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11/20/16 01:19 PM #428    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

It is quiz time again so put your books, computers, smart phones, etc away.  An no asking or copying Fred's answers.

1. What two U.S. President's have a connection to Columbus?

2. Why?

3. Where in Columbus?

4. What street/road in Columbus goes through at least five name changes, and name them?

5. For the same street/road, what state route number(s) are listed?  Hint, at least two.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving.  Personally I am driving about 650 miles Tuesday (about 13 hours), heading for Portland, OR.

Joe


11/20/16 01:46 PM #429    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Joe,

These questions are phD material! But, here are a few (purely) guesses:
#1. Harding and Grant
#4. High Street
#5. SR 23 and???

I hope you are grading "on the curve" and Fred is exempt!

11/20/16 07:26 PM #430    

 

David Mitchell

 

 Joe,

Here's one possibility.

I think few people are aware that Connecticut Senator Prescott Bush, father and grandfather to two presidents was born in Columbus and went to school at Indianola grade school for maybe a year before moving to the east coast.

He has an incredibly intersting history;

a) He was a director of a New Your City bank who profited from their involvement with some of Hitler's early financiers (who I beleive, later fell out with Hitler and were themselves financially ruined by the war.). I believe as a result of this, the multi billion dollar class action lawsuit was bought against the Bush family by European Jews atttempting to recover their family's stolen fortunes  - and had to be kept from the American public during George Jr's bid for re-election.

b) He was accused of being involved with a group of wealthy and powerful American's (Heinz Ketchup among them) in a 1933 plot to assassinate Franklin Roosevelt and install a fascist government to pull us out of the Great Depression.

c) And, odd as this may sound, he was later part of a group of Senators who tried to presure Eisenhower to sign a Civil rights bill in the 1950's.

d) And also voted to censure Senator Joe McCarthy. 

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P.s.   Enjoy Portland. I have a Grandson there - neat city


11/20/16 07:35 PM #431    

 

David Mitchell

I'll go for highway names for $200, Alex

Main / Broad Street (that's 2)

- US Route 40

- The LIncoln Highway

- and (I give up????)

 

(p.s. Joe, you knew Jim and I would bite on this kind of question - darn, busted!)


11/20/16 11:32 PM #432    

 

Fred Clem

Samuel P. Bush was grandfather to George H. W. Bush and great-grandtather to George W. Bush.  His mansion was on Roxbury Road, opposite Our Lady of Victory Church (our 50th reunion venue).  It was converted into a nursing home (St. Raphael's) and now is the site of a condo complex.  .

A Samuel P. Bush biography from Wiki:

Bush was born in Brick Church, Orange, New Jersey,[1] the son of Harriet Eleanor (Fay) and the Rev. James Smith Bush, an Episcopal priest at Grace Church in Orange. He grew up in New JerseySan Francisco, and Staten Island, but spent the majority of his adult life in Columbus.   

 Bush was the first president of the and cofounder of the Columbus Academy. Additionally, he was the co-founder of the Scioto Country Club, a golf club in Columbus, Ohio.[4]

 


11/20/16 11:39 PM #433    

 

Fred Clem

Joe,

I'm not sure if this is the answer you were seeking, but US Route 33, running NW to SE, goes by Riverside Dr., Dublin Rd., Long St., Third St., Main St and College Ave.  In some areas the same roadbed carries US 40 and OH 3.  In the oppoisite direction, it also uses Fourth St. and Spring St.

This doen't really concern Columbus but it does Ohio.  In the 1920 presidential election both major party candidates were from Ohio and were in the  newspaper business.  Warren Harding owned the Marion Star while James Cox owned the Dayton Daily News.  

From the "270 To Win" website:

The Democrats nominated newspaper publisher and Governor James M. Cox; in turn the Republicans chose Senator Warren G. Harding, another Ohio newspaper publisher. Cox launched an energetic campaign against Senator Harding, and did all he could to defeat him. To help his campaign, he chose future president Franklin D. Roosevelt as his running mate. Harding virtually ignored Cox and essentially campaigned against Wilson, calling for a return to "normalcy"; with an almost 4-to-1 spending advantage, he won a landslide victory. Harding's victory remains the largest popular-vote percentage margin (60.3% to 34.1%) in Presidential elections after the victory of James Monroe in the election of 1820.

Dave,

US 40 is referred to as "The National Road".  The "The Lincoln Highway" is US 30 that runs through Canton, Mansfield, Upper Sandusky and several others.

Fred


11/21/16 12:43 PM #434    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

 

As usual Fred was able to provide MOST of the answers; BUT he aparently didn't read the directions which stated no books, computers, or smart phones.  His first response stated "from Wiki:".  I always expected better from you Fred, Dave maybe not, but you.

