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11/06/19 08:01 PM #6431    

 

David Mitchell

Also - a special category; the "Doo Wop" sound - maybe the most fun of all - even if it was early grade school for most of us. Those were the records my older sisters were buying. So I heard a lot of that in my house. The Diamonds, The Tokens, The Skyliners, The Flamingos, The Del Vikings, The Coasters, The Drifters, Dion and the Belmonts, and one my favorites, The Platters - - - 



 


11/06/19 08:03 PM #6432    

Lawrence Foster

Dave

I enjoyed the Elvis videos that you posted, especially #6442 with Steve Allen and a lady who is familiar but I can't remember her name.  There was one particular part where I was I was a bit taken back by Elvis's (a.k.a. Tumbleweed Presley) words so replayed it and listened real carefully.  It starts at the 6:34 mark of the video and he sings this:

I got a horse and I got a gun

And I'm going out and have some fun

I'm a warning you galoots

Don't step on my blue suede boots.

Looking things up Carl Perkins had written and recorded Blue Suede Shoes in December 1955 and released it in February 56.  He and Elvis had a friendship.  Elvis's version was released in September 56.  I got a real kick hearing that.  Thanks for posting it.


11/06/19 09:16 PM #6433    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave, 

 

A couple of months ago we watched and recorded a PBS show of the new generation of Doo Wop performers. They were mere young kids who sang the old songs and were fantastic. Some of the original Doo Wopers joined in at times. Great show!

Jim 


11/07/19 12:52 AM #6434    

 

David Mitchell

Larry,

Yes, I did hear those words from Elvis and wondered if anyone would pick up on that in teh video. I was also aware that Carl Perkins was the first to record "Blue Suede Shoes".

The lady is Imogene Coca, a regular on Sid Ceasars "Show of Shows". My dad always thought she was a comedic genius. He was not a big Sid Ceasar fan, but he loved her.

It took me almost to the end of the video to realize that was Andy Griffith in the back.

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Jim,

I have also seen a number of  PBS specilas with different styles and genres of past musical hits, performed by the original groups, or a mixture of old and new members. Several of them have been Doo Wop groups, and the crowds are giving standing ovations for almost every song.  

 

*** One of these shows had a bunch of groups like the Four Preps, the Four Freshman, Rosemary Clooney, etc. They always have harmony and backup singers off to the side. On one of those shows the lead backup singer, a pretty brunette in a bright red gown, was Mimi Rousseau, Susie's Sister (OLP thru 2nd grade, then IC and St. Joe's Acadamy - my next door neighbors). I was shocked when I recognized who it was. 

Oh, BTW, This is Mimi - Not in a pretty red dress, and Not a brunette. "Spittin Image" was quite a popular band around Columbus in the 70's. I never heard them perform live. We lived in Denver at the time, but I still have one of their albums.

You IC'ers might remember Mimi. she was one year behind us in school.




11/07/19 07:18 AM #6435    

 

Michael McLeod

The Rosseaus, as I recall, lived in a big house right next to I C, and had an equally big, Catholic-sized brood. 


11/07/19 02:27 PM #6436    

 

David Mitchell

Yes Mike,

I think it was 2 doors down and the house needed serious renovation when Jack and Betty bought it. Did Sharon Selleck's(?) family live there before? Or was it a group of Catholic religious brothers?

And yes, there were 6 kids, and I think all had singing talent. Jack and the girls could all sing well, (not sure about baby brother John). And Betty could play that big grand piano (in that wonderful living room) by ear. She could hear a song once and play it flawlessly. 

As I alluded in an earlier post, Susie stunned the entire audience with her voice at a St. Joe's annual talent show. Still think she was better than Mimi, but she never pursued it.

Plus, she was my first playmate. The first person I can recall knowing beyond my own family. We played "house" and Robin Hood & Maid Marian, and Indian Chief & Squaw many many days between about age 3 and second grade, when they moved down to N. Broadway.

