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10/02/17 08:03 AM #1941    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

Tim, I was able to find out that she has a small inoperable tumor found during a colonoscopy and currently  going through some very rough chemo treatments . I do have an address but don't know if it is current. I talked to Janie last night and she will be sending it out after confirming that is correct. Such sweet things you said about her. She is one of my favorites. I actually introduced she and Gary!

 

 

 


10/02/17 09:31 AM #1942    

 

Bonnie Jonas (Jonas-Boggioni)

I don't want to speak out of turn, Mary Ann & Tim...but I will give a bit of an up-date on Linda!  She was not feeling well enough to go to last Saturday's OSU Game Watch party. but Gary said she has good times mostly during the day, but tires easily @ night.  She WAS at the party for the UNLV game...and she and Guido spoke encouraging words for each other; they call each other "their heroes!" 

I can tell you that your prayers lift them both!  Positive attitudes are what keep them going; gives them strength! 

Also want to let you know that Guido's doc has given him a week of "reprieve" as we head to Louisville for our oldest grandson's wedding this week!  (Otherwise, we would have been at the 10-day mark when his blood count typically crashes.  Although we would have been in Louisville and the Humana home, we DIDN'T want to worry about lab work and injections!) 

Additionally, we will become "instant Great Grandparents!"  His intended already has 4 yr old and 6 yr old daughters!  I'm too "young" for this!


10/02/17 09:36 AM #1943    

 

David Mitchell

All I can think of this morning is this -- John 16, vs 33

"I have told you this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world."

 

 

And I thank God for the gift of all of our friendships. 

 

And I am sad. 


10/02/17 09:51 AM #1944    

 

David Mitchell

Bonnie,

Glad to hear God is sending a little sunshine into your life. You deserve it. 


10/02/17 01:42 PM #1945    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

Hi Bonnie, glad to hear you have seen Linda. Please send her my love. I did leave her a message. I have her address if classmates would like to send her a card or a cheery note. The address is 7033 Coverdale Drive, Plano, Texas 75024.

 


10/02/17 01:45 PM #1946    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

One more person to put on the prayer list and that is Jody Ryan, class of 67 who is being treated for breast cancer. For anyone who doesn’t know, she is the wife of Kevin Ryan.


10/02/17 02:41 PM #1947    

 

Deborah Alexander (Rogers)

Mary Ann,

Thank you for posting the information about Linda Baer Schell and Jody Ryan.  When we woke up this morning to hear the terrible news coming out of Las Vegas I knew it was going to be a bad day.  But to hear about two of our friends suffering these illnesses is so disheartening.  But if I know these two spunky girls, they will kick butt and defeat these illnesses! That is my prayer.  We've all felt so connected because of this forum that I think bad news about one of our friends hits close to home.  Distance may separate us, but I truly believe we are all in this together, and find strength from our group, even though we may not have seen each other in years.  Maybe it's the age we are getting to be, but I think we realize how lucky we all are to still be here!  I'm so thankful to have this way to be in touch with everyone.  Love, prayers  and good thoughts going out to Linda and Jody!

 


10/02/17 03:22 PM #1948    

 

David Mitchell

Thanks Mary Ann. So sorry to hear about both ladies. This will nudge me into getting back in touch with Kevin - a connection that went silent a few years back. 

This is a day when we might cringe and cower, and curse the darkness.

Or we can be the light for someone living in sorrow or darkness. This would be a great day to tell someone you love them. Or to call and old friend and remind them how much you miss them. Or maybe just some random act of kindness. 

Ditto what Debbie said - and for the umpteenth time - thanks Janie -  you started this.

And God bless you for it.


10/03/17 11:44 AM #1949    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

Bonnie, may I please have your address, I would like to send Guido a card.

 


10/03/17 01:55 PM #1950    

Timothy Lavelle

Opinion: sometimes I am "like, way bothered dude" that we cannot bitch out loud here about what bothers us.

