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01/23/21 02:45 PM #8884    

 

David Mitchell

I sent this email to a bunch of guys, including some on this Forum. So forgive me the repetion guys (you know who you are). And apologies for the repeated theme them here on the Forum, but I enjoyed Peggy's Story so much I thought this would fit in with the some fun memories from back in the day.  

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Baseball.

 
Hank Aaron was one of my all-time favorite players. I was a teenager in Columbus Ohio in the 60’s  and crazy about baseball. The first time I got my own ball glove (about age 7 as I recall) I actually took it to bed with me.
 
I watched the “Game of the Week” every Saturday on TV with Dizzy Dean and Pee Wee Reece announcing. 
 
I had a favorite player - Ernie Banks of the Cubs. But I also loved Hank Aaron. 
And I loved and Mickey Mantle and Willy Mays, and Harmon Killebrew, and Rocky Colavito. 
 
And I LOVED watching great pitchers, so I worshipped Sandy Koufax and Bob Gibsen.  
 
I got to see Hank Aaron play twice, once in Milwaukee and once in Atlanta. When I saw him in Milwaukee, they played the Cubs, so I was getting to watch Ernie Banks play against Hank Aaron in the same game. 
It doesn't’ get much better than that! 
 
(Well, watching Herb Score pitch for Cleveland against Whitey Ford (Yankees)  - in my first ever big league game - with John Jackson - comes close.)
 
In Columbus we had a minor league team, the Columbus Jets,  AAA farm club for the Pittsburgh Pirates. And back then they played in an old stadium in an old industrial part of town. The stadium was known as - - wait for it - - “Jet Stadium”.
(It had once been “Redbird Stadium" and later became “Clippers” Stadium named for each of the team franchises). The Clippers were the last one in the old stadium when later we became Yankees AAA club, so George Steinbrenner would show up from time to time - occasionally un-escorted and un-announced - to watch the younger guys play.
 
I have a fun memory of one Sunday afternoon game at Jet Stadium. My Dad took me out to see a game and we had seats way down the first base line, out  in shallow right field. I wanna say it was against the Rochester “Red Birds”  (with a young chubby red-head first-baseman named “Boog Powell).
 
I was telling Dad about this new rookie right-fielder standing not far out in front of us. He was a big barrel-chested Black guy who had just come up from Asheville in the AA league. He was going to be a good one I told Dad. The sports newspapers said he was so promising that “he might not last the summer in Columbus - on his way up to Pittsburgh”. 
 
The first hitter for Rochester hit a routine fly ball out our way and this new kid only needed to take a few steps before he could simply camp under the ball - which he did - and the ball popped into, and right out of the center of his glove. Error - man on base.
 
The next hitter hit an almost identical fly ball and we watched the ”new kid” stand under it and let it hit the center of his glove. Any yes, dropped it - again!
 
So Dad turns two me and says, “Your’e right. I don’t think he will “last the summer here in Columbus."
 
In fact he didn’t. But not as Dad had predicted. By mid-summer he had been “called up” to Pittsburg, where he stayed for about 18 years. 
 
Oh by the way, the kid’s name was Willy Stargell.
 
 
As we look back on Hank Aaron’s carreer. It brings a certain fond memory. But it was his character in the face of all that racist hatred that makes him so much greater than just a magnificent baseball player. 
 
We’ve come through a year that makes his challenged life stand out as reminder of how broken and backward we are as a nation. And how much we need God’s healing Grace.
 
Don’t ya wish we had a million 'Hammerin’ Henrys’? 
But we only got one - so maybe our Creator is asking each of us to ”pitch in”.

 


01/23/21 03:45 PM #8885    

 

Michael McLeod

Used to listen to Jets games at night, under the covers with a tiny plastic radio. 


01/23/21 04:34 PM #8886    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Do any of you Jets baseball fans remember those big, circular, metal "Junior Jet" badges we kids could wear on our shirts so as to get into the games for fifty cents (or was it free?) when accompanied by a parent? 

