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01/26/19 04:11 PM #4651    

 

David Mitchell

 

Mike,

The video about the "Green Book" is powerful stuff. I met a man who works at the Savannha airport who's dad still has his copy of teh book from the 1960's. I saw the film twice and would gladly go again.

The video brings up so many feelings from back in our teenage years, watching the Civil Rights Movement from our "lilly white"  neighborhoods, to my first time in the south (basic training in Lousiana, and flight school in Texas), to my present day life in a small southern town. We have come a long way, but then, we have a very long way to go.  

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But I opted to go see "A Star is Born". I really liked it - a lot - but I wonder if I am the only one who had a nervous feeling of foreboding as the film progressed. Great acting, (especially Bradley Cooper) great directing, (also by cooper), some great songs by him and Kady Gaga (what a voice). But tough ending! 

 

Sorry if this is a spoiler alert, but it's been in the theaters for a month now. Still hoping to get to see "If Beale Street Could Talk" but i'ts getting late and only playing miles away now. Lott'a good films out this time of year.


01/26/19 10:34 PM #4652    

 

Kathleen Wintering (Nagy)

 1-26-19 Bonnie, SO GLAD that you are feeling better! Kathy Wintering


01/26/19 10:52 PM #4653    

Timothy Lavelle

Jim,

I cannot imagine, and despite anything I might have said about marijuana here on the forum, I cannot believe or recommend that psychodelics be made available to the general public. 

The Whitehouse, YES, but not the general public.

Surely there was a band, at some point, called The Psychodelics?

Went to see The Favourite today. Don't normally go for period pieces but liked it all but the ending. The actress who played queen Ann should get an award.   


01/26/19 11:13 PM #4654    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Tim,

We agree on that 95% (the exception being the White House comment 🙄)! And, of course, I do not mean to imply that you are or were a psilocybin advocate, but rather to use a little humor to reference something that may be starting up again in Colorado which was a disastrous problem in the '60's.

Since CO was the first state to legalize recreational MJ and Washington was second, I would hope that this does not happen with "magic mushrooms".

So, to all classmates: Tim is not a psychedelic hippie!!!!

Jim

01/26/19 11:23 PM #4655    

 

David Mitchell

Since politics is off limits here, I think that shifting to a group movie critic's column is a good thing. That and Joe's off-beat geography quizzes.

Yeah, I think I like it. This way, we don't have to come up with any of our own original thoughts. 

Golly, maybe that qualifies us to run for office.

But then, that takes us right back to pollitics again.  Oh hell ! 

 


01/27/19 09:31 AM #4656    

 

David Barbour

And I nominate Clare a PRINCESS of th forum for post number 4575.  You just sum it up completely!

Of course Janie remains our exalted QUEEN!

Bless you, Janie


01/27/19 11:32 AM #4657    

 

Michael McLeod

Saw Hamilton a couple nights ago. Wrote a very brief review which I will send along when I get a chance -- I had covered so much ground in the essay I wrote before the show that I figured I'd give readers a break and keep it short.

What's more important to me is how much fun it was to orchestrate the coolest date of my life to go see the show with my significant other. I had been prepping her for the experience for weeks. She is a wonderful listener and is a great sounding board when I am trying to figure out a complicated story - helps to talk about it. I got her the Hamilton soundtrack, fingers crossed that she'd like it as much as I did, which she did -- she began playing obsessively, listening to it on her way to work and back. The music is just wonderful and the lyrics have so many nuances that she was utterly engaged and charmed. For Christmas I bought her the book by Ron Chernow that inspired the musical  -- it's an engaging read but quite long and involved -- so there was that. And then there was the matter of just getting tickets. People down here were going crazy - many were on the phone for hours when tickets were first released, and they sold out quickly. Good tix were being resold for hundreds of dollars. We got to watch that from the sidelines and just enjoy the growing excitement because as a reviewer I'm guaranteed seats. Last week when showtime finally came we had dinner across from Orlando's new, spectacular performing arts center and watched an amazing show from the third row. 