I know bitching isn't polite and it might bother some milder mannered classmates. You know, I don't really give a flying fig about that.  

Your answer to the above might be "LaVelle, you bitch about everything and call it 'telling the truth. You believe too much in what you think and have a propensity to preach". Yeah, well, you're right, so let me get on with that...

In our country we have no organization that I can think of, that is the go-to group for people who believe that the NRA is doing our country a grave injustice in the name of democracy. If you know of a group that s willing to go to the mats against the NRA then please let me know.

Do you honestly think that the founding fathers...and brothers and sisters...would have wanted us to all to be able to carry Thompson machine guns with 30 round clips...in the off chance we had to defend the farm against Commies or kill an especially large, armour plated, extremely angry deer?

Machine guns, simply...and I damn well mean "simply"...were against federal law when we were kids. It was just a "simple" fact...based on another fact..."They're really dangerous." I don't recall feeling deprived, do you? The pose, by some in our society, that we can't be truly free unless we can run around with guns on our hips, is so damn wrong that we all know it. We know it and we do fanny albert - nothing - about it. We bemoan the fact that any poitician who stands against the NRA gets drubbed in the polls or railed against as a Commy in attack ads. Then, too often, we vote for the other guy because we want to back a winner.  

Somebody please name the group I can send a buck to, to begin to stem the tide of "We've always been on the side of good therefore everything we do must be good". What BS. What far flung crap that is. Let's admit our mistakes and find the guts to go another way. Let's stop just giving in.

Got a soapbox here if you want to borrow it....

 


10/03/17 02:15 PM #1951    

 

Jeanine Eilers (Decker)

I'm with you, Tim.  Is anyone or any group willing to stand for common sense and common decency when it comes to firearms?  We own guns because my husband hunts but he would vote in a minute for regulations to restrict the purchase of firearms based on licensing and background checks.


10/03/17 07:01 PM #1952    

 

Frank Ganley

Oh I know I will hear or should I say read about how terrible a person I am as I whole heartily support our 2nd amendment. I believe that our founding fathers had the incredible foresight to imagine what the future of our country held in store for our nation. That said,there are certainly some Things in our society that need to be controlled such as the availability to ammo. Limiting the size of clips is senseless. With the amount of tools and power tools rotors,saws planers, drill presses etc I own I am able to make ,contruct,any of these things. I have the tools not the know how but...... to ban a silencer of as certain size as some senators want. What would that do? You can not seize the guns out there. you can make all the laws strictermore punishment but using Chicago as an example , they have the strictest most stringent gun laws in the USA but lead the nation in crimes involving guns as well as number 1 in murder. Explain. The cunundrium. Guns are here. Is there a use for these assault rifle , yes, sorry. I went hunting on a friends for feral hogs. They are dangerous,destructive and down right mean. I was going to use my 45 cal muzzle loader and my friend informed me that I would wound the animal and it would escape into the Florida palmetto woods. Impenetrable. Now the animal dies but suffers. Yes the desired effect but we eat them. But with one shot I dropped the beast. Not bragging just pointing out their use. I am an NRA member , i dont agree with every thing they stand for but i agree that if you are qualified to buy you may. Qualified ah the question and problem. One problem with NRA IS THEIR LOBBY EFFORTS. Get rid of that . If the NRA went away would that help? Not as much as if the American Cival Liberty went away. But that's another discussion. In conclusion , people kill people , guns don't unless in the hands of people. Make it hard to get the bullets. If you have to go to Dicks sporting goods store there are aisles and aisles of bullets shot gun shells etc out in the open where a kid can shoplift a box of any kind he needs for his GUN.
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10/03/17 09:10 PM #1953    

Timothy Lavelle

Frank,

You know I love you like a brother. It makes very little sense for me to act the role as a debater with you since I graduated second last in our class only beating a plastic plant one of the Sisters of Divine Bingo kept and taught to speak latin (or so she firmly believed). No, no debater here and we all know from your posts that you are the master debater.