She and I also had a "pot holder weaving club" with another girl on the block. You see I was multi-talented from a very early age.   (whatever happpend to that kid?)


11/07/19 05:26 PM #6437    

 

David Mitchell

Hsppy Birthday to Donna!

It sounded like political turmoil had hit Barcelona again a week or so ago. Are things okay with you two?


11/07/19 06:53 PM #6438    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

Thanks for the birthday wishes, Dave! 

There has been a lot of disturbance in recent weeks by violent groups within the independence movements. We have national elections (again!) on Sunday and Catalan elections soon. No time to be bored.

There was a house between the school and the Rousseau house and Sharon Selleck's family lived on the other side of the Rousseaus.  Now if I could just remember where I left my keys and glassessmiley!!

 

 

 


11/07/19 09:00 PM #6439    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

A Watterson classmate posted this video to FB today.  If songs can transport us back in time, this song placed me at an after football game sock hop in the Watterson gym in 1962!



  


11/07/19 09:17 PM #6440    

 

John Maxwell

Yep, there's plenty of music out there. Something for everyone. More now than anytime in history. From the shepard's flute to the most sophisticated digital compositions from virtually every era, there is the most music on this planet ever. And Elvis had little impact on any of it. I like Koto, nothing like a five note scale. And of course the ever popular Harmonicats. Here's a goofy quiz. Name as many singers as you can named Frank, and Mary.

11/07/19 10:10 PM #6441    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

To All,

Seems that we are back discussing music, a recurring topic on this Forum, and one to which we all can relate. As with so many other topics, we do not necessarily agree but we can all appreciate what music has meant in our lives.

About a year ago I heard this instrumental (I prefer that version as opposed to the one with vocals) by Mason Williams, whom we probably remember for his hit, Classical Gas, back in the day. I think this is a beautiful song, from one of his Christmas albums, Dreams of Snow and Mistletoe, and appropriately entitled A Gift of Song. It is just simply beautiful music. I assume some of you may already be familiar with it.

So to all of our classmates, I send to you, as we enter the holidays, this gift of song:

(If it does not open or connect, go to You Tube and enter "A Gift of Song Mason Williams".)

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZohIhnkH74
 
 
Jack,
 
As for Franks and Marys I would guess there are TNTC of those singers!

 

 


11/08/19 07:55 PM #6442    

 

John Maxwell

Jim,
Thanks for playing, we have some nice parting prizes.

11/09/19 07:06 AM #6443    

 

Michael Boulware

I just returned from a University of Kentucky Football Reunion and was saddened to read about the news of Mark's brother. Tom is fortunate to have such a loyal and faithful brother to help him.

On a brighter note, I spent time with our classmate and Kentucky teammate, Don Holland. We listened to his experiences out in Idaho. That man is truly the most interesting person I know and a great individual. 


11/09/19 11:41 AM #6444    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

I always thought Don was an interesting guy, even though I never became very close with him. His home, Sand Point, is considered to be one of the garden spots of the world - especially if you like mountains, skiing, snow boarding, and fly fishing.

 

But speaking of Wildcat Football, don't you have a few good "nuggets" to share with us from those days in Lexington?

And you may not have known them back then, but two years behind you was a sweet Watterson girl from the Seidel family who marrried another Kentucky classmate - one Joe Craft Jr., who's name is on the new U.K. pracitce basketball facility. He was listed a few years back in Forbes as the 913th richest man in the world with a family history of strip mining and later, oil and real estate. Then he divorced Kathy and married a gold digging tramp named Kelly Knight, who just became our new ambassador to the United Nations. He left the cutest girl this side of Pluto and 4 kids after 40 + years of marriage. He got very tight with insiders in Kentucky politics and his close ties to Mitch McConnel appear to be what helped "buy" his new wife's position. She had previously been ambassador to Canada, although they don't like her - she was hardly ever in Canada while she held that position.