One of the greatest thrills and richest experiences of my life, on many levels. And I know I have said this before but if you are interested in seeing the show just be patient. It will be around for quite some time and in a couple of years you'll be able to see it with the original cast,as they filmed the Broadway production and will eventually release it. 


01/27/19 12:24 PM #4658    

Timothy Lavelle

Whoooooaaaaa there Jimmy!

I did not say I was against magic mushrooms. I would have to say that at one time I fit the description you used...psychodelic hippie...but far far less than some folks that may even be reading here. Those experiences, while entertaining, were too discumbobulating for serious pursuit. 

Time out...Jim, if I can be ruthless, could someone else be ruthfull...are we born with a degree of ruth in us? 

Back to the show...I am against legalization of psychodelics. Humans have proven very vulnerable to so many different substances, whether for pain or mood or mind altering, that I just believe almost all of those substances should be difficult to get. From liquor to laudanum we are a weak species. To me, marijuana is far less harmful than cigarettes and liquor - but I do understand many people fearing it, especially in the hands of the young. 

O, and yes, I've checked all the proper sources this morning and made many follow up calls to verify. Trump still sucks.   


01/27/19 01:14 PM #4659    

 

David Mitchell

"ruth" be known, we are actually getting prepared for the State o' da Union speech to be delivered here in Bluffton next week. (A last minute change thanks to Aunt Nancy). The main topic will be border seguridad. Our borders here in South Cackalatchie are very porous. We have a steady flow of them damn yankees flooding in from the North and thousands of great golf courses to keep them from leaving. It's sad. 

We also have a problem with our southern border as many of those "Ahia" and Michiganders who first went to Florida, found out how much they hate the rain and humidity, and become "halfbacks" - people who move half way back to the home states. (thankfully most of them go back up to Asheville NC)

I am calling for an increase in the budget for more "shrimp and grits", and "low country boil"  to battle this tidal wave before we are overcome by these people. 

The address will be given at our local "Squat and Gobble", so unfortunately, seating will be at a great premium. 

It's very sad.

 

 

 


01/27/19 03:17 PM #4660    

 

Michael McLeod

Interesting and rather selective sense of decorum you have, Dave.

You think of politics as being to racy to bring to the forum, and yet, when it comes to visuals...... 


01/27/19 03:29 PM #4661    

 

David Mitchell

Ahem!   "..... to racy to bring to the forum...."

And what publication do you write a column for?

Sister Constantius is so ashamed of you right now.


01/27/19 03:49 PM #4662    

 

Michael McLeod

sorry. Two racy. And listen mister you obviously don't know SQUAT!


01/27/19 06:47 PM #4663    

 

Frank Ganley

I recieved an email from the eminant Fred Clem concerning lunch or dinner in the opening days of Feb. i replied but i don’t think it went through. I will be in attendance but St Pete works great for me.  On to another subject briefly elusidated by the learned gentleman from mossey creek. I still am a semi mind altered hippie as at times while camping with my degenerate musical partners have indulged in the use of mushrooms and lsd. I can not speak for all but there have been no bad experience in their use. I found everything to be amazingly funny and while playing guitar pure genius was captured. I do not think they should be legalized in the same way weed is but perhaps in some weird RX may be possible. In the past 30 years i have boarded the haapy flight maybe 6 times. Always fun and enjoyable but not for daily weekly monthly use. For some do not go near, for others well maybe. For me i’d say another trip in about 5 years. Till then to semi quote Tom Petty lets roll another joint, though i find that wastefull i prefer a good old fashion bong. 


01/28/19 10:59 AM #4664    

 

Michael McLeod

ok -- this is, I swear, my last "Hamilton" post.

I know I have been bending your ear about it but it truly is one of the most important Broadway shows -- maybe THE most important Broadway show -- of the century, so far.

 

http://www.orlandomagazine.com/Blogs/Metropoly/January-2019/High-Five-for-the-10-Man/


01/28/19 11:05 AM #4665    

 

Sheila McCarthy (Gardner)

Mike: Loved it!


