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04/16/18 09:47 PM #3029    

 

Linda Weiner (Bennett)

Dan C., Prayers for you and for your family. May your sister rest in the arms of our loving Father.  

 

 

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Fred, Thanks for story about your dad, another hero.    Regarding demise of coal mines, I'm sure you are correct about industrialization. I thought I remembered Mother saying San Toy mines "ran dry," but other sources report disgruntled workers caused a fire in Sunday Creek mine  #1, which caused nearby buildings to burn. Some years later, the owners of #2 closed it rather than update. 

 

About San Toy:  http://forgottenoh.com/SanToy/santoy.html,

http://www.forgottenoh.com/News/stoy.html, 

 

 

Jim, Enjoy your stories about your Appalachia experiences.

 

Mike, What a piece on unknown black musicians! Enjoyed it. I had same questions as John. 

 

John, That Harlan KY number hurts my heart. 

 

I truly enjoy all posts here even though I don’t reply often.

 


04/16/18 10:39 PM #3030    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Linda,

Thanks for that info on San Toy as an Ohio ghost town. I have a real fascination with the ghost towns in Colorado several of which require 4-wheel drive vehicles to reach. Colorado's mining history is mainly built around gold, in places like Cripple Creek and Victor, silver around Aspen, molybdenum in Clear Creek County and uranium close to Canyon City. But my city, Colorado Springs, which was built by the gold money from Cripple Creek, was coal territory. In fact, the neighborhood in which we live, Rockrimmon, is above old coal mines and ventilation shafts. We were all advised to buy mine subsidence insurance (which we did) back in the early '80's due to a few collapses in some other nearby sections of town. Our house sits a little higher than some close to the old mine entrances and we were told that the mines are about 400 feet below us. So far, so good!

Gunfights were prevalent in our mining towns as they apparently were in San Toy. Cripple Creek, so the legend goes, was home to many saloons, gambling houses, brothels and "one very busy undertaker".

Fires often burned down mining towns, including Cripple Creek, as they were originally all wood buildings. Rebuilding with stone and brick brought back some of them but others were abandoned and became true ghost towns. The danger in exploring these places is that many of the old open air shafts, some of which go down more than a thousand feet, are overgrown with tall grasses and hidden from view. Sometimes signs in the area warn explorers of this but we have still had a few deaths from falls into these holes.

Once I finish another story or two about Appalachia, I"ll post some pictures of old Colorado ghost town ruins here on the Forum. Please tell us more stories about your roots and Ohio's mining history!

Jim

04/17/18 08:52 PM #3031    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

Love your Appalachia stories, and your comments about Colorado mining towns brigns a few other mountian  towns to mind. I don't think most of Americans today can fully appreciate the lives of hardship most miners had - and still have in some cases. But in those days it was really nothing more than brutal slavery.

Of course most folks have heard of Leadville - the "Two Mile High City" (Denver is known as the "Mile HIgh City" to those who are not familiar). Leadville was home to "Leadville Johnny Brown" who was married to "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" from the great broadway play - survivor of the Titanic! Their Denver home (after they got rich and moved down to "civilization") is still located as a museum on Pennsylvannia Street on Capital Hill, near downtown Denver. A fancy house, but not as huge as many expect it to be, and not really a very nice street anymore.

Another interesting mining town is Telluride, home of the now famous ski resort and located in one of the most gorgeous mountain ranges in the Rockies - the San Juans. It's about 7 hours from Denver but so much more beautiful than the Rockies nearer to Denver. I spent the summer of '72 there while beginning my real estate career the year before they began to construct lifts on the mountian. My other best friend from childhood T.D. Smith came out with us and steyed to this day (check out his webisite "TD SmithRealty"). Years ago he dropped all contact with us. I have a hillarious photo from my wedding of he and Tom Litzinger and Keith Groff - if only I could find it. My friend now deals almost exlusively with the Opra's, the Susan St. Antons, the Ralph Laurens (but not allowed to disclose that last name), and an Austrian Prince - seriously.