And by the way, althought she was the chairman of the Kentucky Republican party, and was one of the "gavel persons" at a couple Republican National conventions, I don't think she knows a blinking thing about intetrnational relations.

(see Kelly Knight Craft - United Nations)

Money talks.


11/09/19 11:45 AM #6445    

 

Michael McLeod

Donna: My parent were friends with the people who lived in that house between I C and the Rosseau house. The man's name was Bill Sheehan; I forget his wife's name. They were among my parent's bridge friends, though my father considered Bill a "blowhard" - not sure people are using that word anymore but you can pretty much guess what it means.

Thinking of this brings something to mind that I have mulled over frequently.

When I think back to how life for my parents differed from my own, and yours as well, I would guess, is the free time they seemed to have to enjoy life, and the regularity of that life. Dad worked. Mom was a housewife. Dad came home from his job at OSU every day, like clockwork, at, 5:30, and the family ate the dinner that my mother prepared, together -- with no cell phones or other gadgets in our hands - at the kitchen table. They played bridge, as I mentioned above, with a revolving cast of characters, usually couples they knew from our neighborhood or church or Ohio State. Dad bowled once a week, went to all the Ohio State football games and most of the basketball games. We had regular visits, as well, on holidays and sundays, from assorted aunts and uncles and grandparents from my mother's side, who had dinner with us - not in the kitchen, but in the dining room. We visited family from my father's side regularly in Centerburg,  where he had grown up. We took family vacations in the summertime at a friend's country cabin near Athens. In the summer there was also Olympic, which was a short walk across a vacant lot - remember vacant lots? - from our East North Broadway home. I think I have mentioned before, speaking of regularity, that from my bedroom window I could hear the regular "break" broadcast" from Olympic's loudspeaker: "It's now time for the ... o'clock break. Let's have everyone out of the water. The break will not begin until everyone is out of the water. Parents and adults are invited to swim during the break."

Memory makes it all seem idyllic, which it wasn't.Just so different. Just so immensely different from the kind of family life I would go on to have. Mine has been, I'd guess, more chaotic than most of yours. But I'm assuming all of you have likely looked back and noticed how different those times were compared to the culture and the changes and the family life that would overtake us over the years. 

There is - sigh - a lot to be said for rootedness and regularity, and I'm grateful to have had a childhood that reflected those things. We were very lucky, most of us, to have had the measure of them that we did.

 


11/09/19 11:59 AM #6446    

 

Frank Ganley

Frank :black and the catholics

ifield, sinatra , zappa , avalon, frankie goes to hollywood, frankie laine, valli: mary j blige,mary martin, mary wells,


11/09/19 11:59 AM #6447    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

With the slow down approaching (the usaul weekend low in posts) I thought I would pass along, for English Majors,  an E-mail from a friend.   See if you can add a little bit to this.

     No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

     If you don't pay your exorcist, you can get repossessed.

     I'm reading a book about gravity.  I just can't put it down.

     I didn't like my beard at first.  Then it grew on me.

     Did you hear about the cross-eyed teacher who lost his job because he couldn't control his pupils.

     I stayed up all night to see where the sun went, and then it dawned on me.

     I changed my IPod's name to Titanic. It's syncing now.

     Haunted French pancakes give me the crepes.

     This women today said she recognized me from the Vegetarians Club, but I'd swear I've never met herbivore.

     I know a guy who's addicted to drinking brake fluid, but he says he can stop any time.

And for Jim a couple of special "Medical" related.

    When Chemists die, they barium.

     England has no kidney bank, but it does have a Liverpool.

 


11/09/19 12:46 PM #6448    

 

Peggy Southworth (Townley)

Michael McLeod.  Regarding your post about childhood.  My gosh, I so enjoyed reading that.   That is, indeed, a delightful page from my own story. 