Anyways the answers, which Fred proved excellent on earning a little extra credit are below.

1.  George W. Bush, the 43rd President and George H.W. Bush, the 41st President.

2.  "W's" Grandfather, and "H.W.'s Father was Senator Prescott Bush of Massachusetts, where "H.W." was born.  Prescott Bush was the son of Samuel P. Bush.  Samuel P. Bush became the President of Buckeye Steel Castings, South Parsons Ave. later name change to Columbus Castings.  He is buried in Greenlawn Cemetary.

3.  Correct Fred.  Samuel P. Bush's home was located on Roxbury byOur Lady of Victory.  It was still an impressive sight when I was in High School.

4.  As usual Fred got most of this answer ( Fred you are hereby excluded from further responses).  However, as a short advertyising plug, whenever I return to Columbus one of the things I always do is stop at the Franklin County Engineers offices (just past the old main post office and the Columbus Utitlties offices) and pick-up one of the FREE Franklin County maps that are available 24/7 in a covered box outside the building.  I check to see if Morse Road has finally received the go ahead to connect with Bethel Road.  I've only been waiting over fifty years so it's bound to happen any day.  Anyway, they also have dropped a few names of streets over the years, but here goes for my answer.  Form High Street go West on (1) Spring St.; By the Old Pennitentiary, Niel Avenue the Road changed it's name until about the Olentangy River to (2) something like Riverview Rd.  (check the old street signs; past the Olentangy it is called (3) Dublin Rd.; after it passes fifth Avenue it was called (4) Scioto River Rd., From some where North of Lane Ave. it is now known as (5) Riverside Drive. 

5  With the above route you will see that it remains Rt. 33 until Route 33 veers west and joins Rt. 161.  From that point North into Delaware County Riverside Drive is known as Rt. 257 as it goes past the Zoo.

Aside.  Rt. 23 comes from Southern Ohio in an almost straight line; and follows South High Street North to Livingston Avenue.  It then turns East to Fourth before turning North to Hudson Where it turns West to Indianola.  At Indianola it follows North until Morse Road where it turns West until meeting High Street and finally resuming course North on High Street. 

Route 40 heads East along Broad Street until Drexel Avenue where it turns South.  At Main Street it turns East again and continues east across Ohio.  I wiil not get into Rt 33 East or Rt 62; at least fornow.

Joe


11/21/16 01:45 PM #435    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

I almost forgot.  If any of you are looking to move or visit our Northern neighbor, I own about two hundred acres of Northern Ontario land that I coul rent cheap (but only for classmates).  It is located approximately half way between Toronto and Hudson Bay.   There is terrifc fishing, hunting, and hiding throughout the area.  Plus, for those adventurous types, the land can be mined for silver and Cobalt. 

Joe


11/21/16 01:47 PM #436    

 

David Mitchell

Damn, I liked it better when we were back on the Whetstone "Casting Ponds" thing.

 

p.s. Joe,

Your 70's photo(?) in your profile is magnificent!   I hope the outfit included a wide white belt and white loafers, otherwise it's a complete fail. 


11/21/16 02:51 PM #437    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Dave M.

Don't knock poor Joe for his classic '70's leisure suit look. I did not give my collection of them to Goodwill until many years after they went out of style. If you ever travel through Colorado Springs and see someone wearing one, you will know from where it came.

To all IC grads:

My sister just forwarded an email to me which she received from Marilynne (Maple) Poirier (Class of '64), sister of our own Francene. Immaculate Conception Parish is celebrating it's Centenniel Anniversary this Sunday, 27 Nov 2016. An article will be published in this week's Catholic Times. I will have to look that one up on the internet to read it.


11/21/16 04:41 PM #438    

 

Fred Clem

Joe,

It will take a vote of the people to connect Morse Road directly with Bethel Road.  A construction project was okayed by city council and county commissioners back in the 60's.  However, Jerry Miller (owner of Jerry's Drive In) initiated a public referendum on the issue.  The new road would have taken out some homes and trailers west of High.  He sold the people that it was unfair of government to displace those residents.  He spent quite a bit of money on ads pushing his agenda.  I don't think the new road would have taken his business but would have limited it's access.  The issue passed and it prohibits the construction of a direct connector to this day.  It can only be reversed by another referendum.

Fred


11/21/16 04:46 PM #439    

 

Fred Clem

Joe,

The copy/paste from Wikipedia were just used to prove correctness.  I've known the Samuel P. Bush story long before I ever possessed any computers.