Point: Anyone who would go hunting wild boar with a muzzle loading (so, single shot) 45 caliber rifle, really needs to keep the old life insurance paid up.

That said...

Imagine those of us, who are not members of the National Rifle Association. We know that Americans are not the most violent people on earth but the statistics show that we kill each other in truly insane numbers when compared to....well EVERYWHERE IN THE EFFING WORLD FRANKLIN, except for maybe cartel areas of Mexico.

Imagine we go to the internet and type "Anti NRA Organizations" or "Anti Gun Organizations". Instead of a link to an actual "Anti NRA" organization we are lead to lengthy lists of sites attached to the NRA (or Gun Owners Association) giving long lists of people and corporations who have come out for gun control - so that good NRA people can know who to despise and boycott.

Imagine we look for an organization that frightens open minded politicians with regard to gun control. Only the NRA buddy.

Can we compare how hard it is to kill a man with a broom, a shoe, a doorknob, a lightning bolt, a knife, words, a club....anything...compared to a mettalic machine made to "make a hole" at 2000 feet per second?So if there were less effective machines lying around, instead of guns, would it be likely that Chicago would be known for the most broom attacks and doorknob headaches instead of little children shot by those amazingly effective hole makers while playing on street corners there?

You give a buncha funny dressing men from 200 years ago - bless them - more credit for knowledge of today's times and pressures than all of us who are alive today. Do I need to tell you the truth about Santa F. Claus also?

You gun guys are afraid that by enacting laws restricting gun sales and ownership, someone will eventuallty come to pry that hot gun from your cold dead hands. So wrong. So paranoid. Dude, all we want is for there to be less availability of killing machines for people, in general, who don't need them and especially for people who have shown disregard for other's lives. We want there to be no machine effing guns. Your reasoning that an automatic weapon is the only humane way to kill a boar...Jesus, Frank...what the hell did the boar ever do to you to command that type a "Judge Frank Ganley, the only law on this end of the rifle". Dude, you are honest, I know that. What you did was to go out and have some fun. What the boar did - right where he lives every day - was to go out and die so you could have some exotic meat. I love you buddy but your logic leaves me open mouthed. Dumbfounded.  

I am not "correct" in anything. So while I have very little room to talk, I seem to take up much room on the forum. I have a 9mm S&W and a 22 Winchester rifle and a couple of pellet guns. I like shooting at targets. But  there are so many ways to have fun in this world that do not have to lead to mass amounts of automatic killing machines so easily accessible to wrong hands, young hands, mentally unstable hands.

Hey, you wouldn't want that guy down the street, the one you really dislike, to have an Abrahams tank and drive it around your neighborhood would you? Maybe he needs a National Tank Association to preserve his right to "blow some $hit up".

Love you Frank. Sure hope to hell no one ever shoots you or someone you love.

 

 


10/03/17 11:03 PM #1954    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Our class, like the good people of this nation, have varied opinions on many complex issues that affect our country. And the arguments on both sides of those issues are well stated by many of you. You should have all been on the BWHS debate team!

Somehow, I suspect that nobody's opinions will be significantly changed as we have all formed our minds on such matters over many decades. Also I doubt that anyone under 68 or 69 reads this forum - or even knows it exists. This is why I again suggest we avoid political topics on the Forum. Gun control is once more becoming a hot political topic.

I must admit that I have shot many, many animals, sometimes using burst mode and silent operation with a high capicity memory chip loaded in - my camera.

Be safe,
Jim

10/03/17 11:14 PM #1955    

 

David Mitchell

I may need to offer an apology here. I may have started this fire. It appears what I started in a private email to about 10 of you yestrday lit a spark that has blown up on the Forum. So I feel sort of honor bound to weigh in.

On Monday morning had had a troubling reaction, especially to the audio portion of "the video" from Las Vegas, and spoke about it to a short list of classmates. I had realized it was the "crackling" sound of an automatic weapon that got to me - somehting that I developed a very negative a visceral reaction to many years ago. It caused me some emotional issues for about an hour after I watched it.

