood thinners. Was he a free bleeder or had any problems with bleeding in the past? No, no and no.

Classic first aid teaching says to pinch the cartilage of the bridge of the nose to stop a nosebleed. I did this, but nothing happened. The blood continued to pour out of his nose. I looked to Susan and said, “This may not be so easy.” She nodded and began to rifle through her purse.

“He did just have vodka right before it started,” the flight attendant volunteered, pointing to the small empty bottle lying on the seat next to him. Susan and I looked at one another knowingly. Alcohol can raise the blood pressure acutely in some people, particularly those with high blood pressure already.

“Do you take blood pressure medicine?” I asked him. “Do you have any on the plane?”

“Yes,” he answered, “and no.” He turned away, the blood still flowing. Suddenly, I began to piece it all together as a severe disruption of the plexus of blood vessels in the mucosa underneath the bridge of the nose, possibly worsened by elevated blood pressure. I had neurosurgery partners at home who would treat intractable nosebleeds by snaking a tiny microcatheter up from the groin into the arteries of the nose to inject a type of glue directly into the vessels. Invariably, that would stop this type of hemorrhage.

None of that and none of them, however, were with us at 15,000 feet.

“Anyone have any nasal spray?” I asked. “Afrin specifically?” Afrin is basically neosynephrine, a potent vasoconstrictor, and would be ideal to put on a tissue stuffed deeply in the nose.

“And a tampon?” Susan added, holding up a tampon from her purse and smiling. Multiple eyes turned toward her.

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“Brilliant,” I said, turning to the flight attendant. “Can you make an announcement calling for Afrin nasal spray and a tampon?” Quick enough, the overhead rang out. The man behind us handed up a bottle of Afrin.

“It’s used,” he said.

“Ooooooo, gross,” another passenger added.

I took the bottle and wiped the tip down with what was left of the vodka, trying to make a show of it to all around. I looked up and saw several female hands in the air. Within seconds we had our choice of tampons: small, medium, large, extra-absorbent, all different types were available. There were even some disposable pads, with and without wings.

We settled on medium, extra absorbent. We doused it in Afrin and quickly shoved it up the man’s nose as far as we could. By shove I mean that I put my hand behind his head to keep him from pulling away while Susan removed blood-soaked tissue. On the count of three, we put that tampon as far as humanly possible into an orifice entirely different than the one it was designed for.

His bucking during the first insertion was nowhere near as dramatic as it was during the second. By then, he knew what was coming and his eyes widened as we hovered over him a second time and counted. Afterward, to his credit, he calmed down quickly, even mouthing, “thank you” to us and giving a thumbs up.

It was soon evident that this procedure had actually worked. The blood flow had essentially stopped. I did keep up the external pressure, though, switching on and off with Susan the last 30 minutes of the flight. During landing, I stood in the row behind him, pinching his nose from behind. Susan sat next to him monitoring his pulse, calming him. I peered down to see no spattering of blood on my shirt, no bloody tissue sitting on my pants cuff. I breathed a sigh of relief, slightly guilty for being concerned about such a thing.

After landing, the plane went straight to the gate where two emergency medical technicians awaited with a gurney, medical supplies, and a smirk about the “emergency nose bleed.” They came on board as soon as the airplane door opened and found the patient in seat 24B with two bloodstained tampons sticking out of both sides of his nose, the strings hanging down toward his shirt. He managed to give another thumbs up to the EMTs and a smile.

As the technicians loaded him up on the gurney, it dawned on me that my proud, newly revisited days of packing light were gone forever. And that a well-placed tampon in an emergency was way more useful on a flight than a pair of swim goggles.

Jay Wellons, M.D., is a professor and chief of pediatric neurosurgery 


11/20/19 10:35 AM #6536    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike,

Great story! A "MacGyver" (remember that TV series) approach to medicine is somtimes necessary.There are two basic types of nosebleeds (epistaxis), anterior and posterior, which come from different blood supplies. The posterior is the worse and harder to stop. This patient probably suffered from that one.