Fred


11/21/16 10:17 PM #440    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Just so you guys know that your conversations are still being spied on....I thought that I would chime in!!  I must admit that you all had my head spinning with route #s, intersections, street names, etc. The only thing that I know about the roads in Columbus is, that even with a navigation system in my car, I still get lost!!  Heck up until 15 years ago, I thought "north" was whatever direction I was facing!!!!  LOL.  Anyway, Joe's offer of Canadian rental property kind of went along with how I was amusing myself tonight as I take a break from the political news.  I happened to have been watching "Luxury Tiny Homes" on HGTV.  Note that I did not say I was watching the "Tiny House Hunters" HGTV show as my tastes tend to drift toward homes with a "LUXURY" adjective before them!  Also, If I am going to dream, I prefer to dream in luxury..ba, ha, ha, ha, ha.  Anyway, should I ever win the lottery or discover a hidden inheritance, I would consider buying a "luxury tiny home" and take Joe up on his offer of renting some of his property in Canada to place my tiny house (but first I would have to check on where Lena Dunham, Cher, Al Sharpton, Whoopi, Barbra Streisand and Miley were planning to move to, post election, as I am thinking that even Canada would not prove to be big enough for all of us!!  LOL).  The only other thing I would need in this fantasy scenario would be a driver for my "tiny" home....I can not even back out of my driveway without knocking off my rear view mirror!!  That. is. all........and for Tim Lavelle....you now know how little is my "two cents worth".  :)       


11/21/16 11:02 PM #441    

 

Joseph D. McCarthy

Fred,

My attempt at humor, as it usually does, fell badly.  I apologize.  I don't believe you need a computer; your mind is better than a "Cray" supercomputer.  To show remorse, as soon as I can get that jacket back from Dave, I'm going to offer it as a present to you. 

Now I'm heaaded for bed so that I can get up in six hours (4:00A.M. or for you military characters 0400Hrs.) and drive to Portland, OR for Thanksgiving.  I  hope to arrive about 5:00 P.M. (1700Hrs.).

Joe

 


11/22/16 08:19 AM #442    

 

Joseph Donahue

 


11/22/16 01:58 PM #443    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Joe D.

Thanks for sharing that fantastic image of a giraffe silhouetted against the moon (super moon?). Unless you are on a safari in Kenya I will assume that you did not take the picture but whoever did - kudos! That technique is known as "Contre-jour" - against the day (light) - and is often used for silhouetting objects such as animals, bare trees, old barns, etc. against a setting sun or rising moon. This results in stunning and occasionally mysterious moods to the photographs.

11/22/16 03:01 PM #444    

 

Joseph Donahue

Thanks Jim. No not in Africa now but have been there twice. It is the super moon.  I received this from a friend who lives in Botswana, a beautiful country by the way. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family and to all our fellow alums. 


11/22/16 03:35 PM #445    

 

David Mitchell

Wow! Mary Margaret! You're really out there.

Of all the topics that I would have guessed you'd finally jump in on, "Tiny Houses" is actually NOT the one I'd have thought. I have had a fascination with them for years and got to build a few with my Army buddy's homebuilding company when I first moved down here to Bluffton - though nothing near as small as your truck mounted, portable models. 

Joe, 

I'm sure Doctor Jim can concur that research has shown that although liesure suits were "proven" to be helpful for arthritis and laughing sickness, they did have a probable link to dimentia and even cancer. Cases of pre-mature sex have also been recorded. 

Fred,

I meant to say "National Road" instead of Lincoln Highway - can I get some point back on that one Joe?

 

 

 


11/22/16 03:55 PM #446    

 

David Mitchell

I think my last entry should have read "Pre-marital". Yea. Yea, that's it!

But you can read it any way you prefer. I just know it must be right cause I read it on the internet.


11/24/16 12:22 PM #447    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

Happy Thanksgiving to the Message Forum--contributors AND readers!!

Clare


11/24/16 12:28 PM #448    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

PS  The IC celebration Mass is at 4 pm on Sunday. 

Clare


11/25/16 09:05 PM #449    

 

Fred Clem

There is a connection betwen date we celebrate Thanksgiving and Columbus.  Originally it was set as the last Thursday of November.  In years when there were 5 Thursdays it made for a shorter Christmas season.  At the request of Fred Lazarus Jr. (president of the local department store), Franklin Roosevelt changed it, by exceutive order in 1939, to the fourth Thursday (it was made official by Congress two years later).  Under the old method Thanksgiving could occur November 24-30, with the change November 22-28.

From Wiki:

Fred Lazarus Jr. exerted enormous financial, social, and political clout; he is credited with convincing President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1939 to move Thanksgiving a week earlier, to the fourth Thursday in November instead of the last Thursday in November, in order to make the Christmas shopping season longer in those years on which November had 5 Thursdays.