01/28/19 11:35 AM #4666    

 

Mary Margaret Clark (Schultheis)

Frank,

I have a much different perspective regarding the use of any mind-altering substances (chemical or plant) as a means of recreation.  IMHO, recreational use can, for all too many unsuspecting, vulnerable people who have a propensity (whether genetically or emotionally) for addiction, lead to broken relationships and broken lives.  In my extended family, we have experienced, and sadly are continuing to experience, the devastaing effects of substance abuse.  Whether the substance be cigarettes, alcohol, or some current drug of choice, my family has witnessed, first hand, the disastrous effects of addiction.  As you know, Crick lost his battle with small cell lung cancer at the age of 63.  Small cell lung cancer is a cancer directly related to cigarette addiction. His mother battled smoking related cancers of the throat, larynx, and esophagus for 5 years before succumbing to these diseases at age 69.  My brother lost a years long battle with alcohol at age 55 and another brother is presently following the same self-destructive path.  I have too many nieces and nephews who have been, or are currently, addicted to drugs of one kind or another.  These addicitons are taking from them a life of purpose and fulfillment.  One niece has been into the drug/alcohol scene since her late teens, she is now in her early 40's.  Her parents, my brother-in-law and sister-in-law, at age 75, are currently raising her 3 children (ages 3-13).  My daughter and son-in-law have been fostering a sweet, innocent 16 month old boy since last May b/c of his parents' addiction related life-style.  Because of the sheer numbers of family members on both the Clark and Schultheis side, we unfortunately, have a personalized view of the effects of our nation's addiction cirisis.

I have stressed over and over again to my own children/grandchildren/nieces/nephews that...........no one, NO ONE.....purposefully sets out to become addicted.  

I, therefore, respectfully ask that prayers be said today for all who are suffering the effects of their devastating, life-altering addictions, and for all those who love them.

    


01/28/19 11:49 AM #4667    

 

Michael McLeod

Absolutely, MM.

I have a son who is addicted to both cigarettes and pot - so I fully undestand that anything we can do in any way at any level to help our loved ones battle against addictive substances is worth our focus and effort. I also understand that there are medicinal and psychological benefits to pot but if there are healthier ways to care for mind and body I'm in favor of those options first.

I'm so grateful to have kicked the habit - cigarettes - 5 years ago. Being a slave to anything is against our true nature as human beings.


01/28/19 02:19 PM #4668    

 

John Maxwell

I love to play cards. A month ago I read about the upcoming birthday celebration of the State of Michigan. 172 years old. I've lived in this state for 46 of those years. I figured it was time to become better aquainted with where I live. While in college I studied folklore. It provided me with grand tales of explorers, woodsmen, and lakesmen. The state, like many in the USA, was settled by immigrants. There are large German, Polish, Jewish, Dutch, French, Scandinavian, African, Asian, Middleastern settlers. A very large Native American population also resides here. The diversity is not always evident. Like Ohio, it is a predominently conservative state politically save for the Detroit area and Ann Arbor. Leading industries are automobile, technology, chemicals, pharmacy and tourism. Michigan has the longest coastline than any other state. Water water everywhere.
All that being said, I entered the eucher tournament as part of the celebration. I sort of figured the weather would prevent my drive to Lansing, but it was perfect. This was on Saturday the 26th. I arrived at the reccommended 10:00 start time and signed in to the registration table. After looking over the rules. It occurred to me that I should win. Upon arrival I was greeted by a gent in period costume of an Amish decent. (There are photos). After mawing down a piece of birthday cake, and perusing some of the special displays on exhibit for the celebration. One display was a collection of newspaper clippings, one, from the Boston Globe, describing the conundrum concerning the current situation regarding Generalissimo Santa Anna, hero of the Alamo,(the Mexicans won), and his incarceration. Seems he surrendered to the US military, and not the Republic of Texas. The article describes his time in custody like it was a tour of the Chesapeake bay area. There were several other articles. What caught my eye were the extensive vocabularies used in each of the articles. One comment heard was, "Did they really speak that way back then?" It reminded me of when I worked at Greenfield Village in the General Store, when visitors, looking at the women's gloves on display, would invariably comment "my they had small hands in those days." The fact was all that was left over from those times were the stock that didn't sell. Therefore they had only big hands and sold out of regular sized gloves leaving the small ones that fit no one. That reminded me of another, 'they must have been small people comments', when visiting Mission San Jaun Capistrano, in California. It was said in reference to the doorways being only about five feet high. It was done as a form of climate control. It kept the interior at a lower tempurature.