I once stopped an anterior one with a styptic pencil, but not on an airplane. That was about as MacGyver as I have had to be.

 

Jim 


11/21/19 05:49 PM #6537    

 

David Mitchell

Just now - my front yard - chilli 56 degrees - sunset, 5:44p.m. - May River oyster beds - Bluffton SC. 


11/23/19 02:18 PM #6538    

 

Kathleen Wintering (Nagy)

Beautiful Picture, Dave! Kathy W.


11/24/19 12:04 AM #6539    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Well Dave since you have put almost everyone to sleep with that breathtaking photo I figure the time is ripe to finish my TRAVELOGUE.

When I last left off we had arrived in Elko, NV for the night.  Early (7:30 ish A.M. after breakfast) we departed Elko heading towards Reno on I-80.  Everything was clear, but slightly chilly (this part of Nevada is considered a dessert in the mountains). The scenery is vast and beautiful surrounded by mountains of which we climbed through a few and descended through many.  Outside (East) of Reno we made our last fuel stop before we reached home.  This is when we learned that smoke from grass fires had temporarily shut down I-80 in both directions; but was open by the time we reached the fuel stop.

I-80 passes through Reno just like I-71 passes through Columbus.  The Exception is that you get within a couple hundred feet of major casinos.  Just West of Reno is the California state line, which USUALLY means we only have about four - four and a half Hours till we reach the old homestead.  At this point I noticed that it was raining; then it was snow flurries. We had only gotten about ten miles into California when I noticed an announcement on the LARGE overhead electric sign.  ROAD CLOSED - 13 MILES AHEAD, and something about accident.  With NO alternative roads at that point all I could do was keep driving.  Sure enough we came to a complete halt, except for motorcycles.  For the next 1 1/2 hours we would slowly creep forward, then stop, creep forward, then stop.  Finally we reached the site where two tractor trailers had skidded into each other in the snow while going downhill. Did I mention that from just after Reno yopu are headed downhill until you reach Sacramento CA (a normal hours drive from Reno).

After passing the site of the accident we were able to pickup some speed.  Until we approached the California checkpoint for ALL vehicles.  We don't want you to briing any fruit into our agricultural state so they pay people to stand at the checkpoint and ask: Where are you coming from, Do you have any fruit or vegtables in your vehicle, okay have a nice day.

Next usual problem area is Sacramento and the rest of our trip on I-80.  However, we were able to slide right through everything.  We exited I-80 onto highway 12 leading to Napa, and onto the city of Sonoma.  From there we take highway 116 towards Petaluma (Pet-a-luma); then take a side road around the East/North side of Petaluma to Rohnert Park.  We made it home about 6:12P.M., after a quick stop for dinner.

Then the real fun begins as I completely unload the Expedition.

Glad Dave put everyone asleep with that dreamy picture so I could sneak in the end of my September trip.

Joe

Since being home this month we only had to deal with another raging fire in the county, plus first time complete electric outages and MANDATORY evacuations for many areas all around Sonoma, Marin, and Lake couties.


11/24/19 03:07 AM #6540    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave,  

What a beautiful photograph of that sunset and those silhouetted trees! According to the time and date that you posted it, I was watching the first of a heavy, wet snowfall bombarding us in sub-freezing temperatures. The next day involved lots of shoveling.

Joe,

Your journey travelog was well appreciated and certainty was a great argument to see America by car and experience the sights and local places along the highways and byways of so many states.

Jim

 


11/24/19 10:46 AM #6541    

 

Michael Boulware

My nephew is the new, head baseball coach at Watterson. He is the son of my youngest brother , Dave. Dave Boulware graduated from Eagle high in 1973 and married a wonderful girl from his class (Mary Pat Morris). Their three sons graduated from Watterson and turned out to be fantastic people. Dave and Mary Pat's second son(Jeffery) is a teacher in the Wothington City School District while taking on the responsibilty of being baseball coach. 