11/09/19 01:38 PM #6449    

 

Michael McLeod

And now to shift from sentiment to science since I know that many people are still either unaware of or in denial about this - and you CAN do something about it.

This from today's NYTimes. Nothing new here - I can tell you that because I've been following it for some time, even assigned it to my class as their term paper, and experienced some of the evidence first hand with Hurricane Dorian.

This story puts together what we know, at this point, quite well.

 

By Eugene Linden

Mr. Linden has written widely about climate change.

For decades, most scientists saw climate change as a distant prospect. We now know that thinking was wrong. This summer, for instance, a heat wave in Europe penetrated the Arctic, pushing temperatures into the 80s across much of the Far North and, according to the Belgian climate scientist Xavier Fettweis, melting some 40 billion tons of Greenland’s ice sheet.

Had a scientist in the early 1990s suggested that within 25 years a single heat wave would measurably raise sea levels, at an estimated two one-hundredths of an inch, bake the Arctic and produce Sahara-like temperatures in Paris and Berlin, the prediction would have been dismissed as alarmist. But many worst-case scenarios from that time are now realities.

Science is a process of discovery. It can move slowly as the pieces of a puzzle fall together and scientists refine their investigative tools. But in the case of climate, this deliberation has been accompanied by inertia born of bureaucratic caution and politics. A recent essay in Scientific American argued that scientists “tend to underestimate the severity of threats and the rapidity with which they might unfold” and said one of the reasons was “the perceived need for consensus.” This has had severe consequences, diluting what should have been a sense of urgency and vastly understating the looming costs of adaptation and dislocation as the planet continues to warm.

In 1990, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the United Nations group of thousands of scientists representing 195 countries, said in its first report that climate change would arrive at a stately pace, that the methane-laden Arctic permafrost was not in danger of thawing, and that the Antarctic ice sheets were stable.

 

Relying on the climate change panel’s assessment, economists estimated that the economic hit would be small, providing further ammunition against an aggressive approach to reducing emissions and to building resilience to climate change.

As we now know, all of those predictions turned out to be completely wrong. Which makes you wonder whether the projected risks of further warming, dire as they are, might still be understated. How bad will things get?

So far, the costs of underestimation have been enormous. New York City’s subway system did not flood in its first 108 years, but Hurricane Sandy’s 2012 storm surge caused nearly $5 billion in water damage, much of which is still not repaired. In 2017, Hurricane Harvey gave Houston and the surrounding region a $125 billion lesson about the costs of misjudging the potential for floods.

The climate change panel seems finally to have caught up with the gravity of the climate crisis. Last year, the organization detailed the extraordinary difficulty of limiting warming to 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit (1.5 degrees Celsius), over the next 80 years, and the grim consequences that will result even if that goal is met.

 

More likely, a separate United Nations report concluded, we are headed for warming of at least 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit. That will come with almost unimaginable damage to economies and ecosystems. Unfortunately, this dose of reality arrives more than 30 years after human-caused climate change became a mainstream issue.


The word “upended” does not do justice to the revolution in climate science wrought by the discovery of sudden climate change. The realization that the global climate can swing between warm and cold periods in a matter of decades or even less came as a profound shock to scientists who thought those shifts took hundreds if not thousands of years.

Scientists knew major volcanic eruptions or asteroid strikes could affect climate rapidly, but such occurrences were uncommon and unpredictable. Absent such rare events, changes in climate looked steady and smooth, a consequence of slow-moving geophysical factors like the earth’s orbital cycle in combination with the tilt of the planet’s axis, or shifts in the continental plates.

Then, in the 1960s, a few scientists began to focus on an unusual event that took place after the last ice age. Scattered evidence suggested that the post-ice age warming was interrupted by a sudden cooling that began around 12,000 years ago and ended abruptly 1,300 years later. The era was named the Younger Dryas for a plant that proliferated during that cold period.