I hope everyone had a great holiday!


11/27/16 01:17 PM #450    

 

Mary Anne McMahon (Herbst)

 

Here is a late notice --

Today, Sunday, Nov. 27, Immaculate Conception is having their Centennial Celebration.  There is a 4:00 mass followed by a reception in Marion Hall next to church.  They are welcoming former parishioners and IC school alumni including teachers and students.  Hope to see some of you there.

 

Mary Anne McMahon Herbst


11/30/16 12:09 AM #451    

 

David Mitchell

Okay, Bonnie Jonas dared me to tell this one. I think this was junior year???  And I hope this is the way she remebered it - jump in here girl if I miss anything. 

(Just bear in mind that I don't think anyone could ever accuse Bonnie of being "understated" in her style and manor. And although restricted to a uniform, she could come up with some pretty exotic accesssories - like two huge plastic butterfly hair pins that stuck out from her head a few inches.) 

So, our class play was to be "Pride and Predjudice". One day sister Constantious caught me by my locker and pushed me up against it with her finger in my chest. In a very demanding voice she said, "I didn't see you out for the class play tryouts?".

"N, n, no sister, you didn't".  Then with an angry glare right up in my grill, "And why not young man?"  "Well sister, uh, I wasn't intending to go out for the play in the first place." "Young man, I'll see you at tomorrow's play tryouts, or else!  Do you understand me?"   "Y, Yesss Sister!"

So I show up and it was almost immediately apparrent that she had me already cast in the role of Mr. Darcy. And she also made it clear that I didn't have much choice in the matter, so I sheepishly gave in and accepted my sentence. Meanwhile I think she had already come to the same conclusion about Bonnie as Elizabeth Bennet, the oldest of the five daughters, and my romantic opposite. (Am I right here Bonnie?)

Problem:  There is a scene where I was going to have to kiss Elizabeth (Bonnie), and I didn't want to kiss Elizabeth (or Bonnie) and the entire cast and stage crew soon realized it. Furthermore, Sister explained that we could not actually do a real romantic kiss on the lips (Certainly not between two "Catholic school children" in front of a live audience. No, Sir-ee! ) So Sister comes up with this awkward technique where we have to stand at a precise angle to the audience and wrap our heads around each other just so, and it would look like a kiss to the audience. 

So we get to the first time in practice where the actual kiss is coming, and Sister is going into great detail about how we needed to position ourselves in this odd manuever, and everybody was watching with great anticipation. Just as we got our necks close to the "position" I got a nasty poke in the eye from one of Bonnie's big plastic butterflies and went sprawling on the stage in real pain. Everybody burst out laughing! Even Sister was covering her mouth to hide her laughter. I was in severe pain and not at all amused.  

Somehow we got through this and went on to do three nights. BTW, on the third night (with my Mom and Dad in the fourth or fifith row) I completely went blank on one of my lines. Standing front stage all alone and Sister behind the nearest curtain whipsering my lines - and I still could'nt get it!  Finally she literally yells out my line and I repeated it and went on. But the humiliation doesn't end there.

At the time, Bonnie was a patient of my dad's and a regular visitor to his office (where I worked part time in back-room clerical tasks). To Dad's partners and nurses, I was practiaclly their adopted child, and they also adored Bonnie. When they got wind of the story they started creating their own rumor of my romance with "Madame Butterfly". Every time I'd go into Dad's office they would ask, "how's Madame Butterfly?" It must have taken a year to live that down. To this day I cannot think of Bonnie without a chuckle - and that damned Butterfly in my eye.

--- Spoken with a snobby English accent - "I caant abide the countryside, One moves in such, mmm, limited company".  Love ya Bon  (er, I mean, Miss Elizabeth)


11/30/16 11:12 AM #452    

 

Bonnie Jonas (Jonas-Boggioni)

OK, Dave! (BTW, I was the 2nd child...Jane, Mikel Groezinger, was the eldest!)  I had forgotten about the butterfly in the eye, bit, but I DO know why you blanked out on the line on the last night...You were concentrating on The Kiss!"  You were upset when Sister's ruse didn't fool ANYBODY in the audience as to our kiss!  (Chuckles galore!)  You had decided that we would do a REAL kiss on the last night; at least you warned me about it!  So, you DID!  And it worked!  No laughter!  I didn't mind that we made it thru'; remember I had a boyfriend!  What is it stage/movie stars say when they have to do a "nude" scene?  Tastefully done?

(The next day, I received a note from her, apologizing for YOUR kiss!)

I didn't realize your Dad's staff were like that...or, at least I don't remember!


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