(and it has happened before - especially right after 911, when the first person I saw for the problem was John Jackson's oldest sister Liz (Doctor Ellizabeth Jackson, MD), who was at the time, Director of the Mental Health Dept. at the Columbus VA clinic. She was the last perosn there late one Friday, and it was my good fortune that she was still in her office)

What I got back today were some very well thought out answers from a few - namely Tim, Keith, John Jackson, and Mike Mcleod. I deliberately aimed (oops, poor choice of words) sent to a list of somewhat mixed political views. I can take it from both sides, and have always enjoyed a good political or religious argument. And I stated my difficulties with certain NRA policies, and my shock at learning that it is legal to buy a machine gun in Nevada (or any state) - really, really shocked!

Now for all of you assuming I am on the "right" on this isssue, you would be mistaken. Furthermore I am one of those who (like the majority of the NRA's own membership, in a survey a few years ago) are on the side of stricter gun controls - and more efficient background checks. 

I look at statistics like the murder rate in Canada and England where private ownership of guns is almost non-existant, and see the rates of homicide by firearm at a tiny fraction of ours. Conversly, I look at Honduras and/or Guatamala, countries with outrageously high murder rates (one of which - I forget which) - bans assault rifles, but allows the sale of 9mm pistols - a favorite of criminal gangs and political death squad members, which roam the streets at will in those countries.

Another interesting phenomenon is the rise of the "open carry" clubs in Texas (and elsewhere), where groups of 30 or so young guys gather in public at a local Chipoltle, posing for pictures inside the restaurant displaying their Mac-10's and M-16's and C.A.R.15's - fully loaded with live ammo clips!  The argument is that they are "excercising their constitutional rights". But to me, it appears more like a frightening form of granstanding - more like the little boy who has climbed to the top of the playgrround slide and yells out "Mommy, look at me." Just imagine sitting there eating with your grandchildren, and these guys show up in their shorts and hoodies to "excercise their rights!" (or the photos of women in the checkout line at Wallmart with M-16's slung over their shoulders - or the guy in Burkenstocks and baseball cap looking though the frozen food at Target with his AK-47 slung from his shouldder?) Have they taken leave of their senses?

Sorry, it's late, and I am rambling now but a few more thougths. 

While I support the 2nd amendment (as it is written and amended), I do not support the likes a one Wayne LaPierre, head of NRA, who I beleive to be an out and out liar. And I question all of you who say the 2nd Ammmednment is "sacred" and cannot be "tampered with". Exuse me, but since the constitution was first written, we have "tampered" with it 27 times - including giving women and African slaves the right to vote.

Even in the latest Supreme Court "liberalization" of the amendment in 2008, (District of Columbia vs Heller), ultra conservative Justice Scalia said something to this effect in his opinion - "this does not mean every Tom, Dick, and Harry walking around on the street."

Also one could recall the fact that when this was first written, they were using single shot, muzzle-loading guns, and had never concieved of a "multi-shot" firearm of any kind. Wow, isn't that grounds for some degreee of re-thinking the argument right there?

What seems ot me to be one of the driving forces behind this thinking is not our right of self defense, but more like, "My right to have it my way - and damn the common good."

 

But as I told Keith today in a private email, we need not fear, the argument will probably rise up again and last for weeks or a few months. But rest ssured, Mr. LaPierrre's little lobbyist minions will have by then passed out enough "gifts" to their friends in Congress, and the noise will quickly be stilled. Brave men those stout hearted members of Congress!   (May God help us!)

p.s.

"Guns don't kill people - people do."  That is partly correct. But imagine how difficult it would be for me to kill you by pointing my finger at you and saying "Bang, youre dead."


10/03/17 11:32 PM #1956    

 

David Mitchell

Sorry, but I just cannot resist.

As a corrolary to my last statement above, what about;

"Riding mowers don't break people's legs, riders do."