Also, do you remember that hole in the centerfield fence that if a batter hit the ball through it he would win big $$$ (I can't recall the exact amount, maybe $10,000)?

 

Jim

 

 


01/23/21 05:27 PM #8887    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

John, I shared the news of the protest at the Cathedral because I felt it newsworthy to members of the Forum as it happened in the city where we all grew up.  Please make no assumpttions.


01/23/21 06:54 PM #8888    

 

John Jackson

MM, assumptions or not, the behavior by the protesters you described was deplorable in every sense.


01/23/21 10:17 PM #8889    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

John J. et al,

Since we are still on the topic of the Cathedral invasion in Columbus:

I am glad we can once again agree to disagree. Perhaps the term "war on religion" was a bit too bold and maybe the word "attacks" would be more appropriate, since a war usually requires some kind of declaration.  But, then again, all the wars that America has fought since WWII have been undeclared by Congress. And wars are usually fought by a series of attacks and battles. 

It seems obvious to me that organized religion, especially Catholicism, Evangelical Christians and others who adhere to Judeo-Christian values are subject to mockery, ridicule and disdain from those who do not agree with the tenents and beliefs of those who are members of such faiths.

Am I alone in this way of thinking? I would like to hear from other classmates if they think religion is under attack.

Jim 


01/23/21 11:06 PM #8890    

 

Michael McLeod

I think the country is getting more diverse in terms of belief systems. 

And statistics indicate that church attendance has ebbed.

But millions still worship and no one is stopping them.

And the government sanctioned tax breaks for churches are firmly in place.

If there is a war it's a rhetorical/political one. That phrase itself, "war on religion" goes back several years in that regard. 

There has, however, been a troubling spate of vandelism and attacks on mosques, synagogues, and churches, including one close at hand down here where a crazy man drove his car into the catholic church where my girlfriend's aunt worships.

Overall, in spite of the increasing diversity of spirituality and humanistic perspectives in this country, I'd say there's still a greater cultural stigma about being an atheist than there is about being devout and affiliated with a belief otherwise in our culture. I've seen the "secular humanism" descriptor used as a derogatory on this site and wondered to myself what's so bad about either one of those outlooks.

Finally, I'd be interested to see how Biden's devout Catholicism - his version of it, at least - becomes a political football over the next four years. Be nice if the pope comes for a visit during his term.

From a recent analysis:

"There are myriad changes with the incoming Biden administration. One of the most significant: a president who has spent a lifetime steeped in Christian rituals and practices.

Mr. Biden, perhaps the most religiously observant commander in chief in half a century, regularly attends Mass and speaks of how his Catholic faith grounds his life and his policies.

And with Mr. Biden, a different, more liberal Christianity is ascendant: less focused on sexual politics and more on combating poverty, climate change and racial inequality.

His arrival comes after four years in which conservative Christianity has reigned in America’s highest halls of power, embodied in white evangelicals laser-focused on ending abortion and guarding against what they saw as encroachments on their freedoms. Their devotion to former President Donald J. Trump was so fervent that many showed up in Washington on Jan. 6 to protest the election results.

Mr. Biden’s leadership is a repudiation of the claim by many conservative leaders that Democrats are inherently anti-Christian."

 

 

 


01/24/21 06:35 AM #8891    

 

Michael McLeod

One more interesting clip from the news feed. Get your shots folks. Getting my first injection tomorrow.

 

 

"sars-CoV-2 had been remarkably stable as it coursed around the world, being so well adapted to the human host. This stability allowed the development of vaccines that are finely targeted for vulnerable regions of the virus’s spike protein. In February, 2020, a new variant emerging from Italy proved to be more infectious than the original Wuhan variant. Scientists were on guard, expecting an assault of new mutations. “We were getting sequencing up and running” to detect new variants, Gregory Armstrong, the director of the Advanced Molecular Detection program at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told me. “Then for ten months, it was crickets.”