TD (Tom) lived for a time between marriages in the historic old "Senate Bar", a property he listed and sold and then rented back for a while. I can still remember the day the "investor" walked into the closing in our office back in '72 with peace signs painted on his VW van and $42,000 in cash in his pockets - th eprice of the Senate Bar back then - including priceless antiques - (a foldable roll-away roulette wheel and table, and gobbs of other stuff). The Senate Bar was one of the many active saloons from the late 1800's to about the great depression. They had a young big strong kid about 15 (origianlly from Manassa, Co - south of Alamosa, CO, where Tess (Warrick) McKeon went to college) who washed dishes and kept the place up. It is said that he took his wages out in "services" from the "bar girls" who lived in the "cribs" - mini-houses along the street beside the Saloon. I believe he also was a drug addict, but cleaned himself up later to take full advantage of his one great talent - fist fighting. His name was Jack Dempsey!  The "Manassa Mauler"

Telluride was also know for another famous person. Butch Cassaday was said to be an employee of the mine at the end of the canyon and made his first "withdrawal" from the Bank in Telluride. In fact, when they filmed a  a "prequel"  (the younger years - after the original "B. C. & the Sundance Kid" with Redford and Newman) they filmed a lot of it in Telluride - or "To Hell U Ride" as many called it back in the day. Today the snowfall is worth much more than the gold - and is often referred to in Colorado as "white gold". BTW, the main product of the mine (I think?) was Tellurium, whatever that is - along with some gold and silver. That is where the town got it's name.

Butch Cassaday - (sorry, I don't know how to make these smaller)

 

But one of the most bizarre of Colorado mining town stories was along the "front range" just south of Trinidad - the town of Ludlow.  The miners there lived in such utter poverty and squalor that they struck the mining company - Colorado Fuel and Iron Co. (owned by Rockefeller). Eventually Colorado National Guard and Mining Company guards opend fire and burned the encampment - killing around 60 or 70 men, women, and children. I seem to recall that troops actually opened fire with machine guns from the doors of freight cars which had been brough in with troops on board. My Alma Mater, the Univ. of Denver has been excavating and documenting the site for several years. This is one of the lesser known incidnecess of violence against miners and yet is considered perhaps the most violent and cruel of them all. It is known as "The Ludlow Massacre" in 1914.


04/17/18 08:53 PM #3032    

 

David Mitchell

Sad to hear the news of Barbara Bush. Saw it while I was writing this. Figured it was coming since Jim Nance told me several nights ago in the car at the golf tournament. 

 

** Couldn't help myself - just had to add this comment.

Asked once in and interview about  Sarah Palin she (Barbara Bush) said: "I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful. And I think she's very happy in Alaska. And I hope she'll stay there."


04/17/18 11:58 PM #3033    

 

Linda Weiner (Bennett)

Prayers for repose of soul of Barbara Bush & for those who loved her!  

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As someone suggested some time back, I posted a pic from around early 80s...a K-Mart special.  

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Sad stories about mining towns. My mother's parents struggled to provide for their family. Mother loved school but quit in 7th grade—she had no clothes to wear she said. She left home to live with her married sister, in Zanesville. Grandad had broken his back twice and was unable to work. This meant he could not keep his mining job, at least for a time. Not sure how the farming got done, now that I think about it.

Jim, the foundations in the Santoy link are so overgrown they can't be found without knowing the exact location, as we experienced on the last visit several years ago. My uncle owed that jailhouse in the 60s—used it for getaway "cabin." It is looking quite dilapidated these days & maybe has been destroyed.

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Keep the stories coming!

 

 


04/18/18 04:07 PM #3034    

 

Linda Weiner (Bennett)

 

 Re-posted from “Perry County history and genealogy”

Facebook page:

 

Perry County  Times Recorder, April 23, 1917 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


04/18/18 04:57 PM #3035    

 

Fred Clem

Linda,

One of the worst aspects of coal mining, especially in the more remote areas of Appalachia, was "Company Towns".  Lynch, Kentucky (in Harlan County) was the largest of them all.  At its zenith, it had 10,000 residents, 4,000 employees and their families.  Every square inch was owned by U. S. Coal and Coke Co., a division of the U. S. Steel Co..  Here's an exerpt from a history of Lynch:

 While considered one of Appalachia's model coal camps due to its' company provided health care, education, churches, housing, social services, wages and benefits and recreation, it was still a closed community where the company carefully controlled all aspects of the political and economic process.  The company had their own police force and it was used to keep union organizers out of the coal camp and to intimidate miners who tried to join the Portal 31-1926union.  Throughout the 1920s and well into the 1930s the company along with many Kentucky coal producers did everything in their power to prevent unionization.  This action by the coal companies and the actions of the miners earned Harlan County the name of "Bloody Harlan".