Back to the celebration. Upon signing in I was assigned a number 16, and according to the rules we were to play 2 rounds of dealing and then switch tables and partners. Scoring was posted after each round. Imagine my surprise after the ninth round I was in the lead by 1 point and my last partner was in second. Barring a disaster, I was a shoo in. Finnaly I can scratch, Eucher Champion of the state of Michigan, off my bucket list. My loot was a jigsaw puzzle of the rail system of Michigan. Coaster set of Michigan historic trout stamps, assorted fridge magnets and stickers, a note book, all contained in an attractive snake grass basket.

In case any of you were courious about what I did this past weekend. Today I had my colonoscopy. Not nearly as interesting. But happily uneventful. I attribute that to my mother taking psilocybin while pregnant with me.
If you want to see photos check the facebook site. I still haven't the knowledge to post them to this site. Sorry bout that.

01/28/19 05:58 PM #4669    

 

Frank Ganley

MM  i whole heartedly agree with almost evrrythinh you posted. Kids should not use anything stronger than soda pop. I wrote coke first but that would have caused a firestorm. As Ray Wiley Hubbard penned in his song Conversation with the devil, he really didn’t like cocaine he was addicted to the smell. Cigs are the worse to the worst, harder to quit than heroin. How do i know? After a spinal fussion i was perscribed oxycontin synthetic heroin. I used them sparingly, 1 every three or 4 days. After a range that i was teaching at closed i was home resuming and calling course and ranges where i might hang my hat. After a week or so i thought i had the worst flu in the world. During this time i didn’t take any oxy. After several days of incredible suffering i took an oxy. Within minutes i was cured. My doctor was almost in tears as he had no idea with that little of use could someone get hooked. It two more weeks and it was over. Cigs the cravings never leave you. Yes there must be better ways to combat pain, the best i’ve found is pot. Not to point of being stoned to the bone but A nice mellow buzz is just enough to combat it. It may not work for you but it does for me. It has been proven that it helps children with epileptic seizures but that is under strict medical supervision. I’d rather smoke pot than get bombed on booze, no hangover or the need for a little hair of the dog. As far as shrooms and acid no child should come near them and anyone who gives them, sells them to minors should be locked up tighter than a clam and never let out again


01/28/19 07:29 PM #4670    

 

Joseph Donahue

 

Michael, I totally agree with you as it relates to Hamilton. Each time I have seen it I learn something new.  If Hamilton is indeed the play of this century, I would like to nominate RENT for the 20th century’s best. 

Last nights live presentation reminded me of the lessons I learned when the musical opened in 1996.  All of the main characters except Mark have AIDS. Each deal with it in their own way but all decided to live in spite of the ultimate outcome but what struck me was the interaction of the characters. Jonathan Larson, the playwright, tragically died hours before opening night in 1996 but he left a story based both on his own life and the opera La Boheme.  While his undiagnosed disease was Marfans Syndrome and not AIDS he treated the characters with the respect that all humans deserve.  They loved and supported each other. They struggled with everyday life yet they never lost the unconditional love for each other. If we could only follow their lead...

“Will you light my candle”


01/28/19 08:12 PM #4671    

 

David Mitchell

Wow, this is good stuff! Both the heavy and the light.

Mary Margaret, 

I am awed by your gut wrenching testimony to the sad part of this issue. I had no idea your family had been through so much. I have been so lucky to have been spared many really close relations sufffering such difficulties - except for two near and dear ones from tobacco.  Thank God.

I did see a couple of problem cases with "Mary Jane" in my unit in Vietnam, but fortunatley, they were dealth with. One troubling case was one of our pilots. Imagine him flying a helicopter on weed!  It didn't last long - he was taken off flight status. Problem was (if I understand this right) his reactions were slowed. Not a very safe condition in a helicopter cockpit. And when we learned of it, we were so stressed about what he had been putting his observers through. Frightening!