Last September, just as the first vaccine candidates were undergoing their Phase III trials, an aggressive new variant began circulating in southeast England, centered in Kent, along the highway from London to Dover. On Halloween, England announced a monthlong lockdown, which was dramatically successful in curbing the spread of covid-19 in other parts of the country, but not in the Kent corridor. There were already a number of distinct variants of the novel coronavirus, with a few genetic variations of little consequence. But the U.K. variant, initially labelled a “Variant Under Investigation,” contained twenty-three different mutations, including several on the spike protein; moreover, it was rapidly driving out competitors and becoming the predominant virus in the country, especially among younger people. On December 18th, it was upgraded to a “Variant of Concern.”

What made the U.K. variant so much more successful than the original virus? One possibility is pure chance. It could have been amplified through some superspreader event, like the variant that took root at an employee conference at the Boston biotech firm Biogen, in February, 2020, which eventually accounted for more than three hundred thousand infections. Or perhaps it got seeded in a school or a church, and spread rapidly among a tightly knit population. But, as researchers went back and studied the growth of the U.K. variant’s mutations through serum samples, they realized that neither of these hypotheses could account for the accelerated pace of the spread. “Some mathematicians modelled how the variant has spread, and they found it was between forty and seventy per cent more infectious,” John Brooks, the chief medical officer at the Centers for Disease Control’s covid-19 Emergency Response, told me. The current hypothesis is that the Kent variant, now called B.1.1.7, has a mutation that switched an amino acid in the spike protein, allowing it to bind more tightly to the body’s ace2 receptors. “That means it takes less virus to infect you,” Brooks said. “That tighter binding also means that it can replicate more efficiently.” Once infected with the new variant, a person will be shedding more virus than someone infected with another variant. “It’s a wicked cycle,” Brooks observed. B.1.1.7 quickly spread to dozens of countries. The ongoing mystery is why it is not more fatal, given its increased viral load. It may be just a matter of luck.

 
 

01/24/21 09:54 AM #8892    

 

John Jackson

Jim, you and I have disagreed strenuously on political matters but I would never in any way mock or criticize you for taking your Catholicism seriously.  But it does surprise me that you seem to think your political outlook is the only one compatible with Catholicism given the fact that there are many, many devout Catholics (among them my own sister Liz, a Dominican nun, and our current pope) who take a very different view.


01/24/21 10:37 AM #8893    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

John,

Wow, I do not recall that I ever said that those with other political views do not take their Catholicism seriously. However, when high profile figures profess publically support for something as serious as abortion, I do believe that they are treading on shaky ground.

That being said, there is no excuse for attacks on religions and people who adhere to Catholic and Christian teachings.

Jim


01/24/21 12:03 PM #8894    

Joseph Gentilini

Regarding the issue as to whether religion is under attack in this country, I do not believe it is.  In fact, I believe the evangelical and conservative churches are impinging on my rights as a gay man.

 

However.....what occurred at st. Joseph's Cathedral in Columbus was wrong.  If these individuals believe so strongly in their position of being pro-choice, that is their right to object, work to make changes, etc., through the pollitical process.  But once they try to disrupt others who do not share their beliefs, especially in a church, etc., they have stepped over a line I do not support.


01/24/21 12:59 PM #8895    

 

Michael McLeod

I'm hoping they charge those guys with something. Trespassing at the very least. 

Or maybe they already have. I hope. Wouldn't ordinarily want to punch a guy in the nose in church but in this case I'd make an exception.

Nope just checked the dispatch. Cops came and ran them out but no charges judging from the story I saw. Yet.


01/24/21 02:14 PM #8896    

 

John Jackson

Jim, I totally accept that there is absolutely “no excuse for attacks on religions and people who adhere to Catholic and Christian teachings”.  And if your main concern in this discussion is about abortion, I completely respect that also.  But people who take their Catholicism/Christianity (or other religion) seriously come down on many other issues in many different places.  And if others take issue with the positions they take, that should not be interpreted as an attack on their religion.