 

If you quit or were fired, you were homeless because the companies owned every house.   The rent was deducted from your wages and you bought groceries, clothing, appliances and other necessities at the "Company Store".  You were paid with "Script" instead of money.  The workers had very little freedom.  The company was "Lord and Master" over them.  The plight of miners in these company towns was chronicled in Ernie Ford's song "Sixteen Tons".

"Sixteen Tons" link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zE1-48AAYc


04/18/18 09:05 PM #3036    

 

David Mitchell

Mike,

Do tell!  You mean to tell me you actually got paid to write stories? Wow, I guess I never had put two and two together before this.

I'm thinkin' maybe I should try that "banging my head on the roll top desk" thing. Sounds like it might help. Ceptin' I ain't got no roll top desk. Dang it !

 


04/20/18 12:33 AM #3037    

 

David Mitchell

It's now 12:05. 

So it's officially time to wish Janie a specail Happy Birthday!

And in honor of this crazy addiction you've enslaved us with, Fred and Tim and Jack and Mike and Mark, and Larry, and Frank, and Clare and Mary Margaret and I have been practicing a little special birthday arrangement just or you. I suggest you go down to one of those beachfront "tourista" bars and get stinking drunk on Margaritas, dance with our Mariachi band guys, and make a complete fool of yourself - all day long!

Hope you enjoy our music - we've been practicing for weeks. And thanks again girl for all you've done for our gang.

(psst - Frank is the handsome one in purple - beside MMargret and Clare)



 


04/20/18 11:58 AM #3038    

 

Deborah Alexander (Rogers)

Happy Birthday, Janie!  Hope you have a wonderful day and healthy year. Thanks for all you do, especially creating and managing this forum, which we all so enjoy!

Debbie


04/20/18 01:04 PM #3039    

 

Frank Ganley

Janie happy birthday


04/20/18 01:12 PM #3040    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Janie,

Have a great 70th and enjoy a Margarita as you become a septuagenarian!

Jim

04/20/18 03:15 PM #3041    

 

Daniel Cody

Happy birthday and wish you the best


04/20/18 03:21 PM #3042    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

 

 

 


04/20/18 04:15 PM #3043    

Timothy Lavelle

Jane,

Thank you for getting me addicted to this crack cocaine form of pop literature. Smile and try to live up to the Class of 66 motto.

"Party till you puke".

Maybe that was the alternate motto...


04/20/18 08:38 PM #3044    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Appalachia: No Joy in Mudville Tonight

It was a dark and stormy night.

In fact, it really was. Of course, unless one lives in the far north during the summer, all nights are pretty dark. But on this March night in 1972 the rain and snow mix seemed to make it darker and caused the dirt roads in Meigs County to be quite muddy.

As the County Coroner Doc Pickens got the call at about 1 AM, notified me and I met him at his office/home. He drove us  out "in the country" and down one of those muddy roads to a small cabin in front of which was an emergency vehicle. Inside were two EMT's (I doubt there were paramedics in Meigs County at that time) who were doing CPR on an obviously dead, blue, newborn infant. Concerned parents hovered closely around the scene. Doc checked the child and established the fact that the boy was deceased. The EMT's had done their best and, with the doctor's permission, CPR was discontinued.

Taking me aside Doc whispered that the child would need an autopsy. He stated that in some cases these poor families may take drastic measures when they can't afford another mouth to feed and, well, kill the baby. Doc knew his limits as coroner and this case needed an experienced pathologist to make that determination. He asked that I drive the body up to OSU Hospital and arrange the autopsy. I answered that I would do that first thing in the morning. He responded, "No, I mean do it tonight, Jim."

We placed the infant's small body in a plasic bag and went back to his office where Doc's wife, Mary, was waiting. Mary was a Catholic and when she saw the the lifeless child she asked me if we should baptize the boy. We had no idea of what the parent's religious beliefs were but after a short discussion we did proceed to pour water over the child's head and say the words of baptism. We reasoned that it could not hurt and it felt right. Doc tossed me the keys to his Cadillac insisting that I take his car instead of my old Ford.