At first, some scientists questioned the rapidity and global reach of the cooling. A report from the National Academies of Science in 1975 acknowledged the Younger Dryas but concluded that it would take centuries for the climate to change in a meaningful way. But not everyone agreed. The climate scientist Wallace Broecker at Columbia had offered a theory that changes in ocean circulation could bring about sudden climate shifts like the Younger Dryas.

And it was Dr. Broecker who, in 1975, the same year as that National Academies report playing down the Younger Dryas, published a paper, titled “Climatic Change: Are We on the Brink of a Pronounced Global Warming?” in which he predicted that emissions of carbon dioxide would raise global temperatures significantly in the 21st century. This is now seen as prophetic, but at the time, Dr. Broecker was an outlier.

Then, in the early 1990s, scientists completed more precise studies of ice cores extracted from the Greenland ice sheet. Dust and oxygen isotopes encased in the cores provided a detailed climate record going back eons. It revealed that there had been 25 rapid climate change events like the Younger Dryas in the last glacial period.

The evidence in those ice cores would prove pivotal in turning the conventional wisdom. As the science historian Spencer Weart put it: “How abrupt was the discovery of abrupt climate change? Many climate experts would put their finger on one moment: the day they read the 1993 report of the analysis of Greenland ice cores. Before that, almost nobody confidently believed that the climate could change massively within a decade or two; after the report, almost nobody felt sure that it could not.”

In 2002, the National Academies acknowledged the reality of rapid climate change in a report, “Abrupt Climate Change: Inevitable Surprises,” which described the new consensus as a “paradigm shift.” This was a reversal of its 1975 report.

“Large, abrupt climate changes have affected hemispheric to global regions repeatedly, as shown by numerous paleoclimate records,” the report said, and added that “changes of up to 16 degrees Celsius and a factor of 2 in precipitation have occurred in some places in periods as short as decades to years.”

The National Academies report added that the implications of such potential rapid changes had not yet been considered by policymakers and economists. And even today, 17 years later, a substantial portion of the American public remains unaware or unconvinced it is happening.

 

In the years since, data has shown that both Greenland and Antarctica have been shedding ice far more rapidly than anticipated. Ice shelves, which are floating extensions of land ice, hold back glaciers from sliding into the sea and eventually melting. In the early 2000s, ice shelves began disintegrating in several parts of Antarctica, and scientists realized that process could greatly accelerate the demise of the vastly larger ice sheets themselves. And some major glaciers are dumping ice directly into the ocean.

By 2014, a number of scientists had concluded that an irreversible collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet had already begun, and computer modeling in 2016 indicated that its disintegration in concert with other melting could raise sea levels up to six feet by 2100, about twice the increase described as a possible worst-case scenario just three years earlier. At that pace, some of the world’s great coastal cities, including New York, London and Hong Kong, would become inundated.

Then this year, a review of 40 years of satellite images suggested that the East Antarctic ice sheet, which was thought to be relatively stable, may also be shedding vast amounts of ice.

As the seas rise, they are also warming at a pace unanticipated as recently as five years ago. This is very bad news. For one thing, a warmer ocean means more powerful storms, and die-offs of marine life, but it also suggests that the planet is more sensitive to increased carbon dioxide emissions than previously thought.

The melting of permafrost has also defied expectations. This is ground that has remained frozen for at least two consecutive years and covers around a quarter of the exposed land mass of the Northern Hemisphere. As recently as 1995, it was thought to be stable. But by 2005, the National Center for Atmospheric Research estimated that up to 90 percent of the Northern Hemisphere’s topmost layer of permafrost could thaw by 2100, releasing vast amounts of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere.

For all of the missed predictions, changes in the weather are confirming earlier expectations that a warming globe would be accompanied by an increase in the frequency and severity of extreme weather. And there are new findings unforeseen by early studies, such as the extremely rapid intensification of storms, as on Sept. 1, when Hurricane Dorian’s sustained winds intensified from 150 to 185 miles per hour in just nine hours, and last year when Hurricane Michael grew from tropical depression to major hurricane in just two days.