01/25/21 12:19 PM #8897    

 

Michael McLeod

Jim: You asked for a report about any after-effect of my covid 19 shot this morning and I thought I'd answer you here rather than via email, and flesh it out in terms of the whole experience in case anyone else is interested.

I thought I was going to get Moderna but they had switched to Pfizer. Fine by me. 

It was quite the spectacle, the whole affair - not sure what the staging of this thing has been like elsewhere, but the operation down here in Orlando may well be the largest in the country. It is at the massive ghost town called the Orange County Convention Center. I say ghost town because conveniently, the convention business is zilch, thanks to the virus, so we had the run of the place. There was plenty of room on the grounds for hundreds of cars to line up, surely at least a thousand on the winding roads around the center, leading to the massive garage beneath it where our shots awaited us.

First traffic jam in my life I was grateful to be a part of.

I had made an appointment via an internet site weeks ago. You had to have one, you couldn't just show up, and they had people posted at points along the road to confirm everybody's name and info via a verification stamp they had emailed out to us. This was only for folks over 65 so it was a pretty crusty looking crowd. The line of cars moved slowly enough and stood still long enough that now and then an old codger or two got caught napping and had to be roused. We all stayed in our cars through the whole thing, start to finish, and got our shots through the windows of our cars, after answering a few check-in questions, when we got to the garage underneath the convention center. 

Really well organized. Tracking every individual and every shot -- somewhere in a computer bank they've got my name, birthdate, address, phone number and time my shot was delivered.  I made a point to look everybody in the eye and thank them along the way, from the first wayside check-in to the dude who administered the stick when I got to the end of the line and rolled down the window. I didn't actually say "thanks for quite possibly saving my life" but that was sure as hell the point I was trying to make. 

As you pulled out at the other end of the garage after getting your shot they made you park in a big lot on the far side and wait for 10 minutes to see if anybody had a serious reaction - a rare, very rare event - before they got back on the road. It took me about two hours to get the shot, start to finish.

And that's the story of the most important drive-in I've ever been to. 

I've heard just a very few stories of soreness and headaches or fatigue post-shot -- but it's been four hours now since I got home and other than just a wee bit of stiffness in the arm and the typical soreness in my shoulder around the muscle where I got the shot, I've had no reaction -- well not unless you call a great sigh of relief a reaction.

As you know it takes a couple of weeks for the t-lymphocytes and antibodies to get the message and start doing their thing and even then you only get about 50% immunity from that first shot; it's not until after the second shot, which I'll go back for in three weeks, that it gradually builds up to 95% or somewhere in that neighborhood. And even then you're advised to continue wearing masks to protect others in case you have unknowingly contracted a light load of the virus prior to your shot or shortly afterwards - and are asymptomatic and therefore, theoretically, a potential carrier who can unwittingly "shed" the virus with a sneeze or whatever and give it to others. Sounds like a remote possibility to me but I'll do as I'm told.

I say all this and post it for the benefit of our classmates, knowing that when you read it, Jim, you'll correct any layman errors I have made.


01/25/21 12:45 PM #8898    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

At this point I have only two things to say.

For any of you that feel that any of my postings offended you, "I'm sorry about what I said when I was hungry."

Second:  "I don't care what anyone thinks of me.  Except dogs, I want dogs to like me."

Have a wonderful day; if that doesn't offend anyone.

Oh lighten uo, it's a joke.

Joe


01/25/21 12:48 PM #8899    

 

David Mitchell

To my way of thinking, Religion and Politics can make for a dangerous mix.

What disturbs me (acually, scares the livin' bejesus out of me) is when American Christians, or may I call them "psuedo-christians", (there is a difference - read; self righteous, holier-than-thou, finger pointing) zealots attach a level of divinity to political figures - or any popular social figures for that matter.

We all know people in the public eye (and I know some personally in my church) who refer to certain figures as "God -sent", or  "on a mission from God".  We sure heard it in these last four years - Franklin Graham, Pat Roberson, Robert Jeffress, and Paula White, one of those "Prosperity Theology" preachers who, I believe are as far off base as anything I have heard in my life time. 