With the nameless child in the trunk of the Caddy I headed out for the 2 hour or so drive to Columbus. About 30 minutes into the journey I started thinking about that drive along the Ohio River when I was stopped by the officer (see post #3022). I was now out of Meigs County and out of Doc's domain. There I was, a young city boy driving someone else's Cadillac of which I had no registration, in Appalachia, in the middle of the night, with a dead baby in a plastic bag in the trunk. I slowed down, took an extra hour to get to the University and did not cross any yellow lines.

I arrived at the Pathology Department about 6 AM and talked with the pathologist who was quite accommodating, said he would conduct the autopsy and release the body to me later that afternoon with the report.

He notified me about 5 or 6 PM so I picked up the remains and drove back to Pomeroy. The conclusion was that the infant was indeed stillborn and there was no evidence of foul play.

When I arrived back at the office Mary informed me that Doc was at a gathering in Parkersburg and wanted me to join him. I took the Caddy, headed across the river and joined the party. I isolated Doc and gave him the news. He thanked me and said "I suppose you dropped off the body at the funeral home." (there was only one in town). I responded with a slight laugh "Of couse, you wouldn't expect me to have left him in the trunk now, would you?".

Unnoticed, I slipped out the back door, returned to Pomeroy, found the funeral parlor, surrendered the baby to the mortuary personnel and returned to Parkersburg before anyone had missed me.

Case closed.

Jim.

 


04/20/18 09:17 PM #3045    

 

David Mitchell

Sounds like there may be another book in our group Jim. The world is a strange and interesting place.


04/20/18 09:44 PM #3046    

 

David Mitchell

I would have posted this sooner but I was out all day. Didn't want anyone to miss this point;

Back on my "Mariachi Post" (#3045) - -  if you look real close, I'm pretty sure that's John Jackson in the back row playing his tin whistle.

Oh, BTW - John informs me there are no Mariachi bands in Doolin, nor anywhere in County Clare for that matter. So maybe we could book the Chieftains at a club in Puerto Vallarta instead. Janie could fly us all down there for our 55th - or maybe it would have to be the 60th. I guess we're already booked for Donna's in Barcelona for 55 aren't we? I've already got my toothbrush and sleeping bag packed. 

Then for the 65th, I say we serve cheese sandwiches out on the terrrace at St. Joseph's Cemetary chapel. (soft cheese that is - and with the crust cut off). And John could bring his tin whistle - if he can still get up enough breath to blow on it. Damn, I'm lookin' forward to that! 


04/22/18 09:59 PM #3047    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

It has been two days since the last entry on this Forum - very unusual! So, I'll add something here that does not necessarily involve anything specific to Appalachia.

A while ago we were discussing cannabis and periodically, that topic recurs. From a medical standpoint I had said that some components of marijuana were undergoing research for certain conditions such as intractable (mainly pediatric) seizure syndromes. This past week the FDA approved cannabadiol, a non-psychoactive phytocannabinoid, under the brand name Epidiolex, for such disorders.

After such approval there will be a number of post-marketing studies to see if it is as efficacious as the pre-marketing trials indicated. Also what the long term side effects may be. Hopefully, it will be a good drug. It is definitely not a cure but seems to significantly reduce the number of daily seizures that occur in these children.

Stay tuned...

Jim

04/23/18 11:10 AM #3048    

 

Michael McLeod

It's interesting to me that marijuana has been percieved as a danger for so long in our culture, though that view is finally changing.

And opiods, which have been responsible for tremendous tragedies that are still ongoing, were accepted by the medical mainstream and made drug companies -- one in particular -- millions of dollars. 

As you know, pot is palliative and has been used, with or without a prescription, by people who were in pain, including cancer patients. I find myself wondering if the opiod epidemic could have been avoided had we been more accepting of pot, had it been legalized and incorporated into medical practice sooner. 

I see this as a cultural blindspot. I also see it as an issue in which making money took precedence over the welfare of patients. There have been, as you probably know, stories about the rush to sell medications that turned out to be addictive and helped to create the opiod epidemic.

