David Mitchell
Tim,
Great question! I don't have a very good answer for you - honestly. But as one who believes in Creation, I'd say yes. I'm one of those crazy fools who believes in the "great deceiver" and the fall of man. But I often get into trouble when I ask, "Who was the other first couple ? I mean llke, if Adam and Eve only had three sons. Where did the rest of the human race come from? Someboay else must have had at least one daughter. Or am I missing something here?" Probably not the most endearing question to ask a bunch of evangelical (especially literalist) friends.
Oh, and you should be in the room when I say I believe in evolution - oh boy! You talk about fun?
(BTW - I get in all kinds of trouble with my "literalist" friends when I tell them I beleive in the "Big Bang" theory. But then I always add that I think it was the cleverest thing God ever thought up. I just saw on USA Today a few months back that a lot of scientists are now coming to the conclusion that there had to be some prior force or action to get those gasses to come together at just the right temperature and in just the right location, at just that moment in time. And to that I add my own queston - did "time" exist prior to that moment - Hmmmm?)
LONG ANSWER:
But if I could have been more conscise (damn near impossible for me) in that earlier (long-winded) post, what I was trying to say is that I beleive we are capable of real evil (sin) - (free choice), but so much of organized religion dwells on trivializing stuff that is really not sin, or even evil. And our reaction is often to see right through the silliness of it and react by rejecting anything and everything to do with a religious faith - and with it, even basic morality. (the pendulum effect - as in Mike's article). Sort of like throwing out the baby with the bath water.
A good example would be my three grown kids. All far away from any religion. And they are not stupid.
For example, is is really a sin to miss a Holy Day of Obligation, to kneel or genuflect the "wrong way", or to forget the "proper wording" to begin making a confession? I have nieces and nephews that are in a "Christian" denomination that says its a sin to dance close with the opposite sex. So their church forbids having dances (even at their own wedding) - it's a "sin". Remember, for hundreds of years "Rome" had convinced the great unwashed of Western Europe that if they didn't pay up, their deceased relaltives would be stuck in Purgatory forever. Ridiculous - even in 1950's Our Lady of Peace !
(isn't it actually a real sin to threaten the "faithful" with such outrageous nonsense ?)
We see people running as fast as they can to get away form these churches - and who wouldn't for cryin' out loud? Ever known a "religion" like that?
(An Anglican bishop friend of mine calls it "Faith without Grace" - translated, Religion without Love)
But I do think it is sinful (evil) to lie and cheat, and to be unfaithful, and to tell lies about others, to be mean to others, cruel to children, to take advantge of one another - basically, to harm one another. That to me, is the real stuff. But so much of organized religion dwells more on their rules, their authority, their control over their flock - and on ritual, tradition, and ceremony, instead of the real message of love, faithfulness, honesty, loyalty, charity, and the most powerful form of love - forgiveness. (Oooh, that's a tough one for me! )
But I still think calling a spade a spade is a healthy thing, so long as we are focusing on real stuff. And I don't think guilt is bad either. I may dislike it, but it serves a purpose - a bit like fear serves a purpose (even though I don't like it either). What I do object to is heaping Shame on top of it. And that chases "seekers" to the exits like a fire drill !
Side note: I read somewhere years ago where the research on "religious cult" attrraction was thought to be strongest for two groups - those who grew up with religion forced down their throats, and those who grew up with absolutley no religious training at all.
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