And we've long done this in the Catholic church. Remember those 5th grade Baltimore Catechism questions about the Cathoilic Church being "the one true church". (back when we spoke abput some of us having non-Catholic parents)

So easy to get lost in traditon, philosophy, dogma, and ceremony - even Theology. Who's right and who's wrong? Who knows better? Who has the correct answer?

But I don't worship a philospohy, a history, a set of rules - and certainly not a Pope, or a bishop, or a priest. And I don't worship a "religion". I think all that misses the point. 

I am one of those who believes that Christ came to free us from "religion". His message is about Hope, Renewal, Forgiveness, and Love - not about winning.

We can argue politics all day long (and I obviously love to). And yes, we should apply some moral standards to the candidates and issues. But placing a mantle of divinity around our politicians shoulders is very frightening.  

We needn't worry that Jesus never ran in a primary, or never attended a single fund raiser. But we should never forget that when they came to get Him, he never raised a finger to stop them.


01/25/21 12:53 PM #8900    

 

David Mitchell

Joe,

Though I loved his comedy, you and I would take umbrage with the great W.C. Fields, who once said, "A man who hates dogs and babies can't be all bad."

 

The trouble with dogs is that we fall in love with them.


01/25/21 06:52 PM #8901    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Time for a Visual Break

Snowing again today with more expected tonight. 

I love snow.

I love some dogs.

I don't mind shoveling snow.

I do mind shoveling after dogs.

That's why I don't have a dog.

I love icicles as the snow melts. 

Dog poop doesn't melt.

Icicles photograph well.

Enough said.

Jim

 

 

 

 


01/25/21 11:44 PM #8902    

 

Michael McLeod

Beautifully written Jim. I had no idea you could be so eloquent. The lyrical rhythms. The universal theme.

 


01/26/21 11:07 AM #8903    

 

Michael McLeod

Joe. My memory is fuzzy. Did you live on East North Broadway?


01/26/21 12:08 PM #8904    

 

David Mitchell

Jim,

I remember those CYC nights at Jet Stadium. I think we did several of those as a group from OLP. Tickets were something like fifty cents, I think. I always wanted to see someone like Johhny Powers hit one through that hole and win the $100,000. But Johnny Powers was always hitting them to the far right. He stood there in the batter's box with his wide-open stance - almost litteraly facing at the pitcher instead of sideways, trying to pull every pitch to that short right field fence, which if I recall correctly was only about 305 feet from home plate.

We got to see a lot of big league talent come through that stadium on their way up to the "bigs". I saw Richie (Dick) Allen hit 4 home runs against us while he played for the Little Rock "Travelers" on his way up to Philadelphia. And I mentioned "Boog" Powell - ther must have been many others lost to my memory. We had Don Clendennon, Al McBean, and Gene Alley (later to become the Yankees GM), And long tall Tom Cheney who spent a short time in Columbus and later struck out a record 21 batters in a nine inning major league game with the Washington Senators. And there was as I mentioed above, Willie Stragell - perhaps the most notable "Jet" of all.

I beleive the stadium was first named "Red Bird Stadium" - home of the "Red Birds" - farm club to the  St. Louis Cardinals. It did not become Jet Stadium until later when they became the Pittsburgh AAA affiliate. The name came from the detachment of Air Force Jets stationed at Lockbourne AFB sometime in the fifties or sixties. I remember hearing former catcher (and long time announcer) Joe Garagiola describing his renting a basement room with a family in Columbus, while he played for the Red Birds in his early years before reaching the Majors.

I also recall hundreds of days and nights listening to the voice of the Jets, Joe Hill, broadcasting the games on WMNI. A neighbor of ours was a program manager up at WMNI and he sort of burst my bubble when he explained to me that Joe was not atually at those "away" games, but rather, he was reading a tele-type feed as it came over the wire. He read the results as if he were announcing a live game and actually played a feint background recording of some crowd noise. And he could raise and lower the volume to add a sense of reality. Listening to the "away" games was never the same for me after that. At times you could hear the clicking of the tele-type in the background. 