Something tells me you may have a different view.  I am wondering what your view might be. Do you, as a doctor, have any thoughts, suspicious, judgements about the dangers of "Big Pharm"?  And my little theory about what might have been if we hadn't been so quick to judge pot?


04/23/18 11:17 AM #3049    

 

Frank Ganley

Jim, thank you for the update on cannabis and its many uses. Let us also remember that the Lord gave us this plant and its primary use is in its natural state without any add-ins, add-ons or processing it in many ways. There has been a huge push for its passage of medical marijuana and there are many cases here in Florida that have documented the use in treatment for children with all kinds of seizures and this as Dr. Jim says,"it's not a cure but it sure helps those suffering from these seizures. Once the excuse the pun, drug companies start their research it will prove to contain many compounds as medicines. Dupont, Eli Lilly et all are chomping at the bit for discoveries. Though the cotton industry is nervous as the hemp plant makes longer lasting, stronger fibers than any cotton strain, even the cotton grown in Beauford SC. Civil War fun fact about Beauford my wife and I learned while staying in the Cuthbert House and taking the worst ghost tour in the world but the greatest history tour you could take. Marijuana is no longer only used by stoners but a preferred pain medicine over opiate by us old folks who have long preached about its gifts to the world. For those of you who do not smoke , try an edible when in a state that its legal. You may give up drinking


04/23/18 12:41 PM #3050    

 

John Maxwell

I may be wrong, it has happened, but pot is on the list of class one dangerous narcotics, as it is a line item in the NATO, AOS and SEATO treaties. It is subject to all those international rules, laws, statutes etc. Til the laws are changed by all the signatories, then the U.S. Govt. is obliged to regard pot as a most ruinous and dangerous drug. Getting NATO, et al to change this law might relax the status in this country. However there is a significant portion of our population who drank the "pot bad" koolaid who have sway over the federal laws. In the streets I've seen it's becomes a matter of personnel judgement and not the law, at least until the laws changes. In the meantime Jefferson Beauregard Sessions is coming for you pot smokers. I'm not one to promote sedition, but I for one, am kinda tired of living on the peaks and valleys of political whims and a money driven judicial system.

04/23/18 02:18 PM #3051    

Timothy Lavelle

This morning on the Today show they did a quick story about an ex-NFL guy taking a comic photo holding a gun while standing between his daughter and her Prom date. This humor is as old as fatherhood but in our tense country people are upset, calling it insensitive. A viewer e-mailed the show to say "This is not worth getting upset over" ...a point of view I agree strongly with. I only bring this to your attn because the viewer's name was shown as Mike Mcleod! Total truth.

 Medicinal pot will become a worldwide tool depending largley on its efficacy in each case. It will surely take a long time.

Pot "for fun" will always remain subjective because of its frightening ability to make normal people think very paranoid thoughts. That, and the normal fear any parent has for a child experimenting with anything from fast cars to fast women. But as long as some people get born with any sense of daring, or a willingness to experiment, we will have marijuana to deal with. Thankfully!  


04/23/18 03:14 PM #3052    

 

David Mitchell

Frank,

Beaufort SC?   The Cuthbert Inn?

It would appear that you are openly admitting your contact with a pair of citiznes of this Confederate town. I won't expose them by last name but they may be a particlular couple who go by the names of Mary Ann and Jeff. This is actually a pair of Yankees appearing to be Southerners. They have been formerly Innkeeprs who welcomed any and all visitors - even with such suspicious names as Tom Berenger, Andi MacDowell, and various local dignitaries. And furthermore, they have actually been known to go to such extremes as to take an aging Vietnam "Loach" pilot to a (wondeful) local trendy restaurant. Their hospitality seems to have no shame.

As for Ghost Tours. Doesn't every Southern city have one?  I think American toursists will buy anything if you package it right. The ones in nearby Savannah and Charleston do millions o f dollars every year.

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We here in Beaufort County have a very highly respected Conservative Republican State Representative who is actively pushing (against heavy odds) to get medical marijauna legalized, and he cites some pretty compelling scientific eveidnece for his arguement.