The other was a case of alcohol. We had a fair amount of that, (including yours truly on two memorable nights out of my 18 months) but one extreme case, who actually flew my wing. There were days when I was not sure Paul was even back there behind me. And we were pretty sure his observers were flying him to and from the "AO" (Area of Operations) - after him taking off and then taking the stick during the mission (we taught them straight and level flying and a crude landing - in case of emergency). Ther was a morning when he was in the big truck  - a "duece and a half" with about a four foot high floor above ground, that drove us all out to the flight line, and as the truck pulled up to each aircraft for us to jump down, Paul simply walked erectly to the back of the truck and kept walking over the edge, falling to his face on the hard gravel below. That's a distance from his head to the ground of about 10 feet! He groaned, got back up, and climbed into his ship and took off with the rest of the flight. 

To this day, the three heavy drinkers that I still am in touch with are off of alcohol completely. All three met women who gave them the choice of the bottle or their marriage. It worked. They are lucky guys.

The interesting thing to me has always been the difference in perceptability each of these things have. There is some slight but noticeable difference in weed smokers, and usually a much more noticeable difference in alcohol users. But the insidous thing about tobacco is that it doesn't show any change in behavior or perception. So it just sneaks up on the person after 20+ years and makes their (premature) death as horrible a form of torture as we can imagine. My mother had a full life (81), but smoked like a chimney, and her last 5 days were pretty painful to watch. Then my first wife died of lung cancer (at 65, and still cute as a button, after having quit for 25 years!) while living in my oldest daughter's home. I flew out to be with her for the last week of her cheerful, loving life. What a nighmare to witness!

I do lean toward the move to legalize forms of MJ for medicinal purposes (including dogs), and oddly, we have a very conservtive Republican State Senator, leading the fight in Columbia for medical legalization in South Carolina. A very uphill battle in this state, especially in his own party.

My best argument for the "gateway" question is from my older cousin Jim Mitchell (Watterson '63) who ran a drug re-hab clinic just north of OSU campus for years, and he claimed they witnessed an alarmingly high rate of that problem.

I still believe there is some combination of physiological pre-condition, plus some sort of spiritual lack of self assurance that both prey on some of us, and not others. And I still believe Love, Acceptance, and Forgiveness can be very effective "medicine". 

 


01/28/19 08:35 PM #4672    

 

David Mitchell

I wanted to comment on Mike and Jack's posts but out of repsect, not including them in the "addiction" topic.

 

First of all Mike,

Fur a guy who can't spell very gud, you sure kin rite! 

Great column! And you win the prize for most puns in one short article.

I have been hoping to see this play for a couple years and it will probably be a few more. We do have an exellent live theater playhouse out on Hilton Head, but it takes time for plays to get down to our level.

I took some friends there years ago to see" Les Mis" (for my 5th time!) and it was a fantastic quality production. I still have a thing for Les Mis. It was my intent to have my two pre-teen daughters experience something different than Madonna and Cindy Lauper. I took them and my parents to the glorious Ohio Theater down beside the Satehouse and it had just the impression I had hoped for. They were about 11 and 14 and they were dumbstruck by the music!  It remains a sort of family sacred "thing".

Phantom and Rent are also big deals to my girls - now grown women.

 

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Jack,

I love the way you sneak a good story in on us through the side door. I can't say that this tops your (all-time best) post about falling off a roof, but this was darn close. But I have a question for you - on that last part, whats not to like about a good ole fashioned colonoscopy? I mean, heck, you get to put on one of those fancy shmansy hospital robes and climb up on that examination table on all fours and then,,,,,,,,,,,,,yeeeeeee-iiiiiiiiiiikes! 

 

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And finally, Would somebody please call Homeland Security!!

Who on earth let Joe back in?  Have you been back behind the curtain listening all this time? I figured you had gone for a long winter's nap and woke up thinking maybe Tom Brady was still playing QB for the Patriots. Ha! 


01/28/19 11:58 PM #4673    

 

Michael McLeod

Joe - I thought I was lucky. You getting to see H multiple times is luckier. 