Joe had a long-time reationship with many of the regular fans at Jet stadium. Does anyone remember his frequent mention of a lady named "Aunt Mary Longmier, who would boil a big pot of spaghetti for fans as they tailgated in the parking lot. And when someone hit a deep home run out into the parking lot, Joe would yell "Spaghetti water Mary"

(kinda reminds me of hearing Jimmy Crum yell "Katie bar the door" )

For those of you who may have been away from Columbus for a long time, the City has a very nice "new" (maybe 12 years now) minor league baseball stadium, located right off downtown in the  "Arena District" just a block or two from the "Blue Jackets" ice arena - almsot exactly where the "Old Pen" (penitentiary) used to be. I have wanted to go to a "Clippers" game for some time now at "Huntngton Park". It seats about 10,000 and I beleive it also has some open seating in outfiled "picknick" areas. And they are no longer a Yankee franchise. They are now the Cleveland Indians AAA affilliate. 


01/26/21 12:41 PM #8905    

 

David Mitchell

This baseball talk just brought another intriguing "Jets" memory to mind. 

I remember a Jets game or two with the Havanna "Sugar Kings". But sometime in mid season of 1960, they suddenly became the New Jersey "Jerseys". It was a mystery to me (at th time), and I did not get a full understaading until years later.

The Sugar Kings had an "International League" AAA franchise from about 1956 to this time in July of 1960. Castro had taken over Cuba and there was talk of promising the Cubans a major league franchise in the future.

But the situation was fragile politically, and on the night of a game in July of 1960, the Rochester Red Birds were in Havanna for a series. It was a date of celebration for the "revolution" and a special short exhibition game was to preceed the real game. The first 2-inning game featured all political and military figures and the crowd began celebrating wildly. Gunfire erupted both inside and outside the stadium. A falling bullet landed on the Red Birds manager and one other player. The manager immedaitely pulled his team off the field and the team flew home to Rochester the next day.  The next thing I knew was that the Cuban team had left Cuba, and they had reconstituted tthe franchise to be called the "Jersey City Jerseys". I recall at the time I was sort of confused, but finally got a better understanding years later.

(NOTE: I think it was not long after that we had a new classmate at OLP - about 5th grade.  Her name was Elena Colunga, one of the most interesting and inspiring people I have ever met. I wish I could go back and visit with her now about those early days moving to America and living with the Seidel family.) 

 

Oh, by the way, the pitcher for the "Government team" in that short exibition game was the guy on the left;

 


01/26/21 12:53 PM #8906    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

No Mike your mind isn't fuzzy, it just needs to be processed through a wringer once and a while.

DISCLAIMER:   I don't think they would have allowed me near East North Broadway.  

And NO, although I visited East North Broadway a bit, I grew up in the (former) St. Christopher parish.  Lived on Virginia Avenue by the Kingswood School until 1964 when we moved into a place in Grandview near Summit Chase.  We were indirectly Neighbors of John Glen.

Joe


01/26/21 02:36 PM #8907    

 

Michael McLeod

Ok.

I think we did have a McCarthy family on our block.

But obviously they were the high-end McCarthy family.

Not the felonious, drunken, institutionalized, shanty-Irish McCarthy family. 


01/26/21 09:37 PM #8908    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Dear Mr. McLeod,

Before you start teaching and writing you should have spent at least a few years as a Reporter.  They are the ones who dig for the facts before doing a story.  Instead you just made assumptions.

I am Ukranian.  My Mother's parents were both born in the Ukranine and came to the states approximately 100 years ago (ERGO 50% Ukranian).  My Mother was born in Detroit, MI; as were I and my two brothers.

My Father was born in Canada, the Son of an Irish-American (New York City) Father (my grandfather) and an English-Canadian Mother.  Ergo again, I am 25% English and 25% a a former stumbling drunk low class person.

So there you scullywag.

Your's Truly,

Joe

P.S.  If we can't have fun what good is it being locked up. 

 


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