That much I would agree with. But I am still not a believer in "recreational'. I have experienced a case of one (believe it or not) "Loach" pilot in my platoon in Vinh Long who was a flying accident waiting to happen until he admitted his habit and was removed from flight status. The slowing down of reflexes seems to be quite similar to alcohol - or is that just my percepetion? And isn't there a noticeable drop in a person's motivation? That is something I believe I have witnessed in the case of several friends. They beame so "mellow" that they could no longer show up for work.  

And I would argue with anyone about the "gateway drug" argument. That is an issue of simple human physicology - with many different variations of effects on many different people's bodies. For some it is not the case at all. But for some it clearly is. As I mentioned earlier, my older cousin Jim ran a drug crisis center just north of OSU camus years ago and he said a majority (not all) of the more serious drug addictions started with pot.

* (befoe you jump on this please read what I said - "MANY - NOT ALL"). It all acts differently in each indivudual body - as with many chemical reactions). That simple scientific fact was made crystal clear to me by my Dad in his medical practice. 

I also am sadly aware of the effects of driving while under the influence - something that no roadside test seems to be able to detect - as is the case with alcohol. I knew a lady from a Colorado town who's father was a pillar of the community, but is now a parpalegic, after being broadsided by a car driven by a young girl who moved to Grand Junction, Colorado specifically so she could smoke "legally".

But I guess we stiil don't have any laws against stupidity in this country - duh!   


04/23/18 03:25 PM #3053    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Marijuana has been used for many different ailments including glaucoma, all kinds of pain syndromes, seizures and chemotherapy induced nausea and vomiting (CINV). Even though there have been several good studies and meta-analysis the data of it's efficacy is slim at best and mostly confusing.

There are >400 individual chemical compounds in MJ of which >60 are psychoactive agents (THC being the most psychoactive one). The THC content of "today's" pot is much, much higher than that of the 1960's.

Plants have always been a source of finding chemicals that have medicinal value and I do expect that science will find some useful ones in cannabis species over time. Epidiolex is an example.

There are, of course, many testamonials and anecdotal reports of the benefits of marijuana, but those are not scientific studies. What the current good research studies have shown is that pot itself (with all of it's 400 chemicals) does not seem to help glaucoma, has conflicting but perhaps minimal efficacy for CINV and chronic neuropathic (nerve malfunction and nerve compression) pain and probably no effect on nociceptive (arthritis etc.) pain. We really need more and better studies on the individual components of cannabis, done with various potentially therapeutic doses, compared with placebo and currently accepted therapies in double blinded trials.

As for "Big Parma",I have mixed views. I despise the fact that for many drugs they charge way too much even after their research and development costs have been recovered. It is my feeling that patents should be longer than 7 years, perhaps 15, so that initial R&D expenses could be spread out and recovered slower. The strides that Big Pharmaceutical companies have made in developing not only new drugs, but also new categories of drugs to combat diseases that were essentially untreatable just a few years ago is amazing. Biologicals, anti-virus agents, monoclonal antibodies, various kinase inhibitors and now gene altering therapies (some of which may present ethical issues) are changing rapidly how medicine is practiced but at astronomical costs.

The FDA is also an agency with which I have likes and dislikes. We certainly need protection from placing drugs for widespread use on the market that are untested for both efficacy and safety. But is the process too lengthy? That depends on your viewpoint. If you or a loved one is suffering from a painful or terminal illness, a possibly helpful treatment can't be approved fast enough. On the other hand, we don't want another thalidomide disaster like America avoided in the 1940's.

As a health care professional I always wanted to help my patients and not do them any harm. Sometimes that required me to say no to some of their requests and demands. That became more difficult when computers and the internet arrived on the scene. It has often been said that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Unfortunately, the press and some websites sometimes offer a little knowledge. For many headlines that I read in the newspapers there are 8 page articles in medical journals that say the opposite.

I don't want to compare opioids to cannabis as I look at the two as totally different in their medical uses. But, for one thing, an opiate is usually composed of one chemical, not hundreds, and we know a lot about that chemical. Where medicine and pharmaceuticals have erred, in my opinion, is in creating long acting narcotic products. Short acting narcotics, such as morphine, are invaluable tools for pain control and are probably underused. As doctors we should have had better training on the proper use of such agents but now I believe that is changing. At least I hope so.

I think we all need to keep open minds about the potential benefits - and harms - of cannabis as well as opioids.

Jim

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