01/29/19 02:29 PM #4674    

 

Mark Schweickart

Mike -- Loved the Hamilton review. Well done.

Hamilton inspired me to write this parody awhile ago. Instead of a nemesis like Aaron Burr, picture an old-time, seen-it-all, Broadway producer having just been subjected to a pitch for a new show by this upstart character named Lin-Manuel Miranda.

I ask you –
How does a poor son of a Puerto Rican
Non-English-speaking immigrant
Become the tongue-twisting manipulator,
Originator of a language for the stage,
That he prayed could be played,
A language that would slay every critic,
Earn every rave,
Made every ticket something to be craved
By every person who would pay,
Who couldn't wait for that day
It would be their turn to say
Hoo, ha, ha! – Who is this guy anyway?

And this kid said, “My name is Lin-Manuel Miranda and
There are a million things that I have planned
A thousand songs I haven’t sung
A thousand awards I haven’t won
But just you wait
Just you wait”

I said, “A musical, Broadway show,
Is not a show, we all know it
Can’t be a hit, don’t forget
Unless of course,
Stephen Sondheim wrote it.
New musicals always flop
Land with a thud, with a plop
Never make it to the top....”

And Lin-Manuel shouted “Stop!
It’s time to hear a hip-hop beat
A new rhythm from the streets
A new rhyming pattern man
We’ve had enough of your iambs,
Pentameter is not our scan.

“So listen up as I proclaim
Once again my name
A name bound for fame
My name is Lin-Manuel Miranda and
There are a million things that I have planned
Can’t you see what could be
See the possibility
Do I have to yell it, spell it out for you
Make the chorus swell for you
It’s L-I-N-M-A-N-U-E-L, man
That’s right, let me teach you how to spell, man
M-I-R-A-N-D-A, man”

“Hold on, Lin, don’t get carried away, son
We're talking the Great White Way, a Broadway play, son.
Spare me the Sesame Street spelling lessons
And I am guessin’ that’s not even the question.
It's not about how to spell your name.
Get back to me with something less insane."

So back he came with a show called In the Heights,
And I said, “Oh Lin go fly a kite,”
No one wants to hear all that noise
Squawking talking girls and boys
All trying to sing and talk at once
It makes me feel like I’ve been punched.
You call that music, I call that painful”

He said, “Sir, must you be so disdainful?”

“Listen Lin, listen to me, I appreciate your sincerity
But as for your ability, I give it only a maybe.
This is a tough town, and, Lin, you’re still a baby.
Get off your hip-hop hobby horse.
It might play in your Heights, of course,
But if you ever want to see your name in lights
Write me something really right.
I’m not saying it has to be lily white.
Maybe something wicked, maybe something funny,
Where the price of the ticket, is worth all that money.

And Lin said, ‘Mr. Producer please,
Why here’s an idea that’ll  knock you to your knees
It’s about our Founding Fathers (and this is really fun)
Mostly it is about just one – Alexander Hamilton.”

I said, “Hamilton? Shmamilton? Founding Fathers? Washington?
Jefferson? It’s been done.
Remember Seventeen Seventy-Six
A musical that could not be fixed.
I’m not going down that road again
And Hamilton? Who remembers him?”

He turned, walking to the door
Said, “I will bother you no more.
My name is Lin-Manuel Miranda and
I’m sorry you didn’t like my plan.
But I predict and somehow I know
This will be a Broadway show.
He’s more than a face on a ten dollar bill.
He’s the face of our nation and remember him I will.

But before I leave let me say what I believe:
That in New York you can launch a new play,
In New York you can launch a new play,
In New York I can launch a new play,
And I'll cal it Hamilton!”

****

His name was Lin-Manuel Miranda and
There are a million things that he has planned
And a thousand songs that he hasn’t sung
And a thousand awards that he hasn’t won
But oh my god,  just you wait,
Just you wait.
And I’m the damn fool that shot him down!


01/29/19 08:30 PM #4675    

 

David Mitchell

Wow Mark,

I'm speechless!

Double Wow!

 

 

Could I have just a sip of whatever tea you are drinking? 


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