This is a combination of gossip and bragging that I thought some of you would want to know.


11/24/19 11:46 AM #6542    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Mike B.,

It's not bragging, it's family pride and a good thing. Congrats to all their accomplishments. 

And nice to have one of yours following in the footsteps of Ron Shay! 

Jim 


11/24/19 11:52 AM #6543    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

Mike,

Watterson obviously produces great people beyond the Class of '66!  I worry about your brother, though. What will he do when Watterson plays Worthington for the state high school Baseball Championship?  

Clare


11/24/19 12:52 PM #6544    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Mike, I second Jim's thoughts on being proud.

Now Who has relatives that are cheerleaders, male or female, at those schools?

Joe


11/24/19 01:01 PM #6545    

 

David Mitchell

Very cool Mike. But am confused. I wouldn't have thought anybody in your family knew what a ball without pointed ends was.

 

And Clare, damn good question.

 

Joe, You are just such a wild and crazy guy. I remember crosssing the California state line yeas ago - somewhere way down south near Needles, CA, and when the border guards asked us about getting rid of any fruit or plants we were carrying, I though they were joking. At that very hot location, they aso warned that we had to have very fresh tires, and that bicycelists were not permitted to cross that long hot stretch of road in warm weather - the heat would "cook" their tires - and not a human being, or gas station for almost a full tank. The countryside looked like the back side of the moon for hours.I'm sure its a lot prettier where you crossed. 


11/24/19 04:15 PM #6546    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)




11/24/19 05:24 PM #6547    

 

Michael Boulware

Clare, I did not make myself very clear. My brother will have no problem. His son  is a Worthington teacher, but is the head baseball coach at Watterson.


11/24/19 08:21 PM #6548    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

So glad to hear that, Mike. We always had to choose sides at our house when Watterson played St. Charles and sometimes it was not pretty!! Speaking of our house, as of Friday, the Hummer Hacienda on Oakland Park has sold. For the first time since 1955, mail will not be addressed & delivered to anyone named Hummer. My oldest brother, Ted, bought it from my parents in the late 70's and raised a nest of five Watterson Eagles to continue the Hummer legacy there as well.  They, in turn, are now sending more Hummers to the halls of Watterson. I'm feeling a bit nostalgic as Ted downsizes. When I was over to take a final tour, I was struck by how small the rooms and the yard seemed. They have definitely shrunk since childhood!! I wondered if any other family homes were still in the family. I know the Clark Castle down the street is still in their family although without the Clark name. Anyone else still have ties to the memories I have of where you lived?  
Happy Thanksgiving, friends. 
Clare


11/24/19 09:27 PM #6549    

 

Peggy Southworth (Townley)

Mary Clare - my sister and I share the home in which we were raised.   We are both widows.   Mom and Dad built this house in 1957 or 1958.  Nobody else has lived here.   In fact, when I lost my Texas home to flood in May, 2016, I moved back here with Patti.   I have the same bedroom I had when I was 9!  Mom and Dad always kept up the house and we do also.   It's very comfortable and full of memories.  Love it.  


11/25/19 07:48 AM #6550    

 

Fred Clem

Mike,

By the way, isn't brother Dave the statistician for the BWHS baseball team?

Fred


11/25/19 05:15 PM #6551    

 

Frank Ganley

Mike B, Dizzy Dean said it ain't braggin if it's fact


11/25/19 05:29 PM #6552    

Kathleen O'Reilly (Britt)

My 93 year old mom still lives in my childhood home at 154 DeSantis Drive. She is happy there and still goes down to the basement to do laundry. I have had 2 nieces graduate from Watterson. My niece, Moira, is a senior this year and plays  softball  for Watterson now and will continue to play in college. Lots of good memories on DeSantis Drive and at Watterson.


11/25/19 10:26 PM #6553    

 

David Mitchell

WOW ! 

Kathy O'reilly ! ! !

 

Where have you been all this time?  

Do you remember what you used to call me up about in 3rd or 4th grade?


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