If the Trump administration has its way, even the revised worst-case scenarios may turn out to be too rosy. In late August, the administration announced a plan to roll back regulations intended to limit methane emissions resulting from oil and gas exploration, despite opposition from some of the largest companies subject to those regulations. More recently, its actions approached the surreal as the Justice Department opened an antitrust investigation into those auto companies that have agreed in principle to abide by higher gas mileage standards required by California. The administration also formally revoked a waiver allowing California to set stricter limits on tailpipe emissions than the federal government.

Even if scientists end up having lowballed their latest assessments of the consequences of the greenhouse gases we continue to emit into the atmosphere, their predictions are dire enough. But the Trump administration has made its posture toward climate change abundantly clear: Bring it on!

It’s already here. And it is going to get worse. A lot worse.


11/09/19 01:56 PM #6450    

 

John Maxwell

Frank, well done, you're in the lead.

Jim, you could have guessed, but your lab reference was just right. Too numerous to count might be a little overstated, but it beats a stab at the answer.

Joe,
You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead.

It takes two to tangle. (The punabriged dictionary.)

11/09/19 01:59 PM #6451    

 

John Maxwell

Mike,
How is it you can cite the NYT, and still walk free in Florida? You are a brave man, bucking the establishment.

11/09/19 02:47 PM #6452    

 

Michael Boulware

Dave,

Our U.K. years were most noted for having the first African American athletes to compete in the Southeastern Conference. We were harassed by the KKK, encountered segregated restrooms and water fountains, racist players ,fans, and officials. We did not realize that we were involved in a social and cultural revolution. One of our black players had his neck broken in a freak accident on the practice field and died. 

A recent documentary was filmed and will be out soon concerning the first blacks in the S.E.C. . It is called "Black In Blue" and should be on PBS soon. 


11/09/19 06:16 PM #6453    

 

David Mitchell

Mike B.,

Absolutely fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing. Where have you been hiding with stories like that? Sounds like there is more where that came from. Kinda reminds me of my arrival in the South (my earlier post about the Shreveport, LA bus station - on the way to Basic trainig at Fort Polk). It's one thing to sit in your comfortable home in Columbus Ohio, watching it on the evening news, but a whole different thing when it's right in your face.

 

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Mike M,

Loved your "family" piece. Heartwarming!  As for that other "warming" - quite an interesting article.

 

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Joe,

Loved your list. Thanks for reminding us that laughter adds value to any conversation.    


11/09/19 06:47 PM #6454    

 

Frank Ganley

To wrestle with the climate change problem. Between 50000 and 100000 years ago the united states entire midwest was covered in ice . In the years leading up to america being settled there was NO ICE covering the entire midwest of  the united atates. Obviously the warming was enought to melt the ice BUT what was the cause since there was no kind of human interferece of any kind. Ok maybe a campfite or two. Who was worrying about greenland losing ice. The ozone hole is completely full. I don't think our changing whatever the propellant in cans of paint or whatever nor we haven't stopped production of of spray cans. Do you realize that one eruption of any volano will spew morecarbon and others gases into the atmosphere in one minute than all the pollutuion all of our cars poison the air in a year.

My dear classmates, raather than worry about our atmoshere we should ifnore the paris accord, china and indea sure ain't in it and take all that meney and try to find a product or process a desert can use that will bring the desert backt to life again.Thank for the read and lets rejoin as a united, friengly, accepting, understanding. Lets have our class being the start of that program       Frank

 

 


11/10/19 11:06 AM #6455    

 

Michael McLeod

Interesting, the perception that some of you have about Florida.

Well guess what?

It's worse than you think.

But it's also better than you think.

Not going to go into it now but when I get some free time (correcting papers and writing article right now - rather, that's what I should be doing) - I'll write up something about the ups and downs of the Sunshine State.


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