 

(I know, I know, I have absolutely no shame.) 


10/04/17 01:59 AM #1957    

Timothy Lavelle

Jim, Dave...god I hate it when you guys go all "adult" on me! A real pair of rant killers.

Jim you actually had me completely about the animals and I was muttering "Not Hamilton, please, Burr maybe, but not Hamilton". Great trick. Dave, correct - the whole thing is your fault.

The damn lawn mower is haunted!


10/04/17 08:48 AM #1958    

 

David Mitchell

Tim, I wish you would stop sugar coating everything and tell us how you really feel. LOL

 

Me thinks it's time to get back to sending our good wishes to Linda, Jodie, and Bonnie. 


10/04/17 10:50 AM #1959    

 

Frank Ganley

Tim, I agree with most of your argument. Feral hogs are a menace in Florida. With all of our neighborhoods all devided by "green areas, mainly scrub palms and thickets, which leaves plenty of these boars to roam and breed at will. They were left here to run wild and breed so explorers always had food available. Since then they have become very irritable over the years. They are so bad there is no season on them. Millions. They must be culled. I don't hunt deer ,though I love venison no rabbits very tasty , I'd rather go to t the supermarket to eat. Mainly my use of firearms is target practice. I am a boy scout, as if a marine always a marine, I am always prepared.
As I stated before you can not recall the guns but you can control the bullets. Ah then you say how about those that make their own,no hard to include materials such as the projectilethe casing primers etc. But those that do that are those that compete and use tins of ammo. I truly believe that if the country once again embraces God welcomes God back into our daily life and forget about politically correct we will return to a peaceful God loving country again

10/04/17 12:37 PM #1960    

 

Janie Albright (Blank)

Tom and Frank I thought I saw some middle ground in your back and forth yesterday. I think you touched on this Frank. https://www.facebook.com/martha.michael.337/posts/10154995130084013

I hope that this link works since it’s from Facebook. 

Speaking of that, what does everyone think about using another tab a little farther down called “User Forum” rather than this Message Forum for special topics , i.e., Vietnam, Gun Control and anything else you can think of that can be of special interest to some and not at all to others. You can follow or not follow. You can add new topics. That can leave the message board for messages or short lived topics like high school memories, growing up, who is ill, etc.  A topic might start here and then move to the User Forum. A fairly controversial topic might do well there. I think we may be losing a few readers when we get too heated so this seems like a good solution so all can still be heard.  Dave, start a Vietnam User Forum; Tim, how about Gun Control? I’ve seen so many good posts but they seem to get lost at times if they aren’t posted right away.  This would take care of that by having dedicated topics. Give it a try and tell me if I need to do anything to make it work. 

Love heart all of you and want to make sure our website works for everyone. 

 

 


10/04/17 01:35 PM #1961    

 

Mary Ann Nolan (Thomas)

Brilliant idea Janie.


10/04/17 02:15 PM #1962    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Janie,

I second Mary Ann's statement.

10/04/17 02:43 PM #1963    

 

David Mitchell

Excellent idea, but I think Tim should do the lawn mowing page.


10/04/17 04:48 PM #1964    

 

Deborah Alexander (Rogers)

I'm with you, Tim. I thought Sandy Hook would do it, but here we are again. 


10/04/17 06:25 PM #1965    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

Gee, I don't know about adding another part to visit. I skip over parts I don't want to read on this forum quite easily now. There's no count of how many hits a person's musings get or who got unfriended or blocked or any of that nonsense. Being part of this forum has given me insight into the many facets of some of our friends' lives and life choices. I am a better person for it. Yes. Some of the turns this discussion page has taken are deeper than 50th reunion banter but, hey, we've come this far together. I think we can handle the occasional provocations that make us look in the mirror and examine our hearts.  So I'm saying no. Keep the comments coming right here in the open (for the 20 or so of us who are out here to mull over!!). 

Love to all.  

Clare

PS  Tim, you are my hero again. 


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